Re: Which server store the root and .meta. information?

2012-02-12 Thread Eric Charles
Hi Doug, I was well thinking that master was in the play in case of region split or problems. I searched in the paper book I have, but didn't really find anything on that. Luckily, it is well documented on http://hbase.apache.org/book/regions.arch.html: - failover: ... The Master will detect

Re: Which server store the root and .meta. information?

2012-02-12 Thread Doug Meil
Hi there- Glad to hear that the Arch chapter was helpful! re: #1 splits The split won't be complete if the master isn't there. Good question, and the effects of the master not being up will be added to the book. re: #2. RS monitoring Good question, I'm not familiar with the specifics on

HMaster/HRegion interactions [Was: Re: Which server store the root and .meta. information?]

2012-02-12 Thread Eric Charles
Good questions lead to good books :) From the outside, I would expect: 1.- Region tries first to contact Master. If it does not succeed, it simply does not try to split... But from your answer, it seems that the split is started even if master is not there, leading to 'phantom regions'. Btw,

Re: Which server store the root and .meta. information?

2012-02-11 Thread Eric Charles
. -- 该邮件从移动设备发送 -- Original -- From: yonghuyongyong...@gmail.com Date: Fri, Feb 10, 2012 07:12 PM To: useruser@hbase.apache.org; Subject: Which server store the root and .meta. information? Hello, I read some articles which mention before the client connect

Re: Which server store the root and .meta. information?

2012-02-11 Thread Stack
2012/2/11 Eric Charles e...@apache.org: Hypothetical case (probably asked a number of time here, sorry...): Can a client correcty put, get, scan (no admins tasks such as create table,...) with a HBase cluster having its HMaster process down  ? It can Eric. Kill your master and you can do

Re: Which server store the root and .meta. information?

2012-02-11 Thread Eric Charles
Funky, cause HBase is often presented as a 3-layers server model zookeeper/master/region (root/meta in the regions bringing still more fogs). Maybe the commonly understanding in the community is that HBase's HMaster is like Hadoop's NameNode, which is not the case (NameNode's failure will

Re: Which server store the root and .meta. information?

2012-02-11 Thread Doug Meil
Regarding the master being down, just be aware that if you lose an RS that you'll have issues because the master is what does the reassignment. Per the previous comments, at steady-state HBase can run without the master - there's an asterisk. On 2/11/12 11:31 AM, Eric Charles e...@apache.org

Which server store the root and .meta. information?

2012-02-10 Thread yonghu
Hello, I read some articles which mention before the client connect to the master node, he will first connect to the zookeeper node and find the location of the root node. So, my question is that the node which stores the root information is different from master node or they are the same node?

Re: Which server store the root and .meta. information?

2012-02-10 Thread yonghu
PM To: useruser@hbase.apache.org; Subject: Which server store the root and .meta. information? Hello, I read some articles which mention before the client connect to the master node, he will first connect to the zookeeper node and find the location of the root node. So, my question

Re: Which server store the root and .meta. information?

2012-02-10 Thread Harsh J
. -- 该邮件从移动设备发送 -- Original -- From: yonghuyongyong...@gmail.com Date: Fri, Feb 10, 2012 07:12 PM To: useruser@hbase.apache.org; Subject: Which server store the root and .meta. information? Hello, I read some articles which mention before the client connect

Re: Which server store the root and .meta. information?

2012-02-10 Thread yonghu
: yonghuyongyong...@gmail.com Date: Fri, Feb 10, 2012 07:12 PM To: useruser@hbase.apache.org; Subject: Which server store the root and .meta. information? Hello, I read some articles which mention before the client connect to the master node, he will first connect to the zookeeper node and find

Re: Which server store the root and .meta. information?

2012-02-10 Thread Harsh J
移动设备发送 -- Original -- From: yonghuyongyong...@gmail.com Date: Fri, Feb 10, 2012 07:12 PM To: useruser@hbase.apache.org; Subject: Which server store the root and .meta. information? Hello, I read some articles which mention before the client connect

Re: Which server store the root and .meta. information?

2012-02-10 Thread Doug Meil
: yonghuyongyong...@gmail.com Date: Fri, Feb 10, 2012 07:12 PM To: useruser@hbase.apache.org; Subject: Which server store the root and .meta. information? Hello, I read some articles which mention before the client connect to the master node, he will first connect to the zookeeper node and find