Re: Objective-C support

2019-04-30 Thread Kevin Wojniak
Bringing back ObjC would be great. We could generate several bug fixes to keep it going a few more years. Is there more documentation about the test infrastructure? I didn't see much more than the read me, but I could dig into it more. Kevin On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 10:01 AM James E. King III wr

Re: Objective-C support

2019-04-22 Thread James E. King III
Releases for this project are very expensive. We have about 28 languages to support. It would make more sense to reinstate the objc code for the next major release if people are still using it and the premise that everybody is moving to Swift was in fact unfounded. In a project this complex, rem

Re: Objective-C support

2019-04-22 Thread Kevin Wojniak
Instead of bringing back the objc code and fully supporting it going forward, what about releasing one or more 0.12 minor updates to fix a few bugs in the objc code? I can make issues and PRs for the changes. Kevin On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 5:51 AM James E. King III wrote: > There should be no in

Re: Objective-C support

2019-04-22 Thread James E. King III
There should be no incompatibilities if both sides are using binary protocol, for example, since that format has been very stable. We haven't expressly done cross-version testing in our CI however the compatibility should work. We also need someone to write the TestClient and TestServer for swift

Re: Objective-C support

2019-04-21 Thread Kevin Wojniak
Hi Jim, Sorry for the delay in responding. Other tasks have taken priority! Cocoa is Apple specific, but there is GNUstep, however that is not widely used. I do notice the existing Swift port is still using the Cocoa libraries, and seems to be a direct, although incomplete, port from the Objectiv

Re: Objective-C support

2019-03-25 Thread James E. King III
Hi, The consensus was that cocoa has been deprecated since 2012, nobody was actively pushing it forward, it was never integrated into the cross-language integration test suite, and the project has support for 28 languages and limited resources to do that. Given the long deprecation time and vario

Re: Objective-C support

2019-03-23 Thread Edward Capriolo
In general doesn't objective-c have a wider scope then swift anyway. Like swift is targeted for mac but you can compile objective-c with gcc on any nix? On Friday, March 22, 2019, Steve Yegge wrote: > I'd like to second this. I have a large Objective-C app that won't be > ported to Swift in the

Re: Objective-C support

2019-03-22 Thread Steve Yegge
I'd like to second this. I have a large Objective-C app that won't be ported to Swift in the next few years. On Fri, Mar 22, 2019 at 1:54 PM Kevin Wojniak wrote: > Hi, > > I am curious as to why the Objective-C implementation was removed, since > Objective-C is not a deprecated language. The d

Objective-C support

2019-03-22 Thread Kevin Wojniak
Hi, I am curious as to why the Objective-C implementation was removed, since Objective-C is not a deprecated language. The documentation says to use Swift. However, Swift is not fully backwards compatible with Objective-C. Also, bringing in Swift to Objective-C means bringing in the entire Swift r