Re: Struts vs Other competitors

2009-07-28 Thread musomesa
: Struts vs Other competitors I would say the biggest help we can get right now is on the documentation and get help testing releases. One thing I have always seems lacking in the struts community, is support from users to help testing releases *before* they are actually released. As for

Re: Struts vs Other competitors

2009-07-28 Thread Zoran Avtarovski
Sadly, I have kids so I either have no time for video games or can¹t get access to the gear. My past time is daydreaming about having a past time. As for testing, and documentation these tasks are as valid as any others, but again the problem from my perspective, and I don¹t mean that in a negativ

Re: Struts vs Other competitors

2009-07-27 Thread Musachy Barroso
I would say the biggest help we can get right now is on the documentation and get help testing releases. One thing I have always seems lacking in the struts community, is support from users to help testing releases *before* they are actually released. As for coordinating effort, I am not sure it w

Re: Struts vs Other competitors

2009-07-27 Thread Zoran Avtarovski
I have to agree. Our touch with the JSF Oracle was both painful and fruitless and lead us to truly appreciate how bad things could be. Having said that, I think Martin has raised some points about how S2 can be improved and I think S2 is at a stage where there needs to be some general discussion o

Re: Struts vs Other competitors

2009-07-27 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
The phrase "OH GOD KILL IT! KILL IT WITH FIRE!" has been heard exclaimed in relation to JSF on more than one occassion. -- Frank W. Zammetti Author of "Practical Ext JS Projects with Gears" and "Practical Dojo Projects" and "Practical DWR 2 Projects" and "Practical JavaScript, DOM Scripting

Re: Struts vs Other competitors

2009-07-27 Thread Musachy Barroso
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 4:42 AM, Andrey Rogov wrote: > I agree with Matt Rable that JSF programming based on RAD methods makes us > transition to JSF. I think many, many people have crossed that bridge and came back in rush after a while. musachy -- "Hey you! Would you help me to carry the ston

RE: Struts vs Other competitors

2009-07-27 Thread Martin Gainty
To: user@struts.apache.org > Subject: RE: Struts vs Other competitors > Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:42:06 +0300 > > Thank you Martin, > > Sooner or later we start considering programming as business. > It's critical to develop new products or new versions with parameters

RE: Struts vs Other competitors

2009-07-27 Thread Andrey Rogov
m spending extra time to transition to JSF+ADF ASAP. -Original Message- From: Martin Gainty [mailto:mgai...@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 5:01 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: Struts vs Other competitors support for Toplink support for EJB3.0 the struts plugin-ex

RE: Struts vs Other competitors

2009-07-26 Thread Martin Gainty
on, nous ne pouvons accepter aucune responsabilité pour le contenu fourni. > From: strut...@gmail.com > To: user@struts.apache.org > Subject: RE: Struts vs Other competitors > Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 03:59:25 +0300 > > Martin, > What do you think about Oracle ADF ? > >

RE: Struts vs Other competitors

2009-07-26 Thread Andrey Rogov
Martin, What do you think about Oracle ADF ? -Original Message- From: Martin Gainty [mailto:mgai...@hotmail.com] Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 4:42 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: Struts vs Other competitors Raible rated Struts as "poor support" support in JSF i

RE: Struts vs Other competitors

2009-07-26 Thread Martin Gainty
erdite. Ce message sert à l'information seulement et n'aura pas n'importe quel effet légalement obligatoire. Étant donné que les email peuvent facilement être sujets à la manipulation, nous ne pouvons accepter aucune responsabilité pour le contenu fourni. > Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2

Re: Struts vs Other competitors

2009-07-25 Thread Musachy Barroso
dig around Matt Raible's blog/presentations, he has plenty of stuff related to that. musachy On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 10:19 PM, Ricardo Ramos wrote: > Hi! > > Can you guys point me to some literature debating Struts 1 vs. Struts 2  vs. > Asp.NET vs. JSF vs. etc..? > > The project on which I'm work

Struts vs Other competitors

2009-07-25 Thread Ricardo Ramos
Hi! Can you guys point me to some literature debating Struts 1 vs. Struts 2 vs. Asp.NET vs. JSF vs. etc..? The project on which I'm working on currently uses Struts 1 (+ Spring and Hibernate). Although I don't foresee a migration happening for the following years, it would be very interesting to