Re: Where do you get your hardware?

2010-11-07 Thread Andrew Purtell
We have had ixSystems build hardware for us as well. Best regards, - Andy - Original Message > From: Daniel Einspanjer > To: user@hbase.apache.org > Cc: M. C. Srivas > Sent: Sun, November 7, 2010 1:27:58 AM > Subject: Re: Where do you get your hardware?

Re: Where do you get your hardware?

2010-11-07 Thread Daniel Einspanjer
ore ( = 2 x $90 + 4 x ($90 - $70)) more. Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2010 07:25:04 -0700 Subject: Re: Where do you get your hardware? From: mcsri...@gmail.com To: user@hbase.apache.org Supermicro also sells 4 nodes in a 2U, with 24 2.5" drives. You get 6 drives per node, which is 50% more dis

Re: Where do you get your hardware?

2010-11-06 Thread M. C. Srivas
t I got 2 more spindles per machine compared to a 4-drive unit, so its 50% better I/O perf (both xfer rate and disk-ops) for about $220 more ( = 2 x $90 + 4 x ($90 - $70)) more. > > > > Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2010 07:25:04 -0700 > > Subject: Re: Where do you get your hardware? > &g

RE: Where do you get your hardware?

2010-11-06 Thread Michael Segel
Nothing against Super Micro, but... You're paying a premium for the half board machines and you're also going to be paying a premium for 2.5" disks. Are you really that tight on rack space? > Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2010 07:25:04 -0700 > Subject: Re: Where do you get your ha

Re: Where do you get your hardware?

2010-11-06 Thread M. C. Srivas
Supermicro also sells 4 nodes in a 2U, with 24 2.5" drives. You get 6 drives per node, which is 50% more disk per node. The prices seem to be pretty good. On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 10:17 PM, tsuna wrote: > On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 8:59 PM, Patrick Angeles > wrote: > > Did you mean 2 nodes in 2U? >

Re: Where do you get your hardware?

2010-11-05 Thread tsuna
On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 8:59 PM, Patrick Angeles wrote: > Did you mean 2 nodes in 2U? No, I meant 2 nodes in 1U. > Dell, HP and SuperMicro all have models that fit the bill. If you really did > mean 2 nodes in 1U you're looking at either 2.5" drives or < 4 spindles per > node, neither of which is

Re: Where do you get your hardware?

2010-11-05 Thread Patrick Angeles
Did you mean 2 nodes in 2U? Dell, HP and SuperMicro all have models that fit the bill. If you really did mean 2 nodes in 1U you're looking at either 2.5" drives or < 4 spindles per node, neither of which is ideal for Hadoop/HBase in terms of !/$ (bang per buck). On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 9:24 PM, Ja

Re: Where do you get your hardware?

2010-11-05 Thread Jason Lotz
Thanks for the continued input on this. Very interesting replies. I'm particularly interested in the 2 nodes in 1U servers. We'll look into it. Jason On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 6:46 PM, Jonathan Gray wrote: > > Just avoid the dell hard drives, they are a super-rip off. Which btw > > means you'l

RE: Where do you get your hardware?

2010-11-05 Thread Jonathan Gray
> Just avoid the dell hard drives, they are a super-rip off. Which btw > means you'll have to avoid dells, because the _only_ way to get the > dell disk trays which are required is to buy dell hard drives (3-4x > markup btw). +1 on crazy markup. But there actually are some online retailers out t

Re: Where do you get your hardware?

2010-11-05 Thread Ryan Rawson
build, install and support your hardware/OS. >>> Most corporations don't do this because its easier to pick up the phone and >>> order a box already built and you get support. >>> >>> You may consider a hybrid approach. Go w Dell/IBM/Oracle/HP (weird saying >

Re: Where do you get your hardware?

2010-11-05 Thread tsuna
On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Jason Lotz wrote: > Thanks for the replies.  My take away is that most organizations are buying > from vendors (Dell, HP, SuperMicro, HP, etc.)  While "build it yourself" is > an approach, I'm not hearing a lot of companies that are doing it. Maybe companies that

Re: Where do you get your hardware?

2010-11-03 Thread Jack Levin
money, provided >> you have people who know how to build, install and support your hardware/OS. >> Most corporations don't do this because its easier to pick up the phone and >> order a box already built and you get support. >> >> You may consider a hybrid approac

Re: Where do you get your hardware?

2010-11-03 Thread Jason Lotz
pport. > > You may consider a hybrid approach. Go w Dell/IBM/Oracle/HP (weird saying > Oracle and not Sun) for your 'master nodes' [NN,SN,ZKs] where you have > raided drives (smaller) and more memory. > Go white box for your DN (RS) where if you lose a box, you just bring up a

RE: Where do you get your hardware?

2010-11-03 Thread Michael Segel
re memory. Go white box for your DN (RS) where if you lose a box, you just bring up a new one in its place and re-balance. HTH -Mike > From: jasonl...@gmail.com > Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 09:21:03 -0400 > Subject: Where do you get your hardware? > To: user@hbase.apache.org > > We ar

Re: Where do you get your hardware?

2010-11-03 Thread Jeremy Carroll
We have used the Dell Cloud Servers (C2100 to be exact). Turn around time is a little slower, but it's worth it IMHO. On 11/3/10 8:36 AM, "Patrick Angeles" wrote: >Jason, > >Unless you're operating at Google scale, it doesn't make economic sense to >build your own unless you're *really into that

Re: Where do you get your hardware?

2010-11-03 Thread Patrick Angeles
Jason, Unless you're operating at Google scale, it doesn't make economic sense to build your own unless you're *really into that*. Most major vendors (HP, Dell, SuperMicro) will offer a configuration that is very suitable for Hadoop. Regards, - P On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 9:21 AM, Jason Lotz wro

Re: Where do you get your hardware?

2010-11-03 Thread Tim Robertson
We just set up a cluster with Dells, and have a pretty fine relationship with a local Dell supplier. Tim On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Jason Lotz wrote: > We are in the process of analyzing our options for the future purchases of > our Hadoop/HBase DN/RS servers.  Currently, we purchase Dell

Where do you get your hardware?

2010-11-03 Thread Jason Lotz
We are in the process of analyzing our options for the future purchases of our Hadoop/HBase DN/RS servers. Currently, we purchase Dell PowerEdge R710's which work well for us. However, we know that there are other options that may give us more bang for our buck. I'm not as interested in knowing