Crater being upgraded - cvsup will be down for an hour or two

2008-08-31 Thread Matthew Dillon
cvsup access will be down for the next hour or two while crater is being upgraded. I'm moving the cvs repository around a little to make room for a GIT and SVN mirror. -Matt

Re: New mirroring tool / cvsup alternative

2008-06-10 Thread Vincent Stemen
put up > >> a simple web page for *mirror*. > >> > >> http://hightek.org/mirror > > > > In the process of updating our dcvs repository today with *mirror* and > > thinking about how nice it is to not be dependent on cvsup, I checked > > our web si

Re: Cvsup kernel source only?

2008-04-08 Thread Sascha Wildner
Sascha Wildner wrote: Replace 'dragonfly-cvs-src' with 'dragonfly-src-sys' in the supfile you're using. Should have been: Replace 'dragonfly-cvs-src' with 'dragonfly-cvs-sys'... Sascha -- http://yoyodyne.ath.cx

Re: Cvsup kernel source only?

2008-04-08 Thread Sascha Wildner
Andre LeClaire wrote: Hello, everyone! With the idea of creating a custom router, I've installed DragonFly on an older laptop with limited resources (1GB flash drive), and wonder if it's possible to build a custom kernel by cvsup-ing the kernel source only? This was possible with

Re: Cvsup kernel source only?

2008-04-07 Thread Chris Turner
Andre LeClaire wrote: cvsup-ing the kernel source only? This was possible with FreeBSD 4*, but all the info I've found describes getting the entire source tree for Dragonfly, which wouldn't fit in the space available. Thanks! Andre just do a regular CVS checkout.. e.g. 'co

Re: rsync vs. cvsup benchmarks

2008-01-31 Thread Bill Hacker
Chris Turner wrote: I have some benchmark test results comparing rsync to cvsup. okay.. so like: you'd think with all of these repository copies flying around, there'd be a lot less flaming and a lot more coding going on.. enough! sheesh.. You people are making me wan

Re: rsync vs. cvsup benchmarks

2008-01-31 Thread Chris Turner
I have some benchmark test results comparing rsync to cvsup. ... okay.. so like: you'd think with all of these repository copies flying around, there'd be a lot less flaming and a lot more coding going on.. enough! sheesh.. You people are making me want to write this email IN

Re: rsync vs. cvsup benchmarks

2008-01-31 Thread Bill Hacker
Simon 'corecode' Schubert wrote: Garance A Drosihn wrote: Just use rsync, and shut up about it already. What are you people blabering about? Fair question, simple answer. Not wanting to throw a useful tool out on specious grounds. > cvsup SUCKS. Not my field of expertise. G

Re: rsync vs. cvsup benchmarks

2008-01-30 Thread Simon 'corecode' Schubert
Garance A Drosihn wrote: Just use rsync, and shut up about it already. What are you people blabering about? cvsup SUCKS. not the idea, but the language it is implemented in. and cvsup inherits the suckage. as simple as that. if it was written in a portable language, nobody would bother

Re: rsync vs. cvsup benchmarks

2008-01-30 Thread Garance A Drosihn
At 4:38 PM -0600 1/30/08, Vincent Stemen wrote: That's a good point. It is possible that cvsup would fair better with a matching sup directory. I actually forgot about cvsup keeping that separate state directory when I ran the benchmarks. However, from my viewpoint that does not inval

Re: rsync vs. cvsup benchmarks

2008-01-30 Thread Vincent Stemen
On Wed, Jan 30, 2008 at 09:54:29AM +, Rahul Siddharthan wrote: > As I understand, cvsup maintains state between updates using checkout > files in a separate "sup" directory. If you are missing that > directory, or it does not correspond to your "aged" tree, cvs

Re: rsync vs. cvsup benchmarks

2008-01-30 Thread Garance A Drosihn
At 6:38 AM + 1/30/08, Vincent Stemen wrote: My conclusions: === The results are dramatic, with rsync performing hundreds of percent faster on average while only loading the processor on the client side a little over a third as much as cvsup. Either the performance claims about

Re: rsync considered superior (was: Re: rsync vs. cvsup benchmarks)

2008-01-30 Thread Rahul Siddharthan
tory. To download, yes, to update, that's not so clear. To repeat my earlier mail: Vincent appears only to have installed a tarball of recent (but not current) sources and used cvsup / rsync to update them. But to operate efficiently, cvsup needs checkout files, which it would have only if it w

Re: rsync vs. cvsup benchmarks

2008-01-30 Thread Simon 'corecode' Schubert
Justin C. Sherrill wrote: The only minor thing I'd bring up is that I recall one reason for cvsup is that rsync placed a relatively higher load per client on the server. That needs to be established. We already heard that cvsup - contrary to claims - is not competitive with rsync, o

Re: rsync vs. cvsup benchmarks

2008-01-30 Thread Justin C. Sherrill
On Wed, January 30, 2008 1:38 am, Vincent Stemen wrote: > > I have some benchmark test results comparing rsync to cvsup. I did 12 > client side tests over the last week. 5 against TheShell.com, 3 against > AllBSD.org, and 4 against chlamydia.fs.ei.tum.de. All tests were >

rsync considered superior (was: Re: rsync vs. cvsup benchmarks)

2008-01-30 Thread Simon 'corecode' Schubert
Hello Vincent, Vincent Stemen wrote: The results are dramatic, with rsync performing hundreds of percent faster on average while only loading the processor on the client side a little over a third as much as cvsup. Either the performance claims about cvsup being faster than rsync are based on

Re: rsync vs. cvsup benchmarks

2008-01-30 Thread Rahul Siddharthan
Vincent Stemen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I have some benchmark test results comparing rsync to cvsup. I did 12 client >side tests over the last week. 5 against TheShell.com, 3 against AllBSD.org, >and 4 against chlamydia.fs.ei.tum.de. All tests were mirroring the Dragon

rsync vs. cvsup benchmarks

2008-01-29 Thread Vincent Stemen
I have some benchmark test results comparing rsync to cvsup. I did 12 client side tests over the last week. 5 against TheShell.com, 3 against AllBSD.org, and 4 against chlamydia.fs.ei.tum.de. All tests were mirroring the DragonFly BSD source repository. The tests were done with various aged

Re: cvsup: theshell.com missing dragonfly-cvs-doc

2008-01-22 Thread Vincent Stemen
On 2008-01-23, Peter Avalos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Jan 22, 2008 at 11:41:20PM +, Vincent Stemen wrote: >> Any idea why cvsup.theshell.com is missing the dragonfly-cvs-doc collecti= > on? >>=20 >> I get >> Server message: Unknown collection "dragonfly-cvs-doc" >>=20 >> The doc

Re: cvsup: theshell.com missing dragonfly-cvs-doc

2008-01-22 Thread Peter Avalos
On Tue, Jan 22, 2008 at 11:41:20PM +, Vincent Stemen wrote: > Any idea why cvsup.theshell.com is missing the dragonfly-cvs-doc collection? > > I get > Server message: Unknown collection "dragonfly-cvs-doc" > > The doc directory is there via rsync. It is not missing from other > servers s

cvsup: theshell.com missing dragonfly-cvs-doc

2008-01-22 Thread Vincent Stemen
Any idea why cvsup.theshell.com is missing the dragonfly-cvs-doc collection? I get Server message: Unknown collection "dragonfly-cvs-doc" The doc directory is there via rsync. It is not missing from other servers such as cvsup.dragonflybsd.org and cvsup.allbsd.org.

Re: rsync and new mirroring tool (was cvsup)

2008-01-22 Thread Matthew Dillon
:Yah. Please let's do a round robin entry to all cvsup mirrors. : :cheers : simon Unfortunately it isn't safe to do that because the mirrors will be slightly out of sync with each other. You would confuse the hell out of cvsup if you ran it at the wrong time. It&#

Re: rsync and new mirroring tool (was cvsup)

2008-01-22 Thread Simon 'corecode' Schubert
a round robin entry to all cvsup mirrors. cheers simon -- Serve - BSD +++ RENT this banner advert +++ASCII Ribbon /"\ Work - Mac +++ space for low €€€ NOW!1 +++ Campaign \ / Party Enjoy Relax | http://dragonflybsd.org Against HTML \ Dude 2c 2 th

Re: rsync and new mirroring tool (was cvsup)

2008-01-22 Thread Dave Hayes
Matthew Dillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > #2. It's ok for crater to be listed, but it should be commented out > for now. Manual use of crater is fine, its the automatic cron jobs > that I'd like to avoid :-) Hrm... > cd /usr/share/examples/cvsup >

Re: rsync and new mirroring tool (was cvsup)

2008-01-21 Thread Matthew Dillon
:Understood. I suspected something like that might be the case since it :was not in the download site list on dragonflybsd.org. That is why :I put it last :-). : :Mirror will use the first site in the list by default unless you specify :one of the others on the command line. For the default conf

Re: cvsup

2008-01-21 Thread Bill Hacker
Simon 'corecode' Schubert wrote: Bill Hacker wrote: *trimmed* The bottom line - viewing it not a a coder, which I haven't been for around 30 years - but as a Manager of scarce resources - primarily *time*, and not even my own in this case - is that: - Apparent: No readily available 'one si

Re: cvsup

2008-01-21 Thread Simon 'corecode' Schubert
walt wrote: Anyway, you created a DragonFly-git repo at http://repo.or.cz but it is out of date now. They do offer an automatic update service, which sounds very good: "In the mirror mode, we will check the remote repository at the URL you give us every hour and if we spot any changes, we will

Re: cvsup

2008-01-21 Thread walt
Simon 'corecode' Schubert wrote: .. Oh yes, everybody who EVER tried adding third party software to the repo, or rather kept maintaining it, has been swearing on CVS... Heh. That's ambiguous in colloquial English, which admittedly makes no sense and therefore is difficult to learn. You wanted

Re: rsync and new mirroring tool (was cvsup)

2008-01-21 Thread Peter Avalos
On Mon, Jan 21, 2008 at 09:00:31PM +, Vincent Stemen wrote: > > 1. Leave it last in the list and add what you said as a comment to >make it convenient for developers and mirrors who might need to >use it. > 2. Same as 1 but have crater commented out by default. > 3.

Re: rsync and new mirroring tool (was cvsup)

2008-01-21 Thread Vincent Stemen
On 2008-01-21, Simon 'corecode' Schubert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Vincent Stemen wrote: >> sites += crater.dragonflybsd.org::dragonfly_cvs > > could you please not mirror off crater? Matt's link is quite resource > constrained and should mainly be used for feeding mirrors and > developers. Ty

Re: cvsup

2008-01-21 Thread Matthew Dillon
:... :> Hmm, I haven't used mergemaster since the upgrade target went :> into /usr/src/Makefile to replace it. I'm mildly surprised to find it's :> still in the system, is it of any actual use ? : :Absolutely. There is no other way to merge config files, for instance :ssh, sshd, inetd, etc.

Re: cvsup

2008-01-21 Thread Simon 'corecode' Schubert
Bill Hacker wrote: >> I can't run a patch and work on a different issue >> myself - I'll mix both. Or I'll have to check out into another tree and >> lose the patch. > Indeed. And have to go find it and manually re-apply, and/or alter and > re-apply 'coz it no longer fits quite tha same on code t

Re: cvsup

2008-01-21 Thread Simon 'corecode' Schubert
Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: >>> Maybe you need to install from a CD to get this makefile? >> I guess so. Nothing does a make distribution except for mergemaster, >> and mergemaster doesn't merge /usr, I think. > Hmm, I haven't used mergemaster since the upgrade target went > into /usr/src/Make

Re: cvsup

2008-01-21 Thread Steve O'Hara-Smith
On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 13:59:12 +0100 "Simon 'corecode' Schubert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nicolas Thery wrote: > > Maybe you need to install from a CD to get this makefile? > > I guess so. Nothing does a make distribution except for mergemaster, > and mergemaster doesn't merge /usr, I think.

Re: cvsup

2008-01-21 Thread Bill Hacker
Simon 'corecode' Schubert wrote: Bill Hacker wrote: CVS has been the 'compromise' that is at least not harmful or overly demanding. CVS *is* harmful. To you, and other running experimental differences, perhaps so.. I can't run a patch and work on a different issue myself - I'll mix both.

Re: cvsup

2008-01-21 Thread Simon 'corecode' Schubert
this? >>> 1.10 IIRC. >> Eh? I thought that was a joke. There's no /usr/Makefile on this box >> (1.11.0-PREVIEW). > I'm pretty sure I used /usr/Makefile yesterday to run cvsup on a > 1.10.1 box. I don't have access to that box right now. I&

Re: cvsup

2008-01-21 Thread Simon 'corecode' Schubert
Bill Hacker wrote: > CVS has been the 'compromise' that is at least not harmful or overly > demanding. CVS *is* harmful. I can't run a patch and work on a different issue myself - I'll mix both. Or I'll have to check out into another tree and lose the patch. > Rather than 'nag' - set up what yo

Re: rsync and new mirroring tool (was cvsup)

2008-01-21 Thread Simon 'corecode' Schubert
Vincent Stemen wrote: > sites += crater.dragonflybsd.org::dragonfly_cvs could you please not mirror off crater? Matt's link is quite resource constrained and should mainly be used for feeding mirrors and developers. Typing in a shell with high latency sucks :) cheers simon

Re: cvsup

2008-01-21 Thread Bill Hacker
Simon 'corecode' Schubert wrote: Matthew Dillon wrote: One of the original reasons for using cvsup was so people could maintain local branches of the repository. I don't think people do this much anymore, if they do it all. Disk space is so cheap these days that k

Re: cvsup

2008-01-21 Thread Bill Hacker
Now, granted, we don't want people to be downloading a whole copy's worth of network bandwidth every day, but rsync is close enough that I just don't care. One of the original reasons for using cvsup was so people could maintain local branches of the repository. I don't

Re: cvsup

2008-01-21 Thread Nicolas Thery
; > > 1.10 IIRC. > > Eh? I thought that was a joke. There's no /usr/Makefile on this box > (1.11.0-PREVIEW). I'm pretty sure I used /usr/Makefile yesterday to run cvsup on a 1.10.1 box. I don't have access to that box right now. I'll check tonight. Maybe you need to install from a CD to get this makefile? Cheers, Nicolas

Re: cvsup

2008-01-21 Thread Matthias Schmidt
* Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 09:24:02 +0100 > "Nicolas Thery" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > 2008/1/21, Dave Hayes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Matthew Dillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > What, people didn't know we install a Makefile in /usr? Well, > > > > now you

Re: cvsup

2008-01-21 Thread Steve O'Hara-Smith
On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 09:24:02 +0100 "Nicolas Thery" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008/1/21, Dave Hayes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Matthew Dillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > What, people didn't know we install a Makefile in /usr? Well, > > > now you do! > > > > Er...maybe it's because I'm r

Re: cvsup

2008-01-21 Thread Petr Janda
> > People use git or hg nowadays :) I just can't stop nagging, it is > unbelievably useful, especially for team work. It's been now many times I heared great things about git, while I never personally used it, as I use rsync to keep my development projects syncronized. Why don't we switch to

Re: rsync and new mirroring tool (was cvsup)

2008-01-21 Thread Vincent Stemen
On 2008-01-21, Matthew Dillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We could just add rsync targets in our /usr/Makefile in addition to > all the cvsup/pkgsrc targets already in there. > > What, people didn't know we install a Makefile in /usr?

Re: cvsup

2008-01-21 Thread Nicolas Thery
2008/1/21, Dave Hayes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Matthew Dillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > What, people didn't know we install a Makefile in /usr? Well, now you > > do! > > Er...maybe it's because I'm running 1.8.2 that I don't see one in /usr? > When did you folks start doing this? 1.10

Re: cvsup

2008-01-21 Thread Simon 'corecode' Schubert
Matthew Dillon wrote: One of the original reasons for using cvsup was so people could maintain local branches of the repository. I don't think people do this much anymore, if they do it all. Disk space is so cheap these days that keeping a master sync copy and a separate on

Re: cvsup

2008-01-20 Thread Dave Hayes
Matthew Dillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > What, people didn't know we install a Makefile in /usr? Well, now you > do! Er...maybe it's because I'm running 1.8.2 that I don't see one in /usr? When did you folks start doing this? -- Dave Hayes - Consultant - Altadena CA, USA - [EMAIL

Re: cvsup

2008-01-20 Thread Matthew Dillon
ant people to be downloading a whole copy's worth of network bandwidth every day, but rsync is close enough that I just don't care. One of the original reasons for using cvsup was so people could maintain local branches of the repository. I don't think people do this mu

Re: cvsup

2008-01-20 Thread Matthew Dillon
We could just add rsync targets in our /usr/Makefile in addition to all the cvsup/pkgsrc targets already in there. What, people didn't know we install a Makefile in /usr? Well, now you do! -Matt

Re: cvsup

2008-01-19 Thread Vincent Stemen
Vincent Stemen wrote: >> Also, if nobody has written one or is working on one, I am considering = > writing >> a script to provide basic cvsup like features/functionality for reposit= > ory >> updates via rsync. > > I'm not sure what you mean with that. Isn't

Re: cvsup

2008-01-19 Thread Justin C. Sherrill
On Sat, January 19, 2008 3:24 am, Vincent Stemen wrote: > The only actual comparison test results I have found so far, other than > what I posted, are from Justin Sherril, who posted some test > results on the dragonfly.users mailing list back in April of 2007 > indicating cvsup wa

Re: cvsup

2008-01-19 Thread Garance A Drosihn
At 8:24 AM + 1/19/08, Vincent Stemen wrote: Also, if nobody has written one or is working on one, I am considering writing a script to provide basic cvsup like features/functionality for repository updates via rsync. You might want to wait a bit. In freebsd-hackers, there's a thre

Re: cvsup

2008-01-19 Thread Simon 'corecode' Schubert
Vincent Stemen wrote: Also, if nobody has written one or is working on one, I am considering writing a script to provide basic cvsup like features/functionality for repository updates via rsync. I'm not sure what you mean with that. Isn't calling rsync enough? Maybe peopl

Re: cvsup

2008-01-19 Thread Vincent Stemen
On 2008-01-18, Bill Hacker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Vincent Stemen wrote: > > *snip* > >> >> Unless I am overlooking something obvious, > > It is not likely so many projects would be using cvsup for as long as > they have if the rsync advantage was t

Re: cvsup

2008-01-18 Thread Garance A Drosihn
At 9:16 AM + 1/18/08, Vincent Stemen wrote: I realize that everything I read comparing cvsup to rsync indicates that cvsup is faster with mirroring cvs repositories. So I decided to run my own tests this evening. I thought everybody might be interested in the results. My results are not

Re: cvsup

2008-01-18 Thread Vincent Stemen
On 2008-01-18, Simon 'corecode' Schubert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Vincent Stemen wrote: >> *** using cvsup >> >> cvsup -L 3 ./DragonFly-cvs-supfile 155.08s user 69.40s system 40% cpu >> 9:14.73 total > > I for sure didn't use cvsup f

Re: cvsup

2008-01-18 Thread Bill Hacker
Vincent Stemen wrote: *snip* Unless I am overlooking something obvious, It is not likely so many projects would be using cvsup for as long as they have if the rsync advantage was that great, or that simple [1]. Have you: A) compared the loads and bandwidth as well as the time on BOTH

Re: cvsup

2008-01-18 Thread Simon 'corecode' Schubert
Vincent Stemen wrote: *** using cvsup cvsup -L 3 ./DragonFly-cvs-supfile 155.08s user 69.40s system 40% cpu 9:14.73 total I for sure didn't use cvsup for a long time, but that seems quite long. This can happen for various reasons (just guesses): - CVSup not knowing certain

Re: cvsup

2008-01-18 Thread Vincent Stemen
ow many round trips it was needing. > >> As you can see, it took 9 seconds for a full download, but only less than 1.5 >> seconds to update them. That seems reasonably fast to me. Is cvsup really >> faster than that? I am sceptical that it could be much faster. > > Yes,

Re: cvsup

2008-01-16 Thread Joerg Sonnenberger
On Wed, Jan 16, 2008 at 02:35:48AM +, Vincent Stemen wrote: > I am not clear how to access it. Try something like the attached script. Joerg update.sh Description: Bourne shell script

Re: cvsup

2008-01-16 Thread Simon 'corecode' Schubert
of the sites say they only mirror _Daily snapshots and official ISOs_. The rsync link to the one you mentioned, *chlamydia.fs.ei.tum.de*, does take you to a web page that says they have the cvsup collections, but they do not provide the full path to access them via rsync. I guess you're expe

Re: cvsup

2008-01-15 Thread Peter Avalos
On Wed, Jan 16, 2008 at 03:22:26AM +, Vincent Stemen wrote: > > _TheShell.com_ is the only other one that lists *Code* under _Mirrored > Data_. Their rsync link takes you to > rsync://rsync.theshell.com/pub/DragonFly but there are no instructions > on the full path to access the repository.

Re: cvsup

2008-01-15 Thread Vincent Stemen
ites say they only mirror _Daily snapshots and official ISOs_. The rsync link to the one you mentioned, *chlamydia.fs.ei.tum.de*, does take you to a web page that says they have the cvsup collections, but they do not provide the full path to access them via rsync. _TheShell.com_ is the only other on

Re: cvsup

2008-01-15 Thread Vincent Stemen
On 2008-01-15, Joerg Sonnenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 10:23:27PM +, Vincent Stemen wrote: >> Is the repository available via rsync and, if not, I am curious as to >> why not? Rsync is robust, popular, portable, and written in C. > > Yes. Check the mirror list,

Re: cvsup

2008-01-15 Thread Simon 'corecode' Schubert
from different platform after all this time. Yes, not only you are upset about this. I found csup, a cvsup replacement written in C, only to discover it currently only supports what is called CVS mode, which means I cannot use it to download/update the repository. Plus there is do csupd, so for

Re: cvsup

2008-01-15 Thread Joerg Sonnenberger
On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 10:23:27PM +, Vincent Stemen wrote: > Is the repository available via rsync and, if not, I am curious as to > why not? Rsync is robust, popular, portable, and written in C. Yes. Check the mirror list, e.g. allbsd has it. Joerg

RE: comparing cvsup vs. rsync

2007-04-11 Thread Nigel Weeks
nt: Thursday, 12 April 2007 9:12 AM > To: users@crater.dragonflybsd.org > Subject: Re: comparing cvsup vs. rsync > > Nigel Weeks wrote: > > Just having an idea about this...are there any files in the source tree > that exceed 32kbytes? > > > > What if a database

Re: comparing cvsup vs. rsync

2007-04-11 Thread Simon 'corecode' Schubert
Nigel Weeks wrote: Just having an idea about this...are there any files in the source tree that exceed 32kbytes? What if a database solution were created to: Contain every version of every file of every branch in a nicely indexed database table The md5/sha256 of each entry mentioned above 512

RE: comparing cvsup vs. rsync

2007-04-11 Thread Nigel Weeks
users@crater.dragonflybsd.org > Subject: Re: comparing cvsup vs. rsync > > walt wrote: > > Linus avoided rsync in favor of http in 'git' because he thinks > > rsync is inherently unreliable. I have *no* idea if he is right or > > wrong in his opinions, but I figu

Re: comparing cvsup vs. rsync

2007-04-11 Thread Simon 'corecode' Schubert
walt wrote: Linus avoided rsync in favor of http in 'git' because he thinks rsync is inherently unreliable. I have *no* idea if he is right or wrong in his opinions, but I figure you guys will favor me with your own opinions on the subject. Possibly for transferring the git objects. They neve

Re: comparing cvsup vs. rsync

2007-04-11 Thread Emiel Kollof
On Wednesday 11 April 2007 05:14:43 walt wrote: > Yes, I'm way off topic here, and I apologize -- but I've seen your > posts in the 'git' mail-list and you've experimented with Hg, so I > know you have your own opinions on version control systems. > > Linus avoided rsync in favor of http in 'git'

Re: comparing cvsup vs. rsync

2007-04-10 Thread Matthew Dillon
are they u-w but g+w? my cvsup gets a little bit confused with that = :and resets permissions back, so there is always a back-and-forth between = :rsync and cvsup. setting "preserved" and not "umask=3D002" hopefully fix= :es that locally. : :cheers : simon This is a bug in

Re: comparing cvsup vs. rsync

2007-04-10 Thread walt
Simon 'corecode' Schubert wrote: > Matthew Dillon wrote: >> My only worry is figuring out how to run the rsync daemon safely. >> I'm a bit paranoid about running things on crater but I do agree >> that we would have to run the master rsync daemon there. > > You can run rsyncd from inet

Re: comparing cvsup vs. rsync

2007-04-10 Thread Simon 'corecode' Schubert
tion. however, i'll have to find out how to generate the supfile for cvsupd serving... okay, that doesn't work. cvsup changes the RCS files, so I can't simply cvsup over them to generate a scan file :/ operation without scan file then. cheers simon -- Serve - BSD +++ RE

Re: comparing cvsup vs. rsync

2007-04-10 Thread Simon 'corecode' Schubert
flybsd.org::dragonfly_cvs/src/crypto/heimdal/Attic/ drwxrwxr-x1024 2005/03/28 05:35:43 . -r--rw-r-- 20313 2005/03/28 05:35:43 ChangeLog,v [..] -r-xrwxr-x3242 2005/03/28 05:35:43 compile,v why are they u-w but g+w? my cvsup gets a little bit confused with that and resets permissions

Re: comparing cvsup vs. rsync

2007-04-10 Thread Simon 'corecode' Schubert
Matthew Dillon wrote: I am now running an rsync server on crater.dragonflybsd.org, serving the cvs repository as 'dragonfly_cvs'. rsync -a rsync://crater.dragonflybsd.org/dragonfly_cvs blahblah very nice! will immediatelly switch to rsync operation. however, i'll have to find ou

Re: comparing cvsup vs. rsync

2007-04-10 Thread Matthew Dillon
I am now running an rsync server on crater.dragonflybsd.org, serving the cvs repository as 'dragonfly_cvs'. rsync -a rsync://crater.dragonflybsd.org/dragonfly_cvs blahblah -- Unfortunately I don't know how to get rsyncd to just log statistics on completion, and it insists

Re: comparing cvsup vs. rsync

2007-04-10 Thread Simon 'corecode' Schubert
Peter Hessler wrote: On 2007 Apr 10 (Tue) at 18:03:49 +0200 (+0200), Simon 'corecode' Schubert wrote: :cvsync does cvs-only (so, :like rsync), but it has a bug which breaks the RCS files in some cases. :The author didn't want to fix it though :/ Can you describe the bug? I've been using cvs

Re: comparing cvsup vs. rsync

2007-04-10 Thread Justin C. Sherrill
On Tue, April 10, 2007 11:32 am, Matthew Dillon wrote: > We could just distribute the CVS tree and write a front-end utility > in csh or sh that we distribute along with the rest of the system > to do the nitty gritty work of actually checking something out into > /usr/src. In fac

Re: comparing cvsup vs. rsync

2007-04-10 Thread Peter Hessler
On 2007 Apr 10 (Tue) at 18:03:49 +0200 (+0200), Simon 'corecode' Schubert wrote: :cvsync does cvs-only (so, :like rsync), but it has a bug which breaks the RCS files in some cases. :The author didn't want to fix it though :/ Can you describe the bug? I've been using cvsync for local copies of

Re: comparing cvsup vs. rsync

2007-04-10 Thread Simon 'corecode' Schubert
Dmitri Nikulin wrote: We could just distribute the CVS tree and write a front-end utility in csh or sh that we distribute along with the rest of the system to do the nitty gritty work of actually checking something out into /usr/src. In fact, I think that would be preferable. Ne

Re: comparing cvsup vs. rsync

2007-04-10 Thread Simon 'corecode' Schubert
Matthew Dillon wrote: My only worry is figuring out how to run the rsync daemon safely. I'm a bit paranoid about running things on crater but I do agree that we would have to run the master rsync daemon there. You can run rsyncd from inetd or standalone. If you're really[tm] parano

Re: comparing cvsup vs. rsync

2007-04-10 Thread Dmitri Nikulin
On 4/11/07, Matthew Dillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: We could just distribute the CVS tree and write a front-end utility in csh or sh that we distribute along with the rest of the system to do the nitty gritty work of actually checking something out into /usr/src. In fact, I thi

Re: comparing cvsup vs. rsync

2007-04-10 Thread Joerg Sonnenberger
On Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 08:32:55AM -0700, Matthew Dillon wrote: > My only worry is figuring out how to run the rsync daemon safely. > I'm a bit paranoid about running things on crater but I do agree > that we would have to run the master rsync daemon there. rsync allows running chroote

Re: comparing cvsup vs. rsync

2007-04-10 Thread Matthew Dillon
:I timed repeated retrievals of src from theshell.com over the past few :weeks, and here's the result. : :Retrieving all of src: :cvsup averaged about 11.5 minutes :rsync averaged about 19 minutes : :Retrieving only the last 24 hours of changes: :cvsup averaged about 18 se

comparing cvsup vs. rsync

2007-04-10 Thread Justin C. Sherrill
Since cvsup is somewhat of a hassle to build, discussion comes up from time to time about switching to rsync. Rsync is generally accepted as slower/more resource intensive, but how much hasn't been quantified. I wanted to look into this in as un-bikesheddy a way as possible... I timed rep

Re: obtaining kernel src with cvsup

2007-02-08 Thread Gergo Szakal
On Thu, 8 Feb 2007 12:57:44 -0600 "Mire, John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks, that bit of info seemed to escape me. > Damn, I've been using FBSD so long, I expect everything to be like it :( > By the by, > http://leaf.dragonflybsd.org/~justin/handbook/kernelconfig-building.html > was my r

Re: obtaining kernel src with cvsup

2007-02-08 Thread Gergo Szakal
/usr/src/sys/config -- Gergo Szakal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> University Of Szeged, HU Faculty Of General Medicine /* Please do not CC me with replies, thank you. */

RE: obtaining kernel src with cvsup

2007-02-08 Thread Mire, John
>On Wed, Feb 07, 2007 at 05:35:35PM -0600, John Mire wrote: >> how do I get the kernel src through cvsup? >> > >... > >> =used the following command to cvsup the most recent release src: >> >> cvsup -g -L 2 -h fred.acm.cs.rpi.edu >> /usr/s

RE: obtaining kernel src with cvsup

2007-02-08 Thread Mire, John
Thanks, guess you didn't read the diary entry for Tue Feb 6 08:19:03 CST 2007 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of walt Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 6:25 PM To: users@crater.dragonflybsd.org Subject: Re: obtaining kernel src with

Re: obtaining kernel src with cvsup

2007-02-07 Thread walt
John Mire wrote: > how do I get the kernel src through cvsup? > > > > here's my diaryfile: > > Thu Feb 1 02:50:54 CST 2007 > > =inital install from iso-image > > =setup the pkgsrc tree as per the Handbook: > > http://leaf.dragonflybsd.org/~

Re: obtaining kernel src with cvsup

2007-02-07 Thread Peter Avalos
On Wed, Feb 07, 2007 at 05:35:35PM -0600, John Mire wrote: > how do I get the kernel src through cvsup? > ... > =used the following command to cvsup the most recent release src: > > cvsup -g -L 2 -h fred.acm.cs.rpi.edu > /usr/share/examples/cvsup/DragonFly-release1_8-supfi

obtaining kernel src with cvsup

2007-02-07 Thread John Mire
how do I get the kernel src through cvsup? here's my diaryfile: Thu Feb 1 02:50:54 CST 2007 =inital install from iso-image =setup the pkgsrc tree as per the Handbook: http://leaf.dragonflybsd.org/~justin/handbook/pkgsrc-sourcetree-using.html # cd /usr/ # cvs -d [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cv

Re: about cvsup and supfile...

2006-11-17 Thread Erik Wikström
On 2006-11-17 18:32, Saverio Iacovelli wrote: I want update DFly with cvsup, but I want to optimize the upgrade operation. I don't want to upgrade all system, but only kernel and some application. 1 - Is it possible to set cvsup for thos operation? 2 - How can I find howto about supfile

about cvsup and supfile...

2006-11-17 Thread Saverio Iacovelli
I want update DFly with cvsup, but I want to optimize the upgrade operation. I don't want to upgrade all system, but only kernel and some application. 1 - Is it possible to set cvsup for thos operation? 2 - How can I find howto about supfile? Regards, Sa

Re: Spurious results from using cvsup?

2006-10-29 Thread Matthew Dillon
:I discovered that using cvsup on DF-current will give some :stragely wrong results while updating my pkgsrc tree, but :no error messages of any kind. : :One notable example: : : Checkout pkgsrc/misc/gnome-user-docs/DESCR : Checkout pkgsrc/misc/gnome-user-docs/Makefile : Checkout pkgsrc/misc

Spurious results from using cvsup?

2006-10-29 Thread walt
I discovered that using cvsup on DF-current will give some stragely wrong results while updating my pkgsrc tree, but no error messages of any kind. One notable example: Checkout pkgsrc/misc/gnome-user-docs/DESCR Checkout pkgsrc/misc/gnome-user-docs/Makefile Checkout pkgsrc/misc/gnome-user

Re: where is cvsup?

2006-10-08 Thread YONETANI Tomokazu
he csup source in contrib/csup directory in FreeBSD tree > > doesn't have the fix to queue.h, so it produces (unharmful) warnings. > > Now I see this: > > Updating collection dragonfly-cvs-src/cvs > Edit src/etc/defaults/periodic.conf > newphrase commitid ignored >

Re: where is cvsup?

2006-10-06 Thread Simon 'corecode' Schubert
On 06.10.2006, at 10:37, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: Last I checked csup didn't handle repository mode, there are alternatives to cvsup for repository copies - but when I used cvsync I wound up with a repository copy that missed some updates and rsync is slower and harder on t

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