Re: Newbie Lost in the Apache Jungle

2007-01-19 Thread Ted Husted
Just to follow up on the Grails suggestion. * http://www.infoq.com/minibooks/grails -T. On 1/10/07, Jason King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: grails, http://grails.codehaus.org might be a better choice as it links into several standard java projects (specifically spring and hibernate) w/o you havi

Re: Newbie Lost in the Apache Jungle

2007-01-12 Thread Ted Husted
Yet another native guide: * Java CRUD frameworks - http://kproject.gr/blog/?p=7 -Ted. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Newbie Lost in the Apache Jungle

2007-01-10 Thread Jason King
grails, http://grails.codehaus.org might be a better choice as it links into several standard java projects (specifically spring and hibernate) w/o you having to learn them up front. Groovy might be a better conceptual fit if you're coming from a 4gl background as well. Ted Husted wrote: You m

Re: Newbie Lost in the Apache Jungle

2007-01-10 Thread Ted Husted
You might want to give Ruby on Rails a look see. It isn't Java, or an ASF project, but it is open source, and a lot of Java developers have defected to RoR over the last couple of years. * http://www.rubyonrails.org/ And do invest an afternoon in setting up Subversion, even if you are working a

Re: Newbie Lost in the Apache Jungle

2007-01-10 Thread Phil_M
he 4GL stuff recently. Needless to say, it is not a good thing for my career to lose my coding skill -- the job market for java web developers is much bigger than for 4GL developers. --Phil -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Newbie-Lost-in-the-Apache-Jungle-tf2953416.html#a8265065

Re: Newbie Lost in the Apache Jungle

2007-01-10 Thread Leon Rosenberg
gt; > are you talking about RAD a in > Rapid application development (RAD) ? > > If yes, than it doesn't depend on the framework you use. It's the > definition of development process, not on which framework you intend > to run. > > regards > Leon -- View this message i

Re: Newbie Lost in the Apache Jungle

2007-01-10 Thread Dale Newfield
Phil_M wrote: Since I'll be the only author until at least an alpha release is ready, I can defer CVS for the moment -- as you said, we need to avoid overrunning our brain's buffers. I would caution against this. The added difficulty of setting up a cvs or svn repository is minimal (add an ho

RE: Newbie Lost in the Apache Jungle

2007-01-10 Thread Bruno Melloni
From: Phil_M [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 12:37 PM To: user@struts.apache.org Subject: RE: Newbie Lost in the Apache Jungle Bruno: Thanks for your excellent reply -- if I understand right, you're suggesting a java servlets based architecture (tomcat & u

Re: Newbie Lost in the Apache Jungle

2007-01-10 Thread Phil_M
the framework you use. It's the > definition of development process, not on which framework you intend > to run. > > regards > Leon -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Newbie-Lost-in-the-Apache-Jungle-tf2953416.html#a82636

RE: Newbie Lost in the Apache Jungle

2007-01-10 Thread Phil_M
our > second version. > > That should be a good start. It is probably overwhelming, but it is all > pretty much needed. > > Bruno -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Newbie-Lost-in-the-Apache-Jungle-tf2953416.html#a8263493 Sent from the Struts - User

RE: Newbie Lost in the Apache Jungle

2007-01-10 Thread Bruno Melloni
ipt yet. Do that in your second version. That should be a good start. It is probably overwhelming, but it is all pretty much needed. Bruno -Original Message- From: Phil_M [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 10:24 AM To: user@struts.apache.org Subject: Newbie

Re: Newbie Lost in the Apache Jungle

2007-01-10 Thread Leon Rosenberg
Model be reverse engeneering. Lot's of other frameworks use this feature of hibernate to generate quickly a CRUD application (appfuse, Seam, ...). -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Newbie-Lost-in-the-Apache-Jungle-tf2953416.html#a8261248 Sent from the Struts - User mailing list

Re: Newbie Lost in the Apache Jungle

2007-01-10 Thread Phil_M
e a persistent Model be reverse engeneering. Lot's of other frameworks use this feature of hibernate to generate quickly a CRUD application (appfuse, Seam, ...). -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Newbie-Lost-in-the-Apache-Jungle-tf2953416.html#a8261248 Sent from the Struts - User

Re: Newbie Lost in the Apache Jungle

2007-01-10 Thread nicolas de loof
y vague, but can anyone point me in the right direction? TIA, --Phil -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Newbie-Lost-in-the-Apache-Jungle-tf2953416.html#a8260640 Sent from the Struts - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ---

Newbie Lost in the Apache Jungle

2007-01-10 Thread Phil_M
nt me in the right direction? TIA, --Phil -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Newbie-Lost-in-the-Apache-Jungle-tf2953416.html#a8260640 Sent from the Struts - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To uns