Re: DP performance

2005-12-02 Thread Sascha Wildner
Matthew Dillon wrote: Well, if you think they're so provably wrong you are welcome to put forth an actual technical argument to disprove them, rather then throw out derogatory comments which contain no data value whatsoever. I've done my best to explain the technical issues to

Re: Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle *groan*

2005-12-02 Thread Hiten Pandya
Matthew Dillon wrote: :Emiel Kollof wrote: : That and 15 seconds seems a bit too long. Know of any hardware that actually : needs that long to settle in? (and don't you guys go dig up the most : antiquated SCSI peripherals that actually do need 15 seconds ;) ) If yes, : I'll just shut up

Re: DP performance

2005-12-02 Thread Hiten Pandya
You obviously did not research on who Matthew Dillon is, otherwise you would know that he has plenty of real world experience. The guy wrote a packet rate controller inspired by basic laws of physics, give him credit instead of being rude. Time will tell whether he was wrong about his arguments

Re: Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle *groan*

2005-12-02 Thread Wade
On 02/12/05, Emiel Kollof [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: See subject for a pet peeve I've had for a while... Might it be an idea to copy FreeBSD here and shorten that to, say, 5 seconds by default? I know it's tunable, but it will shorten boot times a bit for people that are too lazy like me :)

Re: Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle *groan*

2005-12-02 Thread Marcin Jessa
On Fri, 2 Dec 2005 19:47:52 +0800 Wade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 02/12/05, Emiel Kollof [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: See subject for a pet peeve I've had for a while... Might it be an idea to copy FreeBSD here and shorten that to, say, 5 seconds by default? I know it's tunable, but it will

Re: startx does nothing

2005-12-02 Thread Tomaž Borštnar
Erik P. Skaalerud pravi: I know that there are workarounds for this in sshd, but that wasnt really the point. My question is why the internal resolver uses such an absurd timeout on resolving. 20 seconds per nameserver and multiply that by number of them. Usually 2-3 so 40 to 60 secs. Tomaž

Re: why do you use DragonFly? (writing an article)

2005-12-02 Thread Tomaž Borštnar
Jeremy C. Reed pravi: I am working on an article about DragonFly. If you'd like to help by providing a quote or more, please let me know off-list. Why do you use DragonFly? Because we trust Matt ever since Amiga days :) What did you use before DragonFly? *BSD (mostly FreeBSD). What

Re: Call for pkgsrc testing

2005-12-02 Thread walt
On Wed, 30 Nov 2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, since now most parts of KDE and Gnome compile, please try it (esp. the binary packages for easier reproducability) and report problems. Locations of the packages can be found on the download page :-) I notice your DragonFly patches for

Re: Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle *groan*

2005-12-02 Thread joerg
On Thu, Dec 01, 2005 at 09:09:36PM -0500, Justin C. Sherrill wrote: The Super Wonderful Best Solution would be to automatically remove that delay if there aren't any SCSI devices in the system. I don't know how you'd automatically determine that, but it would be a great fix, rather than a

Re: Call for pkgsrc testing

2005-12-02 Thread joerg
On Fri, Dec 02, 2005 at 05:08:40AM -0800, walt wrote: On Wed, 30 Nov 2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, since now most parts of KDE and Gnome compile, please try it (esp. the binary packages for easier reproducability) and report problems. Locations of the packages can be found on

Re: DP performance

2005-12-02 Thread Garance A Drosihn
At 6:48 PM -0800 12/1/05, Danial Thom wrote: --- Matthew Dillon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: : [various observations based on years of : real-world experience, as anyone could : find out via a competent google search] ..., and you also obviously have no practical experience with heavily

Re: add /usr/pkg/xorg/lib to /etc/defaults/rc.conf:ldconfig_paths ?

2005-12-02 Thread joerg
On Fri, Dec 02, 2005 at 12:14:45PM -0500, Bob Bagwill wrote: Would it be reasonable to add /usr/pkg/xorg/lib to ldconfig_paths in /etc/defaults/rc.conf now? Do I need to submit a patch? Thanks. NO. NO. Please read the archives for the reason. Joerg

Re: DP performance

2005-12-02 Thread Danial Thom
--- Hiten Pandya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You obviously did not research on who Matthew Dillon is, otherwise you would know that he has plenty of real world experience. The guy wrote a packet rate controller inspired by basic laws of physics, give him credit instead of being rude.

Re: DP performance

2005-12-02 Thread Matthew Dillon
:All of the empirical evidence points to Matt :being wrong. If you still can't accept that then :DFLY is more of a religion than a project, which :is damn shame. : :DT Well, again, all I can say is that if 'all of the empirical evidence' points to me being wrong, I welcome actually

Re: DP performance

2005-12-02 Thread Erik Wikström
On 2005-12-02 19:16, Danial Thom wrote: All of the empirical evidence points to Matt being wrong. If you still can't accept that then DFLY is more of a religion than a project, which is damn shame. DT Since I don't know anything about networking at GigE-speed I find this whole diskussion

Re: DP performance

2005-12-02 Thread Hiten Pandya
Dude, if you have made and are making millions of benjamins, I don't a person in his right mind would be spending his time arguing Gig-E performance speeds on a mailing list for a beta-quality OS. :-) If I was a person that made millions, I would definitely be planning on buying an AMG

Re: DP performance

2005-12-02 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
Danial Thom wrote: cut I, on the other hand, have made millions of $$ designing and selling network equipment based on unix-like OSes, so I'm not only qualified to cut What company? Your name doesn't ring a bell to me. -- mph

Re: DP performance

2005-12-02 Thread talon
Hiten Pandya wrote: You obviously did not research on who Matthew Dillon is, otherwise you would know that he has plenty of real world experience. The guy wrote a packet rate controller inspired by basic laws of physics, give him credit instead of being rude. Time will tell whether he was

Donations

2005-12-02 Thread Joseph Garcia
I have two computers that I'm willing to donate to the cause. They're PIII systems about 1GHz each on AOpen AX34 and AOpen AX34 II motherboards. They each have fxp cards in them as well. They're okay machines. They're not the fastest machines out there, but maybe someone can make use of

Re: recommend kvm switch

2005-12-02 Thread Joseph Garcia
I have used the following switch with both DragonFlyBSD, FreeBSD, and WindowsXP (on the same switch) at work without any problems. http://www.iogear.com/main.php?loc=productItem=GCS84B I have an older IOGear KVM switch at home that I have used with FreeBSD, OpenBSD, and WindowsXP (on the

Re: recommend kvm switch

2005-12-02 Thread Freddie Cash
The nice thing about IOGear KVM's is that they come with cables and are at a decent price. The one I have at home cost me about 150 bucks but that was about 2-3 years ago. They cost much less these days, though. Seems like alot of people here have had good luck with Belkin. Personally, I