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Yan Hu wrote:
But java is perhaps not suitable for fat client - type apps while it
is a great language for the server side.
Dave Newton wrote:
How is it "not suitable" for fat clients?
Yan Hu wrote:
How many huge apps are written in Java Swing and how many are in C++,C
or even
Yan Hu wrote:
But java is perhaps not suitable for fat client - type apps while it is a great
language for the server side.
How is it "not suitable" for fat clients? _Especially_ fat clients that
might reuse a _substantial_ part library code of the server side or
interface directly with a sh
(was Java code generator including Struts 1.2)
OK, my post did look kind of ugly. It really wasn't directed
at any person, just at the words.
I've been programming with Swing since 1.1.8 and finally I am
able to do it for a living. I've heard all the Swing stinks
arguments
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> OK, my post did look kind of ugly. It really w
t; Anyway, I know, I'm on the wrong list. All I should have said is: Good Swing
> code is anything
> but "crap code".
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> Erik
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e is anything but "crap code".
Erik
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Hey, back the testosterone truck
;-)
Erik
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Hey, back the testosterone truck up Erik...
You want to disagree w
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> On 8/10/05, Frank W. Zammetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED
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On 8/10/05, Frank W. Zammetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I remember having to deal with some Swing code that was created by a
junior programmer using some IDE (I forget which frankly, it
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> What a load of crap.
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What a load of crap.
Swing doesn't suck, you just suck at it.
Erik
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On 8/10/
I think Swing is easy if you MVC. For example don't do inner classes and
listners to this. Just separate out your action from the relizer.
.V
Frank W. Zammetti wrote:
No argument here... Swing is a pain in the arse under the best of
conditions.
Frank
Michael Jouravlev wrote:
Apparently,
st
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> That's a very narrow view of code generators.
> There are plenty of domains where the generator is used once to give
> the programmer a starting point.
> (I'm not commenting on nor ju
No argument here... Swing is a pain in the arse under the best of
conditions. I'm not sure just having resource files would make it not
so, but it couldn't hurt. Frankly, for me, if I'm doing a fat client
app, and assuming there is no cross-platform concerns, I'm loading up
Visual Basic and n
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code gener
On 8/10/05, Frank W. Zammetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I remember having to deal with some Swing code that was created by a
> junior programmer using some IDE (I forget which frankly, it's not on the
> market any more - I want to say it was IBM's old one before WSAD, but I
> might be wrong). T
I have a copy of RAD here, but I've purposely stayed away from it because
I had some bad experience with it and WSAD before it... recently, it
screwed up doing J2EE security configuration and I spent two days trying
to understand the XML it spit out, finally got it and fixed it by hand.
Unfortunat
YES! That's it! Thank you for reminding me!
No, on second thought, d**n you for reminding me :-) LOL
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> VisualAge for Java, Remember
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Anyone who has read this list for a while knows my feeling on automated
code generation... saying it's
Anyone who has read this list for a while knows my feeling on automated
code generation... saying it's a crime against humanity might be
overstating my opinion a bit, but not by much :)
I think Greg says it well though... I never had a problem using the
application wizard in Visual C++... it just
That's a very narrow view of code generators.
There are plenty of domains where the generator is used once to give the
programmer a starting point.
(I'm not commenting on nor judging this guys stuff.)
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> > Oh.
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> Which is why I prefer to
You can got the following source codes:
(1) jsp code using Struts tag library for database CRUD methods.
(2). struts-config.xml
(3). validation.xml
(3). action source codes.
(4). form source codes
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Jinpeng-
I think code generators could be a 'good thing' ..A few questions -
Does it create Tags?
Tag Library Descriptor files?
Does it generate desciptor files (struts-config.xml?)?
Does it generate entity beans?
session beans?
Does it war the file a
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> Oh.
Which is why I prefer to pay godaddy extra nine bucks a year for them
to hide my registration info ;)
Michael.
Man, that just demonstrates exactly how much of a cynical ba***rd I
actually am...
Before I even saw the registration info, when I saw the original post as a
matter of fact, I just *assumed* this was the case.
I'm further gone than I thought :)
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