Re: [DISCUSS] Looks like someone feels threatened... (TIBCO vs Open Source ESBs)

2015-04-26 Thread Camel Guy
I can't imagine getting my boss to pay for something like TIBCO. That would require quite a sales job. With one exception, the developers I know wouldn't even use Camel. They tend to reinvent the wheel. But they do use Spring and a few even use Spring Integration. In order to commit to something

Re: [DISCUSS] Looks like someone feels threatened... (TIBCO vs Open Source ESBs)

2015-04-23 Thread Raul Kripalani
Exactly. And what many fail to see is that closed source is – in many cases – leveraging OSS under the hood. Sometimes the vendor will be nice and make it evident (e.g. IBM WebSphere being quite transparent in their docs about using Apache Aries, they also contribute, etc.). But in other cases,

Re: [DISCUSS] Looks like someone feels threatened... (TIBCO vs Open Source ESBs)

2015-04-22 Thread Claus Ibsen
Hi Raul Did you get a chance to continue working on this? I think for #3 its due to the openes of the source code that people dive in and help fix those vulnerabilities as well. And as you say we are very open and they get proper registerede with a CVE and listed in the public. And we do put out

[DISCUSS] Looks like someone feels threatened... (TIBCO vs Open Source ESBs)

2015-04-17 Thread Raul Kripalani
Just found this marketing landing page published on social networks. It's made by TIBCO and attempts to highlight the downsides of Open Source ESBs. You don't need to be a rocket scientist to gather what exact ESB they are targeting (not us): just look at the images.

Re: [DISCUSS] Looks like someone feels threatened... (TIBCO vs Open Source ESBs)

2015-04-17 Thread Claus Ibsen
Hi Raul Well spotted. Well I guess its only a sign that Camel / Open Source / SMX / Karaf / Others Camel like ESBs make a dent into the old world. Now its Tibco to take notice. Their 4 myths seems very generic to me, as its not really about ESB but Open Source in general. IBM have done their