Hi,

I guess with "run-as semantics" you mean the run-as elements in web.xml and
ejb-jar.xml ?

I was writing rather from view of Subject.doas() semantics which I tried to
emulate, and from this view I found it odd that the new Subject didn't
become immediately active.

I checked with Weblogic Server 10.3, with
weblogic.security.Security.runAs(subject, new PrivilegedAction()) the new
Subject is immediately active in the Action. I guess this would be the same
with Big Websphere's WSSubject.doAs(), but I cannot check.

So I'd like if https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-4765
would be implemented with the same semantics as WLS or WAS.

Thanks,
Juergen



djencks wrote:
> 
> 
> On Jul 28, 2009, at 4:02 AM, Juergen Weber wrote:
> 
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I found that if the code between pushNextCaller and popCallers still  
>> runs
>> with the previous Subject, i.e.
>>
>> // point A
>> Callers oldCallers = ContextManager.pushNextCaller(subject);
>> // point B
>> System.out.println("getCurrentCaller(): " +
>> ContextManager.getCurrentCaller());
>> System.out.println("Subject.getSubject: " +
>> Subject.getSubject(ContextManager.getCurrentContext()));
>> ContextManager.popCallers(oldCallers);
>>
>> the println() outputs at B give the same Subject as at A, the pushed  
>> subject
>> is not active until the next called ejb. Being used to the doas()  
>> semantics
>> this is kind of surprising...
>>
>> Would it be possible to change the behaviour to get the new Subject
>> immediately active?
> 
> This stuff is definitely weird and confusing, but is there to support  
> run-as semantics.  Run-as is not explained very well in any spec I've  
> seen but after long study I think its supposed to work like this:
> 
> Start with identity A
> 
> call component C1 which is configured with run-as identity B
> 
> when you call C1 or ask isUserInRole() in C1 or getUserPrincipal/ 
> getCallerPrincipal in C1, the answer is derived from A
> 
> If, in C1, you call a further component C2, the permissions for the  
> operation you want to do, isUserInRole, getUser/CallerPrincipal in C2  
> are all determined from the run-as identity B.
> 
> So, ContextManager.push sets up the run-as identity the next component  
> to be called will use.
> 
> So unless you can convince me my understanding of run-as identities is  
> wrong we aren't going to change how the push/pop stuff works.  It  
> really isn't intended for use by applications.
> 
> On the other hand, if you want to immediately execute under another  
> identity you can set both the subjects the context manager tracks  
> using setCallers.  Be sure to restore the previous state when you are  
> done.
> 
> thanks
> david jencks
> 
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Juergen
>>
>>
>> Juergen Weber wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> djencks wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Geronimo uses the AccessControlContext for the Subject to evaluate
>>>> security decisions.  So, you need to get Geronimo to compute and  
>>>> store
>>>> this ACC for you.
>>>> [..]
>>>>
>>>
>>> Well, the methodname pushNextCaller suggests that it would do that.
>>> Anyway, with the code below it works now.
>>>
>>> This code should be in Geronimo itself, I created GERONIMO-4765.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Jürgen
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> SimpleCallbackHandler handler = new SimpleCallbackHandler(
>>>             user, password.toCharArray());
>>>
>>> LoginContext lc = new LoginContext("geronimo-admin", handler);
>>> lc.login();
>>>
>>> Subject subject = lc.getSubject();
>>> System.out.println("lc.getSubject: " + subject);
>>>
>>>
>>> ContextManager.registerSubject(subject);
>>> Callers oldCallers = ContextManager.pushNextCaller(subject);
>>> try
>>> {
>>>     s1 = secured3Bean.secureMethod(input);
>>> }
>>> finally
>>> {
>>>     ContextManager.popCallers(oldCallers);
>>> }
>>>
>>>
>>
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