Re: [ANN] Translating your Rev stacks into web apps

2010-07-12 Thread Pierre Sahores
Dear Rodeo Transfert Dream Team, Just waiting for its public announcement to license it ;-) Kind Regards, Pierre Le 12 juil. 2010 à 06:38, Jerry Daniels a écrit : Rodeo Transfer will not be included in the release version of Rodeo, but become a separate, premium product with a real price

Re: [ANN] Translating your Rev stacks into web apps

2010-07-12 Thread David C.
The Window is Closing This leaves open a window of opportunity for those of you reading this post who have not adopted Rodeo. You can obtain a license for $89 USD, but only for a couple more weeks. The price of Rodeo will rise as its capabilities increase--and this will happen quicker

Re: [ANN] Translating your Rev stacks into web apps

2010-07-12 Thread Jerry Daniels
David, In order to keep the pace up, we've had to focus on one platform for the desktop client/editor--the Mac. Our original target for products created by Rodeo was the iPad. However... We're discovering that we are really a webkit product...this desktop thing that forces people to choose

Re: [ANN] Translating your Rev stacks into web apps

2010-07-12 Thread David C.
However... We're discovering that we are really a webkit product... From the outside looking in, I tend to agree... ...and that's pretty much what prompted my question. ;) Best regards, David C. ___ use-revolution mailing list

Re: ANN] Translating your Rev stacks into web apps

2010-07-12 Thread James Hurley
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Re: ANN] Translating your Rev stacks into web apps

2010-07-12 Thread Andrew Kluthe
All of this and more @ http://rodeoapps.com/what-is-rodeo -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Re-ANN-Translating-your-Rev-stacks-into-web-apps-tp2286222p2286227.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com

Re: ANN] Translating your Rev stacks into web apps

2010-07-12 Thread Jerry Daniels
Hey, Jim! Rodeo development and deployment requires no plugin of any sort now or in the future. Rodeo Transfer at the moment translates Rev UI objects into HTML/CSS. Rodeo web apps are HTML/CSS/Javascript. Rodeo tables are not plain text fields. The look and behave very much like Rev

Re: ANN] Translating your Rev stacks into web apps

2010-07-12 Thread David Bovill
development and deployment requires no plugin of any sort now or in the future. Rodeo Transfer at the moment translates Rev UI objects into HTML/CSS. Rodeo web apps are HTML/CSS/Javascript. Rodeo tables are not plain text fields. The look and behave very much like Rev datagrids. They are single

Re: ANN] Translating your Rev stacks into web apps

2010-07-12 Thread Andrew Kluthe
://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Re-ANN-Translating-your-Rev-stacks-into-web-apps-tp2286222p2286383.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit

Re: ANN] Translating your Rev stacks into web apps

2010-07-12 Thread Jerry Daniels
: Hey, Jim! Rodeo development and deployment requires no plugin of any sort now or in the future. Rodeo Transfer at the moment translates Rev UI objects into HTML/CSS. Rodeo web apps are HTML/CSS/Javascript. Rodeo tables are not plain text fields. The look and behave very much like Rev

Re: ANN] Translating your Rev stacks into web apps

2010-07-12 Thread Jerry Daniels
? -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Re-ANN-Translating-your-Rev-stacks-into-web-apps-tp2286222p2286383.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing

Re: ANN] Translating your Rev stacks into web apps

2010-07-12 Thread David Bovill
OK - I was not thinking of anything detailed, but in principle I would think that a good number of people on this list researching how to get into web app development and leverage their Revolution experience would research these two alternatives, both have been covered in discussions on this list.

Re: ANN] Translating your Rev stacks into web apps

2010-07-12 Thread Jim Lambert
I'm amazed how quickly Rodeo is evolving. Andrew K. wrote: Now that the available object set is quite large I am going to have to follow through on my rodeo purchase. Jump on it! It's good for all of us to encourage this kind of development. Jim

Re: ANN] Translating your Rev stacks into web apps

2010-07-12 Thread Andrew Kluthe
with the features you can leverage on the handheld devices? -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Re-ANN-Translating-your-Rev-stacks-into-web-apps-tp2286222p2286809.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com

Re: ANN] Translating your Rev stacks into web apps

2010-07-12 Thread Jerry Daniels
on the handheld devices? -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Re-ANN-Translating-your-Rev-stacks-into-web-apps-tp2286222p2286809.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com

Re: ANN] Translating your Rev stacks into web apps

2010-07-12 Thread Andrew Kluthe
One more question! I don't own RunRev for Mac. Can I make stacks in windows and transfer them from Mac? -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Re-ANN-Translating-your-Rev-stacks-into-web-apps-tp2286222p2286944.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing

Re: ANN] Translating your Rev stacks into web apps

2010-07-12 Thread Jerry Daniels
in windows and transfer them from Mac? -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Re-ANN-Translating-your-Rev-stacks-into-web-apps-tp2286222p2286944.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com

[ANN] Translating your Rev stacks into web apps

2010-07-11 Thread Jerry Daniels
in Tejas: It's time to saddle up, partner. Videos: Rodeo Transfer: http://rodeoapps.com/rodeo-transfer-rev-stacks-become-web-apps Rodeo v1.3: http://rodeoapps.com/rodeo-v13-available-with-tables-check-boxes-r Summit Keynotes: http://rodeoapps.com/tag/keynote Best, Jerry Daniels Follow the Rodeo

AltBrowser 2.0 Extension and Web 2.0 Web Apps?

2006-03-17 Thread John Patten
Hi all And Chip... I had a question regarding Chip's AltBrowser 2.0 external... Is it possible to use the external with web sites such as Writely (www.writely.com)? I attempted using the demo browser in the new 2.0 version and was not successful. On the Windows version, it would kill Rev, and

Re: AltBrowser 2.0 Extension and Web 2.0 Web Apps?

2006-03-17 Thread chris bohnert
Hi John, I just tried this with writely and the altbrowser demo and was able to login and create a new document on both the mac an pc. I'm using XP/OS 10.4.5 in rev 2.6.1. I launched the demo..clicked launch browser on the first card and then went directly to http://www.writely.com;.

Re: AltBrowser 2.0 Extension and Web 2.0 Web Apps?

2006-03-17 Thread Chipp Walters
Hi John, It appears you've already received the answer, directly from Chris, the developer of the altBrowser external. Feel free to contact us directly with any questions about altBrowser at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Chipp John Patten wrote: Hi all And Chip... I had a question regarding Chip's

Re: AltBrowser 2.0 Extension and Web 2.0 Web Apps?

2006-03-17 Thread John Patten
that theory. :-) I haven't tried in 2.7 again, I was just happy that it worked! Thanks! --- -- Message: 9 Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 12:23:29 -0600 From: chris bohnert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: AltBrowser 2.0 Extension and Web 2.0 Web

Re: AltBrowser 2.0 Extension and Web 2.0 Web Apps?

2006-03-17 Thread Chipp Walters
John, You can right your own handlers to manage popup windows, that's what the callback is for. Again, you can reach us directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] best, Chipp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url

Web apps

2005-11-23 Thread Frank R
Has the company ever spoken about any plans for using this - extremely interesting - development platform for web app development? Frank ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe,

Re: Web apps

2005-11-23 Thread Pierre Sahores
AFAIK, the RunRev Team marketing and sales focus is mainly set on the DreamCard and Rev Studio products lines. On the other hand, the RunRev consulting and service departement can provide, in case of special needs, professional grade development and solutions about evry thing that can be

Re: Rev vs. AJAX...Or Web-Aware Apps vs. Web Apps

2005-10-18 Thread Pierre Sahores
Topics: 3. Re: Rev vs. AJAX...Or Web-Aware Apps vs. Web Apps (Trevor DeVore) 4. RE: Rev vs. AJAX...Or Web-Aware Apps vs. Web Apps (MisterX) 9. Re: Rev vs. AJAX...Or Web-Aware Apps vs. Web Apps (Mark Wieder) 10. Re: Rev vs. AJAX...Or Web-Aware Apps vs. Web Apps (Chipp Walters) 11. Re

Re: Rev vs. AJAX...Or Web-Aware Apps vs. Web Apps

2005-10-15 Thread Judy Perry
On Fri, 14 Oct 2005, Richard Gaskin wrote: The languages we bring to the table can always be replaced. But can our experience/talents/creativity? Okay, Richard, you trolled me back into the gym. I honestly was going to try to just sit back and let everybody think that EITHER as a

Re: Rev vs. AJAX...Or Web-Aware Apps vs. Web Apps

2005-10-15 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently, Judy Perry wrote: The more that we actively discourage 'thinking outside of the box' (or even thinking at all), the more we damn ourselves to the present and its limitations. IMO, the use of templates/themes is not an attempt to discourage thinking outside the box. It is an

Re: Rev vs. AJAX...Or Web-Aware Apps vs. Web Apps

2005-10-15 Thread Todd Geist
Inspiring! On 10/15/05 12:22 AM, Judy Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The more that we actively discourage 'thinking outside of the box' (or even thinking at all), the more we damn ourselves to the present and its limitations. And then Scott countered with, On 10/15/05 1:17 AM, Scott Rossi

Re: Rev vs. AJAX...Or Web-Aware Apps vs. Web Apps

2005-10-15 Thread Jim Ault
On 10/15/05 1:17 AM, Scott Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IMO, the use of templates/themes is not an attempt to discourage thinking outside the box. It is an attempt to illuminate the fact that there is, in fact, a box present, which has certain properties and rules, and one must learn the

RE: Rev vs. AJAX...Or Web-Aware Apps vs. Web Apps

2005-10-15 Thread MisterX
15, 2005 6:32 PM To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: Rev vs. AJAX...Or Web-Aware Apps vs. Web Apps On 10/15/05 1:17 AM, Scott Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IMO, the use of templates/themes is not an attempt to discourage thinking outside the box. It is an attempt to illuminate

Re: Rev vs. AJAX...Or Web-Aware Apps vs. Web Apps

2005-10-15 Thread Judy Perry
And, I would agree IF it were demonstrable that this is what actually happens. I just don't think it does. I don't see it happening among either faculty OR students. On a bit of a bummer midway through grading midterm exams. Sorry. :-( Judy On Sat, 15 Oct 2005, Scott Rossi wrote: IMO, the

Re: Rev vs. AJAX...Or Web-Aware Apps vs. Web Apps

2005-10-15 Thread Mark Wieder
Judy- Saturday, October 15, 2005, 5:36:56 PM, you wrote: And, I would agree IF it were demonstrable that this is what actually happens. I just don't think it does. I don't see it happening among either faculty OR students. My observation is that Scott is one of those rare folks who are

Re: Rev vs. AJAX...Or Web-Aware Apps vs. Web Apps

2005-10-15 Thread Judy Perry
Mark, I don't doubt Scott's sincerity at all. Nor do I doubt Chipp's or Dan's or ... That's part of my argument: They're not the people likely to be seduced by the persuasive technology. I'm in agreement with Chipp re: the 'copying the Masters' philosophy: except that Microsoft doesn't begin

Re: Rev vs. AJAX...Or Web-Aware Apps vs. Web Apps

2005-10-14 Thread Mark Wieder
Jacque- Thursday, October 13, 2005, 10:13:10 PM, you wrote: I use this: http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ Works very well and leaves me in control. *Very* interesting. Thanks for the pointer. And that way you won't miss http://www.ninjai.com/ -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Rev vs. AJAX...Or Web-Aware Apps vs. Web Apps

2005-10-14 Thread Chipp Walters
for cross- platform software. Standalone apps are still: * generally faster than Web apps * not dependent upon a reasonably fast Internet connection * not dependent on a server out there somewhere being up and running and not overloaded * better looking with better user experiences (at least

Re: Rev vs. AJAX...Or Web-Aware Apps vs. Web Apps

2005-10-14 Thread xbury . cs
- platform software. Standalone apps are still: * generally faster than Web apps * not dependent upon a reasonably fast Internet connection * not dependent on a server out there somewhere being up and running and not overloaded * better looking with better user experiences (at least

Re: Rev vs. AJAX...Or Web-Aware Apps vs. Web Apps

2005-10-14 Thread Chipp Walters
Chipp Walters wrote: Dan and I have been going around on this for awhile now privately. Frankly, I'm not a real big AJAX fan. In fact, I think it's not much more than the current flavor of the month. Wow, that sounds a bit harsh:-) ! There are a few AJAX apps which seem pretty cool. I in

Re: Rev vs. AJAX...Or Web-Aware Apps vs. Web Apps

2005-10-14 Thread Dan Shafer
Yeah, good additional points, Trevor. Dan On Oct 13, 2005, at 10:22 PM, Trevor DeVore wrote: On Oct 13, 2005, at 1:54 PM, Dan Shafer wrote: * generally faster than Web apps * not dependent upon a reasonably fast Internet connection * not dependent on a server out there somewhere being up

Re: Rev vs. AJAX...Or Web-Aware Apps vs. Web Apps

2005-10-14 Thread Richard Gaskin
For myself, I don't see this as a vs as much as an also. When I need to put an app inside of a browser window, I use whatever the project requires to do that, and old-school tech like AJAX often gets the job done well. But for everything that lives outside of a browser window, for me it's

Re: Rev vs. AJAX...Or Web-Aware Apps vs. Web Apps

2005-10-14 Thread Alex Shaw
version of rev quite stable have been happily using it the last few days for a project, although i still get weird coloured syntax highlighting issues, more so that ye ol metacard :) regards alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Today's Topics: 3. Re: Rev vs. AJAX...Or Web-Aware Apps vs. Web Apps

Re: Rev vs. AJAX...Or Web-Aware Apps vs. Web Apps

2005-10-14 Thread xbury . cs
even a toy language like blitzmax is exciting because it offers arcade-quality possibilties in the interface department (in slick opengl 3d etc) is cross-platform, early days yet but possible to do server/cgi with talk to sqlite .. but it's ultimately nostalgic the forum participants

Re: Rev vs. AJAX...Or Web-Aware Apps vs. Web Apps

2005-10-14 Thread xbury . cs
how great this ajax is! Previously i almost ranted on some stuff where ajax was not secure and overid some stuff i set in Firefox... I decided to keep my day positive... but it comes back!!! http://it.slashdot.org/it/05/10/14/126233.shtml?tid=172tid=95tid=220 cheers Xavier

Re: Rev vs. AJAX...Or Web-Aware Apps vs. Web Apps

2005-10-14 Thread Roger . E . Eller
Dan- Thursday, October 13, 2005, 1:54:38 PM, you wrote: Another client for whom I've written three relatively large apps in Rev has been advised by his new CEO to require me to rewrite them in some more standard language or tool/environment. He may not listen to the advice but he has

Re: Rev vs. AJAX...Or Web-Aware Apps vs. Web Apps

2005-10-14 Thread Richard Gaskin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wouldn't it be great if Rev Developers had a registry of talent/capabilities? Like this?: http://support.runrev.com/resources/consultants.php -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal ___ Rev tips, tutorials

Re: Rev vs. AJAX...Or Web-Aware Apps vs. Web Apps

2005-10-14 Thread Roger . E . Eller
Wouldn't it be great if Rev Developers had a registry of talent/capabilities? Like this?: http://support.runrev.com/resources/consultants.php -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal blush Yeah... Like that. /blush ;-p Roger Eller [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Rev vs. AJAX...Or Web-Aware Apps vs. Web Apps

2005-10-14 Thread david bovill
- but Rev is just much faster and cheaper to develop in - plus of course On 13 Oct 2005, at 22:54, Dan Shafer wrote: * generally faster than Web apps * not dependent upon a reasonably fast Internet connection * not dependent on a server out there somewhere being up and running

Re: Rev vs. AJAX...Or Web-Aware Apps vs. Web Apps

2005-10-14 Thread david bovill
What would be useful here would be to have an open source freelance and company developer and resource - much more than just a few individuals and companies listed on a web site and email list if you need it fixed and Dan gets stomped well these guys can pick up the pieces and send

Fwd: Rev vs. AJAX...Or Web-Aware Apps vs. Web Apps

2005-10-14 Thread Pierre Sahores
octobre 2005 22:42:13 HAEC À : How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com, Alex Shaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc : Pierre Sahores [EMAIL PROTECTED] Objet : Rép : Rev vs. AJAX...Or Web-Aware Apps vs. Web Apps Hi Alex, Perhaps would this link help, with all my apologies about my froggy's

Rev vs. AJAX...Or Web-Aware Apps vs. Web Apps

2005-10-13 Thread Dan Shafer
to doing Web apps in AJAX or some other open tool (my current favorite being Laszlo - URL: http://www.laszlosystems.com and http://www.openlaszlo.org) is that *all* of the issues of cross- platform delivery just go away. Yeah, there are still some minor inconveniences with cross-browser issues

Re: Rev vs. AJAX...Or Web-Aware Apps vs. Web Apps

2005-10-13 Thread J. Landman Gay
Dan Shafer wrote: Laszlo spits out SWF files that play in any Flash player from 5.0 forward, and because of the Flash technology are guaranteed to work in any browser (since over 99% of them have Flash plug-ins already installed). Well, except for those of us who remove Flash because

Re: Rev vs. AJAX...Or Web-Aware Apps vs. Web Apps

2005-10-13 Thread Dan Shafer
I guess I've gotten to a place where I ignore (as in don't even see) those animated ads any more. They don't bother me enough to miss the Flash content that i do like. But your point is well taken as well. Flash isn't 100% ubiquitous. Neither, for that matter, is JavaScript. On Oct 13,

Re: Rev vs. AJAX...Or Web-Aware Apps vs. Web Apps

2005-10-13 Thread Mark Wieder
Dan- Thursday, October 13, 2005, 1:54:38 PM, you wrote: Another client for whom I've written three relatively large apps in Rev has been advised by his new CEO to require me to rewrite them in some more standard language or tool/environment. He may not listen to the advice but he has raised

Re: Rev vs. AJAX...Or Web-Aware Apps vs. Web Apps

2005-10-13 Thread Dan Shafer
I agree 100%. Unless, of course, I'm the sole source. Dan On Oct 13, 2005, at 4:17 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Back when I was doing hardware stuff, our one strict rule was never design a circuit with single-source parts. If your sole supplier gets stomped on by a dinosaur you're SOL.

Re: Rev vs. AJAX...Or Web-Aware Apps vs. Web Apps

2005-10-13 Thread J. Landman Gay
Dan Shafer wrote: I guess I've gotten to a place where I ignore (as in don't even see) those animated ads any more. They don't bother me enough to miss the Flash content that i do like. I use this: http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ Works very well and leaves me in control. -- Jacqueline

Re: Rev vs. AJAX...Or Web-Aware Apps vs. Web Apps

2005-10-13 Thread Trevor DeVore
On Oct 13, 2005, at 1:54 PM, Dan Shafer wrote: * generally faster than Web apps * not dependent upon a reasonably fast Internet connection * not dependent on a server out there somewhere being up and running and not overloaded * better looking with better user experiences (at least

RE: Rev vs. AJAX...Or Web-Aware Apps vs. Web Apps

2005-10-13 Thread MisterX
On Behalf Of Dan Shafer I agree 100%. Unless, of course, I'm the sole source. Dan On Oct 13, 2005, at 4:17 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Back when I was doing hardware stuff, our one strict rule was never design a circuit with single-source parts. If your sole supplier gets stomped