Re: WS-* specification for transaction

2011-05-02 Thread yinzara
doing it the right way. Good luck making modifications to your 3000 "coarse grained services" when you need to add a single parameter across all of them when you could have wrote 6 fined grained services and integrated using distributed transactions. -- View this message in context:

Re: WS-* specification for transaction

2010-07-21 Thread Andrew Dinn
On 07/21/2010 02:30 PM, Daniel Kulp wrote: In general, most people that are familiar with it generally recommend refactoring the services to avoid the need for the distributed transactions entirely (coarser grained services work well). It generally simplifies things quite a bit, but also helps

Re: WS-* specification for transaction

2010-07-21 Thread Daniel Kulp
On Tuesday 20 July 2010 8:07:36 am Guy Pardon wrote: > Hi Anto, > > You can try this: http://www.atomikos.com/Main/ExtremeTransactions > > It includes an independent WS-AT implementation (in beta) that should work > in any JAXWS stack. That's really interesting. Good to know about. I'd real

Re: WS-* specification for transaction

2010-07-21 Thread Daniel Kulp
On Wednesday 21 July 2010 5:53:13 am Anto wrote: > Daniel Kulp wrote: > > WS-* stuff is always "on the roadmap", but whether they get implemented > > or not > > really depend on if someone steps up to do it (or if one of the companies > > that > > supports CXF has a paying customer that requires i

Re: WS-* specification for transaction

2010-07-21 Thread Guy Pardon
Hi, > Just curious, why no paying customers are not demanding it? We (Atomikos) had support for it in JAX-RPC days and now in JAX-WS precisely because we experience demand. > Is it that there > are other ways to implement transactions other than WS-* specs? Or is it not > a practical solution

RE: WS-* specification for transaction

2010-07-21 Thread Oliver Wulff
ed in an application container which supports local transaction. Thanks Oliver From: Sergey Beryozkin [sberyoz...@gmail.com] Sent: 21 July 2010 13:30 To: users@cxf.apache.org Subject: Re: WS-* specification for transaction Hi Oliver On Wed, Jul 21, 2010

Re: WS-* specification for transaction

2010-07-21 Thread Sergey Beryozkin
Hi Oliver On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 12:18 PM, Oliver Wulff wrote: > Hi Anto > > I know customers which use Web Services for about 9 years. They never had > the requirement for WS-Transaction support because you could sort this out > by the design of the service (WSDL) or they came to the conclusio

RE: WS-* specification for transaction

2010-07-21 Thread Oliver Wulff
from an enterprise architecture point of view. Thanks Oliver From: Anto [antopaul.l...@gmail.com] Sent: 21 July 2010 11:53 To: users@cxf.apache.org Subject: Re: WS-* specification for transaction Daniel Kulp wrote: > > WS-* stuff is always &quo

Re: WS-* specification for transaction

2010-07-21 Thread Andrew Dinn
On 07/20/2010 08:16 PM, Daniel Kulp wrote: On Tuesday 20 July 2010 8:04:59 am Anto wrote: Hi, Is there any way to use WS-* specifications related to transaction with CXF? Both client and server should take part in the transaction. Not built into CXF itself right now, no.I think JBoss

Re: WS-* specification for transaction

2010-07-21 Thread Andrew Dinn
On 07/21/2010 10:53 AM, Anto wrote: Just curious, why no paying customers are not demanding it? Is it that there are other ways to implement transactions other than WS-* specs? Or is it not a practical solution for transaction management? JBoss has had an XTS implementation for quite a few year

Re: WS-* specification for transaction

2010-07-21 Thread Anto
us, why no paying customers are not demanding it? Is it that there are other ways to implement transactions other than WS-* specs? Or is it not a practical solution for transaction management? Anto -- View this message in context: http://cxf.547215.n5.nabble.com/WS-specification-for-transaction-t

Re: WS-* specification for transaction

2010-07-20 Thread Guy Pardon
transaction with CXF? Both client and server should take part in the transaction. In CXF roadmap support for these specifications are included? Anto -- View this message in context: http://cxf.547215.n5.nabble.com/WS-specification-for-transaction-tp1618539p1618539.html Sent from the cxf-user

Re: WS-* specification for transaction

2010-07-20 Thread Daniel Kulp
On Tuesday 20 July 2010 8:04:59 am Anto wrote: > Hi, > > Is there any way to use WS-* specifications related to transaction with > CXF? Both client and server should take part in the transaction. Not built into CXF itself right now, no.I think JBoss had started some work in this area as

WS-* specification for transaction

2010-07-20 Thread Anto
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