Hi, thanks for your reply! Camel is just great framework and your book is "a must" resource for Camel user (says ex Mule user).
Still I'd like to insist to hear your opinion: when do we not need to use blueprint osgi? It seems to me that if you use current version of Fuse, you can't but use osgi (and blueprint with that). OK. Karaf is new kind of server which takes its learnging effort and it is worth it. (I know about your RedHat backround :). rg Camel User ________________________________ Lähettäjä: Claus Ibsen-2 [via Camel] [ml-node+s465427n5754285...@n5.nabble.com] Lähetetty: 23. heinäkuuta 2014 11:09 Vastaanottaja: Unto Valkonen Aihe: Re: What would be the benefits of running Camle on osgi? Ups meant to add OSGi in there as well > Well IMHO a big part of f the learning curve is IMHO and the fact that Karaf is a new kind of application server, that most people have not used before. Should be Well IMHO a big part of f the learning curve is OSGi and the fact that Karaf is a new kind of application server, that most people have not used before. On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 10:03 AM, Claus Ibsen <[hidden email]<UrlBlockedError.aspx>> wrote: > On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 9:21 AM, user3152723 > <[hidden email]<UrlBlockedError.aspx>> wrote: >> Tank you for the answers! >> >> I can now see that I mixed up names and things and frameworks. Fuse is based >> on Karaf; when you start (RedHat) Fuse you meet Karaf console. >> >> And about testing Camel "osgi-blueprint" routes: Check Camel in Action: in >> the osgi example of the book, there is not even test-folder in the project. >> All other examples in the book (as in Camel docs) are effectively spring >> tests plain. (OK, example is about using osgi, not testing osgi. But then >> the book is missing a chapter "testing with osgi".) >> > > When the book was authored there was no easy way of doing unit testing > with OSGi. > > The camel-test-blueprint module was introduced from Camel 2.10 > onwards. And the book was printed when Camel 2.5.0 was the latest. > > The newer book > http://www.packtpub.com/apache-camel-developers-cookbook/book > > has also a testing chapter, and a section about testing blueprint routes. > > >> So there seems to be quite a "learning curve" when starting to use Fuse. But >> interesting challenge to meet :). >> > > Well IMHO a big part of f the learning curve is IMHO and the fact that > Karaf is a new kind of application server, that most people have not > used before. > > That is all going to chance in fabric8 1.1 onwards, where you have a > lot more freedom and choices. For example you can use well known > containers such as Apache Tomcat, Wildfly, Jetty, Spring Boot, or > whatever. And just do development without OSGi such as plain WAR / > spring / CDI / or whatever. > > Here is a blog and video post showing fabric8 with Apache Tomcat > http://www.christianposta.com/blog/?p=393 > > JBoss Fuse 6.2 will include latest fabric8 release as well. > > > > > > > > >> >> rg, >> full time Camel User >> >> >> >> -- >> View this message in context: >> http://camel.465427.n5.nabble.com/What-would-be-the-benefits-of-running-Camle-on-osgi-tp5754201p5754278.html >> Sent from the Camel - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > > -- > Claus Ibsen > ----------------- > Red Hat, Inc. > Email: [hidden email]<UrlBlockedError.aspx> > Twitter: davsclaus > Blog: http://davsclaus.com > Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen > hawtio: http://hawt.io/ > fabric8: http://fabric8.io/ -- Claus Ibsen ----------------- Red Hat, Inc. Email: [hidden email]<UrlBlockedError.aspx> Twitter: davsclaus Blog: http://davsclaus.com Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen hawtio: http://hawt.io/ fabric8: http://fabric8.io/ ________________________________ If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion below: http://camel.465427.n5.nabble.com/What-would-be-the-benefits-of-running-Camle-on-osgi-tp5754201p5754285.html To start a new topic under Camel - Users, email ml-node+s465427n46542...@n5.nabble.com To unsubscribe from Camel - Users, click here<http://camel.465427.n5.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=unsubscribe_by_code&node=465428&code=dW50by52YWxrb25lbkBmaWZ0aGVsZW1lbnQuZml8NDY1NDI4fC0xNjkxNTczNjI4>. NAML<http://camel.465427.n5.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=macro_viewer&id=instant_html%21nabble%3Aemail.naml&base=nabble.naml.namespaces.BasicNamespace-nabble.view.web.template.NabbleNamespace-nabble.view.web.template.NodeNamespace&breadcrumbs=notify_subscribers%21nabble%3Aemail.naml-instant_emails%21nabble%3Aemail.naml-send_instant_email%21nabble%3Aemail.naml> -- View this message in context: http://camel.465427.n5.nabble.com/VS-What-would-be-the-benefits-of-running-Camle-on-osgi-tp5754288.html Sent from the Camel - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
