Re: Using the SOAP DataFormat with JMS queues

2010-09-10 Thread Willem Jiang
On 9/10/10 4:30 PM, Christian Schneider wrote: Hi Glen, I think we can leave the wiki page this way. But honestly I do not understand why it makes a difference if someone is listening. The idea behind messaging is that you decouple the Client and the Server. So I think there is no difference bet

Re: Using the SOAP DataFormat with JMS queues

2010-09-10 Thread Christian Schneider
Hi Glen, I think we can leave the wiki page this way. But honestly I do not understand why it makes a difference if someone is listening. The idea behind messaging is that you decouple the Client and the Server. So I think there is no difference between sending a message and making a call.

Re: Using the SOAP DataFormat with JMS queues

2010-09-09 Thread Glen Mazza
I reworded it--see if you find it acceptable. We may need to compromise with you giving your interpretation in German and me giving mine in English. :) As for "you could also say that sending a message that contains soap content is a one way soap call even if no one listens for it", no, I w

Re: Using the SOAP DataFormat with JMS queues

2010-09-09 Thread Christian Schneider
Hi Glen, you can see it this way. On the other hand you could also say that sending a message that contains soap content is a one way soap call even if no one listens for it. As the call is asnychronous the caller will not know if anyone listens to the call anyway ;-) Regards Christian A

Re: Using the SOAP DataFormat with JMS queues

2010-09-09 Thread Glen Mazza
It is only a SOAP call if a web service is listening on that queue, correct? And if no web service is listening there, then it's just a simple matter of an XML message (that just happens to be a SOAP call) being sent to the queue, correct again? OK, I'll update the SOAP page (or you may do so

Re: Using the SOAP DataFormat with JMS queues

2010-09-09 Thread Christian Schneider
Hi Glen, at my employer we are hosting the complete web services using jms instead of http. So if you have a webservice listening on the jms queue you can make soap calls using the soap dataformat. CXF also provides SOAP / JMS. We even have services running on tibco business works that can be

Re: Using the SOAP DataFormat with JMS queues

2010-09-08 Thread Willem Jiang
Hi Glen, I think it's 2, the dataformat just marshal the request into a soap envelop and store it into a jms queue. Willem On 9/9/10 8:54 AM, Glen Mazza wrote: Hello, another question on the SOAP DataFormat text. In the "Using the Java DSL" section[1], the example given is as follows: Soap

Using the SOAP DataFormat with JMS queues

2010-09-08 Thread Glen Mazza
Hello, another question on the SOAP DataFormat text. In the "Using the Java DSL" section[1], the example given is as follows: SoapJaxbDataFormat soap = new SoapJaxbDataFormat("com.example.customerservice", new ServiceInterfaceStrategy(CustomerService.class)); from("direct:start") .mar