Re: OFBiz: The road ahead RE the framework

2011-01-28 Thread Michael Xu (xudong)
I also suggested that before. What I like is JIRA plugin framework, which is on top of OSGI. OSGI brings the ability that plugin could be loaded runtime, which is very important to bring ofbiz up to cloud.. -- Regards, Michael Xu (xudong) On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Adrian Crum < adrian.c..

Re: OFBiz: The road ahead RE the framework

2011-01-27 Thread Adrian Crum
Thanks Scott! We will keep that in mind. -Adrian On 1/27/2011 11:49 PM, Scott Gray wrote: On 28/01/2011, at 8:37 PM, Adrian Crum wrote: There is no doubt there will be problems. We can tackle them one at a time in a Jira issue. I wasn't aware that entity-ext depends on the service engine. M

Re: OFBiz: The road ahead RE the framework

2011-01-27 Thread Raj Saini
Done. https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4153 Raj On Friday 28 January 2011 01:07 PM, Adrian Crum wrote: There is no doubt there will be problems. We can tackle them one at a time in a Jira issue. I wasn't aware that entity-ext depends on the service engine. Maybe a Jira sub-task c

Re: OFBiz: The road ahead RE the framework

2011-01-27 Thread Scott Gray
On 28/01/2011, at 8:37 PM, Adrian Crum wrote: > There is no doubt there will be problems. We can tackle them one at a time in > a Jira issue. > > I wasn't aware that entity-ext depends on the service engine. Maybe a Jira > sub-task could break that dependency. That's kind of the point of entit

Re: OFBiz: The road ahead RE the framework

2011-01-27 Thread Adrian Crum
There is no doubt there will be problems. We can tackle them one at a time in a Jira issue. I wasn't aware that entity-ext depends on the service engine. Maybe a Jira sub-task could break that dependency. I think the entityengine.xml file issue can be resolved through standard Java resource

Re: OFBiz: The road ahead RE the framework

2011-01-27 Thread Raj Saini
I tried to use the entity engine exactly the way you have described. I faced the problems as entity engine depends entity-ext (for some cache management) and entity-ext depends on service engine. If we resolve this dependency, entity engine can certainly be a standalone jar and as you said it c

Re: OFBiz: The road ahead RE the framework

2011-01-27 Thread Adrian Crum
I was picturing the entity engine as a lower level artifact - like a jar file. I don't have all of the details worked out yet, but what I picture is this: 1. An application needs a database-agnostic data store. 2. The application accesses the data store though the entity engine API/ jar librar

Re: OFBiz: The road ahead RE the framework

2011-01-27 Thread Raj Saini
I will certainly be glad to help in this. I had re-packaged the entity engine as and OSGi bundle and exposed the delegator as osgi service. I found minor issues like loading of entityengine.xml from classpath and this did not go well with the OSGi. Let us wait for the the restructuring of the O

Re: OFBiz: The road ahead RE the framework

2011-01-27 Thread Raj Saini
Yes, I agree. Entity Engine and Service Engine are two such marvellous pieces of technologies. Entity engine can very well compete with Java Persistence API (JPA) if it is separated from the OFBiz runtime. Raj On Friday 28 January 2011 10:26 AM, Adrian Crum wrote: I have suggested that in the

Re: OFBiz: The road ahead RE the framework

2011-01-27 Thread Adrian Crum
I have suggested that in the past. OFBiz has spawned some great technology that, if modified to be stand-alone subsystems, could be their own projects. -Adrian On 1/27/2011 8:52 PM, Raj Saini wrote: One thing I would like to see is to use the OSGi runtime for framework. This will help modular

Re: OFBiz: The road ahead RE the framework

2011-01-27 Thread Raj Saini
One thing I would like to see is to use the OSGi runtime for framework. This will help modularising efforts. For example entity engine, service engine, security etc. will be OSGi bundles running on top of OSGi framework such Apache Karaf. Apache ServiceMix is already using Karaf (http://karaf.a

Re: OFBiz: The road ahead RE the framework

2011-01-27 Thread Brian Topping
Sorry, I didn't see this thread when I wrote my previous email. If it should be resent to this thread, please let me know. Cheers, Brian On Jan 27, 2011, at 4:31 AM, Pierre Smits wrote: > Hi All, > > This thread is about where you want the community to go with the underlying > core components

OFBiz: The road ahead RE the framework

2011-01-27 Thread Pierre Smits
Hi All, This thread is about where you want the community to go with the underlying core components of OFBiz (aka the Framework). The framework is the enables of all applications and business processes and users of the product. It is about security, and about a future proof and reliable platform