in defense of Pascal

2009-07-10 Thread Sadhunathan Nadesan
> Here in Plovdiv they teach High School kids PASCAL, which is, unless you > are some sort of retro-geek, a major turn-off. I shall, very shortly, > become a "pusher" for RR, and be trotting round the school giving demos > of just what can be done. Alternate point of view: I love Pascal. Just

Re: in defense of Pascal

2009-07-10 Thread Richmond Mathewson
Yes, I see your point; although I prefer BASIC in this respect. Sadhunathan Nadesan wrote: Here in Plovdiv they teach High School kids PASCAL, which is, unless you are some sort of retro-geek, a major turn-off. I shall, very shortly, become a "pusher" for RR, and be trotting round the school giv

Re: in defense of Pascal

2009-07-10 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
Hi Richmond and other BASIC enthusiasts: In case you've missed it, FutureBasic (originally ZBasic many years ago) is now Freeware and has morphed into a FBtoC version. Downloads available at: Joe Wilkins On Jul 10, 2009, at 7:30 AM, Richmond Mathewson wro

Re: in defense of Pascal

2009-07-10 Thread Andre Garzia
Aum Sadhunthan, I also learned programming with PASCAL, it was Turbo Pascal with it's yellow on black interface that got me into programming. I remember creating dice rollers for my RPG stuff when I was a kid... :D On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 10:29 PM, Sadhunathan Nadesan wrote: > >> Here in Plovdiv

Re: in defense of Pascal

2009-07-10 Thread Bob Sneidar
Well one overlooked advantage to teaching a hard language out of the gate is to weed out the wannabe's. A lot of kids would love to be programmers, until they see how much work and time it takes to get very good at it. Only those gifted ought to go on to be the programmers of the future, an

Re: in defense of Pascal

2009-07-10 Thread Richmond Mathewson
Bob Sneidar wrote: Well one overlooked advantage to teaching a hard language out of the gate is to weed out the wannabe's. Not any longer; in our politically correct, all-inclusive times we have to say thet 'Epsilon semi-morons' "code differently" (err, or like Steve Jobs, we might say "code dif

Re: in defense of Pascal

2009-07-10 Thread Marian Petrides
Oh, yeah, joy and rapture. (NOT) Three steps before you can even use a simple variable--how wonderful. Alas, those of us who were brain- damaged early in life by BASIC don't have the patience for Pascal (or at least I never have!). Quick and (not so) dirty wins the race!! On Jun 25, 2

Re: in defense of Pascal

2009-07-10 Thread Richmond Mathewson
Sadhunathan Nadesan wrote: snip It enforces excellent habits what are those habits? such as strong typing Ha, Ha, I learnt that bashing away on Mum's Olivetti portable (actually its a smashing typewriter) when I did my B.A. which then carry over into other languages. I honestly cannot s