Re: "use-rev" means "using Rev" (was 10,000 other threads)

2005-12-13 Thread Judy Perry
I disagree with this premise (okay, obviously): It is tantamount to group-think. It presents the company with a skewed perception of the reality and totality of its actual as well as potential user base. And it sets up a class-based system of users, with the 'pro's' being higher beings than eve

Re: "use-rev" means "using Rev" (was 10,000 other threads)

2005-12-13 Thread David Burgun
I think the list should be left just as it is. As long as the subject field is clearly marked, it's pretty obvious what is a geeky post and what is a polilical/rant post. Just delete the ones you don't want to read! Or ignore them as I do. It's really not hard to filter this list, I do it all

"use-rev" means "using Rev" (was 10,000 other threads)

2005-12-13 Thread Mathewson
For those who wish to discuss / learn about aspects of RunRev's graphic capabilities there is now a Yahoo Group where one can do exactly that: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RRgraphix/ I have uploaded a 'lollipop' that illustrates some of RR's graphic capabilities come along and join in the fun.

Re: "use-rev" means "using Rev" (was 10,000 other threads)

2005-12-13 Thread Marielle Lange
Part of 'using' (in terms of the use-list) Rev really does encompass why what's there isn't useful. My point of view too. I however also agree with Richard that the list provided to us by the RunRev Ltd company is not necessarily the best place to discuss of this. What we have to be aware o

Re: "use-rev" means "using Rev" (was 10,000 other threads)

2005-12-13 Thread Marielle Lange
Alex Tweedly wrote: rev-use - scripting / Qs and tips - every time I read email ( > 10 a day) rev-biz - once a day, probably at night when I tend to be interested in wider-ranging discussion rev-clever-graphics-tricks - once a day in the morning, but after caffeine, because this is HARD for

Re: "use-rev" means "using Rev" (was 10,000 other threads)

2005-12-12 Thread Stephen Barncard
Judy, that's just not fair. Richard is not Runrev, so who's left to 'receive' the rant/message if it's not personal? Is this a passive/aggressive thing? Richard was trying to solve a congestion problem for this list - and I agree with him that this 'geeky' list does exactly what it is suppos

Re: "use-rev" means "using Rev" (was 10,000 other threads)

2005-12-12 Thread Jim Ault
On 12/11/05 11:27 PM, "Judy Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But, Richard, > Piss off! We don't want to deal with you. > Posting a URL to a spit-in-the-wind forum really does mean all of the > above. > This isn't personal... Really. I don't think that you've offered the URL > in the spirit I

Re: "use-rev" means "using Rev" (was 10,000 other threads)

2005-12-12 Thread Alex Tweedly
Judy Perry wrote: But, Richard, (and, this isn't personal, against you. or anyone else) but: This, in turn, really does mean: Piss off! We don't want to deal with you. Please go shout into the canyons. We don't want to hear from you. We only want to hear how to solve _our_ specific, geeky,

Re: "use-rev" means "using Rev" (was 10,000 other threads)

2005-12-11 Thread Judy Perry
But, Richard, (and, this isn't personal, against you. or anyone else) but: This, in turn, really does mean: Piss off! We don't want to deal with you. Please go shout into the canyons. We don't want to hear from you. We only want to hear how to solve _our_ specific, geeky, programming-only que

Re: "use-rev" means "using Rev" (was 10,000 other threads)

2005-12-11 Thread Richard Gaskin
Andre Garzia wrote: On Dec 11, 2005, at 3:13 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: I am so turned off by the mailing list for RunRev. Maybe it's just me, maybe I'm just getting too old, but that list just seems so full of posturing, politics and some serious personal podiums! Damn! If I weren't

Re: "use-rev" means "using Rev" (was 10,000 other threads)

2005-12-11 Thread Andre Garzia
On Dec 11, 2005, at 3:13 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: I am so turned off by the mailing list for RunRev. Maybe it's just me, maybe I'm just getting too old, but that list just seems so full of posturing, politics and some serious personal podiums! Damn! If I weren't a poet! Richard,

"use-rev" means "using Rev" (was 10,000 other threads)

2005-12-11 Thread Richard Gaskin
Marielle Lange wrote: Beginners often complain on this list or elswhere (see , a mailing list for dreamcard users or beginners in general) In that forum I found a post titled "What a turn off!": I am so turned off by the mailing list for R