Re: user/group admin tools

2005-09-10 Thread Liam J. Foy
On 18:58, Mon 29 Aug 05, Matthew Dillon wrote: > : > :Yeah, it is. However, Devon also mentioned we have lots of other > :things, such as vipw and chsh etc etc. What's the take on adding > :even more? > : > :-- > : - Liam J. Foy > > From the dicussion so far it looks like we want

Re: user/group admin tools

2005-08-30 Thread Devon H. O'Dell
On Wed, Aug 31, 2005 at 01:17:47AM +, Tom hummel wrote: > > : - Liam J. Foy > > > > From the dicussion so far it looks like we want these. We may not > > be able to immediately remove the old utilities, especially since I'm > > sure a lot of scripts use them, but the new

Re: user/group admin tools

2005-08-30 Thread Tom hummel
> : - Liam J. Foy > > From the dicussion so far it looks like we want these. We may not > be able to immediately remove the old utilities, especially since I'm > sure a lot of scripts use them, but the new ones have got a lot of > things going for them and I think we w

Re: user/group admin tools

2005-08-30 Thread Justin C. Sherrill
On Tue, August 30, 2005 4:32 am, Marcin Jessa said: > On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 17:10:19 -0700 > "Devon H. O'Dell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On Mon, Aug 29, 2005 at 05:03:14PM -0700, Devon H. O'Dell wrote: >> > The point of using tools named like this is that they're in NetBSD, >> > OpenBSD, Linux

Re: user/group admin tools

2005-08-30 Thread Marcin Jessa
On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 17:10:19 -0700 "Devon H. O'Dell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Aug 29, 2005 at 05:03:14PM -0700, Devon H. O'Dell wrote: > > The point of using tools named like this is that they're in NetBSD, > > OpenBSD, Linux and Solaris. > > > > --Devon > > Eh, and the purpose of re

Re: user/group admin tools

2005-08-29 Thread Matthew Dillon
: :Yeah, it is. However, Devon also mentioned we have lots of other :things, such as vipw and chsh etc etc. What's the take on adding :even more? : :-- : - Liam J. Foy From the dicussion so far it looks like we want these. We may not be able to immediately remove the old ut

Re: user/group admin tools

2005-08-29 Thread Liam J. Foy
On 02:30, Tue 30 Aug 05, Martin P. Hellwig wrote: > Liam J. Foy wrote: > > > > >Agreed. /me hates pw. I would just like these tools in, they're > >nicely documentated and easy to use in my opinion. > > > Yeah great, now I finally got a bit comfortable with pw they implement > something easier ;-)

Re: user/group admin tools

2005-08-29 Thread Justin C. Sherrill
On Mon, August 29, 2005 6:12 pm, Liam J. Foy said: > I have ported user* and group* tools from NetBSD. In my personal > experience and opinion I find them MUCH easier to use when > administrating users. They also contain functions which we > currently would have to manually edit /etc/master.passwd

Re: user/group admin tools

2005-08-29 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
Liam J. Foy wrote: Agreed. /me hates pw. I would just like these tools in, they're nicely documentated and easy to use in my opinion. Yeah great, now I finally got a bit comfortable with pw they implement something easier ;-) -- mph

Re: user/group admin tools

2005-08-29 Thread Liam J. Foy
On 17:03, Mon 29 Aug 05, Devon H. O'Dell wrote: > On Tue, Aug 30, 2005 at 12:55:35AM +0100, Liam J. Foy wrote: > > On 15:50, Mon 29 Aug 05, Matthew Dillon wrote: > > > > > > Just kidding. The utilities look fine. I particularly like the > > > idea of the -D option, which is to have the p

Re: user/group admin tools

2005-08-29 Thread Devon H. O'Dell
On Mon, Aug 29, 2005 at 05:03:14PM -0700, Devon H. O'Dell wrote: > The point of using tools named like this is that they're in NetBSD, > OpenBSD, Linux and Solaris. > > --Devon Eh, and the purpose of removing pw in favor of these tools is that pw was made in FreeBSD to emulate their functionality

Re: user/group admin tools

2005-08-29 Thread Devon H. O'Dell
On Tue, Aug 30, 2005 at 12:55:35AM +0100, Liam J. Foy wrote: > On 15:50, Mon 29 Aug 05, Matthew Dillon wrote: > > > > Just kidding. The utilities look fine. I particularly like the > > idea of the -D option, which is to have the program adjust the > > defaults via the config file ba

Re: user/group admin tools

2005-08-29 Thread Liam J. Foy
On 15:50, Mon 29 Aug 05, Matthew Dillon wrote: > > :... > : > :http://netbsd.gw.com/cgi-bin/man-cgi?useradd++NetBSD-current > : > :Also check userdel, usermod, groupadd and groupdel etc etc. > :Remember they also contain two other options which I wrote for > :NetBSD to temporary lock users and to

Re: user/group admin tools

2005-08-29 Thread Matthew Dillon
:... : :http://netbsd.gw.com/cgi-bin/man-cgi?useradd++NetBSD-current : :Also check userdel, usermod, groupadd and groupdel etc etc. :Remember they also contain two other options which I wrote for :NetBSD to temporary lock users and to force a new password to be :given at next login(usermod, userad

Re: user/group admin tools

2005-08-29 Thread Liam J. Foy
On 00:23, Tue 30 Aug 05, Simon 'corecode' Schubert wrote: > Liam J. Foy wrote: > >Comments/Productive criticism welcome, rants/flames, no =). > > show the diff so we can see what they are like :) > > cheers > simon > Instead of show the huge diff, why not just check: http://netbsd.gw.com/cg

Re: user/group admin tools

2005-08-29 Thread Simon 'corecode' Schubert
Liam J. Foy wrote: Comments/Productive criticism welcome, rants/flames, no =). show the diff so we can see what they are like :) cheers simon -- Serve - BSD +++ RENT this banner advert +++ASCII Ribbon /"\ Work - Mac +++ space for low $$$ NOW!1 +++ Campaign \ / Pa

user/group admin tools

2005-08-29 Thread Liam J. Foy
I have ported user* and group* tools from NetBSD. In my personal experience and opinion I find them MUCH easier to use when administrating users. They also contain functions which we currently would have to manually edit /etc/master.passwd for, such as the ability to force users to change their pas