Re: OFBiz/opentaps as a small business accounting package?

2007-01-19 Thread David E. Jones
On Jan 18, 2007, at 4:38 AM, Jonathon -- Improov wrote: Er, Ian. I forgot to mention this. The docs for engineers aren't too comprehensive either. Try putting your best Java developers into picking up OFBiz. Take the screen widgets and form widgets for example. See how they fare. Like I

Re: OFBiz/opentaps as a small business accounting package?

2007-01-19 Thread David E. Jones
On Jan 18, 2007, at 12:03 AM, Ian McNulty wrote: Imo this explains the lack of docs and the small bugs. The mass of available documentation is actually almost as awesome as the framework itself. Problem is that it is all aimed at engineers who need to understand how it works ... not how to

Re: OFBiz/opentaps as a small business accounting package?

2007-01-19 Thread David E. Jones
On Jan 17, 2007, at 10:10 PM, Jonathon -- Improov wrote: You'll find that being a novice Java developer is ALL you need to be, the framework is that easy to use. Well, you also need acute reverse-engineering skills because the only way you'll find out how things work is by diving into the

Re: Purchasing services to process components, and receiving processed components

2007-01-19 Thread Scott Gray
Hi Jonathan I haven't looked into this very deeply but was pondering it a while back. I had thought about creating a new order type along the lines of "GOODS_WORK_ORDER" and then using a combination of the sales order code (picking, packing and shipping the raw materials) and the purchase ord

Re: what happens when you buy a Subscription item?

2007-01-19 Thread Al Byers
Si, I am still working on subscription stuff for a client. I would be glad to share what we have done. We even experimented with a little WebTest script to test the process and the auto rebilling. We are now looking at what the auto-order shopping cart generates and how we tie that together to p

Re: what happens when you buy a Subscription item?

2007-01-19 Thread David E. Jones
Right now that is all it does. So no, it doesn't automatically create an auto-order shopping list, or grant access to anything in OFBiz. There are some ties to content stuff and content permissions in there, but both those and the Subscription entity in general is meant to be checked for

what happens when you buy a Subscription item?

2007-01-19 Thread Si Chen
Hi. What happens when you buy a Subscription item like GZ-NEWS? I saw that an entry is made in the Subscription entity, but does anything else happen? Is there suposed to be any other functionality right now? I didn't find a Subscription tab anywhere in the backend applications or anything

Re: Purchasing services to process components, and receiving processed components

2007-01-19 Thread Jonathon -- Improov
Anil, > For associating a Order with WorkEffort, there is Orders tab in WorkEffort > and we can associate a Order to WorkEffort there, It does not let us specify > OrderItem, But that will be a simple change. Yes, we can make the association there. But such an association doesn't seem to serve a

Re: Address of the mailing list on website

2007-01-19 Thread Jacques Le Roux
Yes I updated this page some time ago. I also asked infra to update http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/, still not done. And if you use the link http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/ofbiz-dev/ you get to the same page as http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ofbiz-dev/ Jac

Re: Purchasing services to process components, and receiving processed components

2007-01-19 Thread Anil Patel
Jonathon, I understand what you are saying. All database entities seems to be in place. We can tie WorkEffort to OrderItem. For associating a Order with WorkEffort, there is Orders tab in WorkEffort and we can associate a Order to WorkEffort there, It does not let us specify OrderItem, But that w

Re: Purchasing services to process components, and receiving processed components

2007-01-19 Thread Jonathon -- Improov
Anil, > I realize that this is user mailing list, What I am suggesting will > take little bit of development work. It's alright. I believe the dev list is for actual development discussions, like a "do we code it in a switch-case or a cascading if-else" issue. We're still discussing whether we

Re: [Newbie] Unable to connect to the current svn trunk OFBiz

2007-01-19 Thread Oswaldo V. C. Bueno
Now I am being able to access it. Thanks, Bueno > > It looks like those links were messed up that document, probably > something funny happened when the HTML was copied over. > > They are now corrected, so you should be able to go back here and try > again: > > http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBAD

Re: Address of the mailing list on website

2007-01-19 Thread Oswaldo V. C. Bueno
Hello David, Bueno is my last name. Thanks for answering, Bueno > > Thanks for the feedback Bueno. Is that a nick-name, BTW, it's pretty > cool... bueno Bueno. > > It looks like the home page was updated a but back in SVN but never > propagated to the production servers. I have started that and

FedEx shipping integration

2007-01-19 Thread Si Chen
Hi everybody - We may be implementing FedEx shipping integration into OFBIZ over the next month. This has been discussed quite a few times before, and a few people have said that they have already implemented it in some form or the other. If anybody has existing code and would like to contri

Re: [Newbie] Unable to connect to the current svn trunk OFBiz

2007-01-19 Thread David E. Jones
It looks like those links were messed up that document, probably something funny happened when the HTML was copied over. They are now corrected, so you should be able to go back here and try again: http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/Demo+and+Test+Setup+Guide -David On Jan 19, 2007,

[Newbie] Unable to connect to the current svn trunk OFBiz

2007-01-19 Thread Oswaldo V. C. Bueno
Hello, I'm a newbie and just downloaded the latest svn revision. I followed the steps on this page . Successfully compiled using "ant" command. Successfully loaded the seed and demo data using "ant run-install" command. Started u

Re: Purchasing services to process components, and receiving processed components

2007-01-19 Thread Anil Patel
Jonathon, Please forgive my ignorance of Manufacturing terms. Also Now I realize that this is user mailing list, What I am suggesting will take little bit of development work. The tasks in Production run are nothing but WorkEffort. WorkEffort has association with Order entity. So what we can do

Re: Address of the mailing list on website

2007-01-19 Thread David E. Jones
Thanks for the feedback Bueno. Is that a nick-name, BTW, it's pretty cool... bueno Bueno. It looks like the home page was updated a but back in SVN but never propagated to the production servers. I have started that and so it will be updated when the automated process picks it up within a

Address of the mailing list on website

2007-01-19 Thread Oswaldo V. C. Bueno
Hello everyone, I'm a new subscriber of this mailing list. I'd like to recommend updating the link of the mailing list to it's new address. Following the link , I ended trying to subscribe sending an email to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> As I

Re: Ofbiz.org Google Pagerank is 10

2007-01-19 Thread David E. Jones
Interesting... I just took a quick peek at this and it looks like the pagerank for "ofbiz.apache.org" is 10, which isn't bad as www.apache.org only has a rank of 9. That's really cool. It may be the recency is a factor here, so everyone please start/keep linking to "ofbiz.apache.org"! I i

Re: OFBiz/opentaps as a small business accounting package?

2007-01-19 Thread Ian McNulty
Jacques, The most interesting thing for me is Si's how-to-spur-greater-adoption---let's brainstorm thread. So you have all been here before! It's going to take me some time to read and get up to speed on all that. But like you said, time is flying To me, Application Overview for Users

Ofbiz.org Google Pagerank is 10

2007-01-19 Thread Vinay Agarwal
Fellow OFBiz Members, I just noticed that ofbiz.org Google pagerank is 10. For comparison, cnn.com, yahoo.com, and msn.com all have pagerank 9. It says something about the project. Congratulations on becoming a top level project at Apache. Regards, Vinay Agarwal

Re: Confirm that internal SO process is bugged?

2007-01-19 Thread Iain Fogg
Jonathon, Re: issue 583, the patch (code snippet actually) I included in the Jira issue fixed the immediate problem for me of not being able to raise SOs. I (and I can tell by the huge number of list msgs, everyone else) has been too busy to follow it through and get it incorporated into the c

OFBIZ on SQL server 2005

2007-01-19 Thread Amine AZZI
Hello All, I have a customer who wants OFbiz on its ready SQL server 2005 Server. I know that there are already users who use Ofbiz with SQL server 2005, but is there any issues I must be aware of, before heading to customization and other stuff. Thanks in advance. Amine

Re: OFBiz/opentaps as a small business accounting package?

2007-01-19 Thread Jacques Le Roux
Ian, "Short" answer (time is flying...). This is only my opinion and not community ! > Jacques, > > All that looks good as it stands. It's another one of those essential > engineering resources that I really wouldn't want to be messing around > with it at all. > > Imo what is needed in terms of u

Re: Purchasing services to process components, and receiving processed components

2007-01-19 Thread Jonathon -- Improov
Anil, How does that relate to my question on tying PO/SO to shipment and to WorkEffort (production runs)? Are you saying that there can be a tree of production runs, the upper nodes being dependent on the lower leaves? So, I would have the following production runs: 1. Production run to man

Re: OFBiz/opentaps as a small business accounting package?

2007-01-19 Thread Jonathon -- Improov
Ian, > That would be great. Problem is that I need help on so many areas of > OFBiz, it's difficult to know where to start. Start with your first question. "Where is the door??". Then "ok, doorknob?". It always has to start somewhere. The trick is to make sure you give some (reasonable) lead

Re: OFBiz/opentaps as a small business accounting package?

2007-01-19 Thread Anil Patel
Ian, Inspired by your communication in dev ML, Today I created two Jira Issues https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-635 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-636 I will appreciate feedback and help on these. Our team can do fair job on

Re: OFBiz/opentaps as a small business accounting package?

2007-01-19 Thread Ian McNulty
Andrew, Good point. I'd forgotten about the dialectic. I'd go for that too. Why not have both? A synthesis of opposites and a rationalisation between the two. We both agree it's the way to go. By any means necessary as they say :) Ian Andrew Sykes wrote: Ian, On Thu, 2007-01-18 at 20:59

Re: OFBiz/opentaps as a small business accounting package?

2007-01-19 Thread Ian McNulty
Jacques, All that looks good as it stands. It's another one of those essential engineering resources that I really wouldn't want to be messing around with it at all. Imo what is needed in terms of user rather than developer documentation, is a completely fresh start form a completely differe

Re: OFBiz/opentaps as a small business accounting package?

2007-01-19 Thread Ian McNulty
Jonathon, Got to say that I like where you're coming from here. Particularly your attitude to complaints. I'm thinking Toyota production system and the Honda ads. here - "Hate Something, Change Something, Make Something Better." > Can we all help each other? It would be great if we could.

Confirm that internal SO process is bugged?

2007-01-19 Thread Jonathon -- Improov
Can anyone give a quick (1-sec) confirmation that the SO process is bugged before I embark on an overhaul? I suspect I'll need a similar overhaul as what I did for http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-627 . One example of a problem with internal SO process is http://issues.apache.org/j

Re: Purchasing services to process components, and receiving processed components

2007-01-19 Thread Anil Patel
Yesterday I applied a patch to Jira Issue for Deep copy of WorkEffort. Its based on Idea of Create a Template WorkEffort (can have Assocs) , Then use deep copy service to create instance of it. This deep copy service can be extended to even copy POs associated with WorkEffort. Any Ideas! Regard

Re: Purchasing services to process components, and receiving processed components

2007-01-19 Thread Jonathon -- Improov
Chris, I've confirmed that OFBiz doesn't do anything near as complicated as what I described below (in 1st post in thread). (Even the routing task type of Sub-contracting doesn't do anything?). I'd like to ask the community for advice of "best practices" before I submit an enhancement. How wo