Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: table: clipping of numbers: still helpless

2014-05-01 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Blimey, thanks :)) Looks like i am 2 for 2 today :)) Thanks and regards from Tom :) On 1 May 2014 15:31, william drescher wrote: > On 5/1/2014 9:02 AM, Tom Davies wrote: > >> Hi :) >> Does anyone know if there is some sort of buffer-zone between the edges of >> the cells and the contents

[libreoffice-users] Re: crash - crash - crash - crash. !@#$#@!

2014-05-01 Thread V Stuart Foote
Tom, Believe you REALLY should get off of the 4.2.x branch and move onto the 4.3 now in alpha. Devs have really put a lot of effort into exactly these issues for the 4.3 release. First 4.3 alpha pre-release is here: http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/pre-releases/win/x86/ or perhaps work with t

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: keyboard shortcut to navigate tables and now labels

2014-05-01 Thread Ruth Ann
On 5/1/2014 10:24 PM, anne-ology wrote: I agree that reaching for the mouse does interrupt work-flow for a lot of people. It's funny to see just how dependant people are on it and how resistant they are to learning to press tab and other other tricks which have often been around for decades Funn

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: keyboard shortcut to navigate tables and now labels

2014-05-01 Thread anne-ology
Yet those of us who grew up with typewriters, use that TAB - & shift-TAB - and the arrow keys rather than the mouse ;-) Remembering, all those folks who would say, when referring to these computers, "it's a passing fad" ;-) Do youngsters of t

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Intentionally crashing LibreOffice when frozen/LibreOffice will not start.

2014-05-01 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R_(programming_language) R is a free software programming language and software environment for statistical computing and graphics. Calc has a limit of one million rows (well, 1048576 if I remember correctly). I expect that you will not have this problem if you

Re: [libreoffice-users] crash - crash - crash - crash. !@#$#@!

2014-05-01 Thread Tom Cloyd
Progress report: I've installed Version: 4.2.3.3, Build ID: 882f8a0a489bc99a9e60c7905a60226254cb6ff0 I've had 5 "vector::_M_range_check" crashes in a row, in one of my large multi-sheet spreadsheet documents. What I'm trying to do that's causing the crashes is delete about 10 rows in a sheet

Re: [libreoffice-users] keyboard shortcut to navigate tables now forms

2014-05-01 Thread anne-ology
If it were otherwise, then each would not be editable ;-) But when the cursor is outside of any label then the arrow keys go from one to another, right? From: Ruth Ann Date: Thu, May 1, 2014 at 1:20 PM Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] keyboard shortcut to navigate tables now for

Re: [libreoffice-users] keyboard shortcut to navigate tables

2014-05-01 Thread anne-ology
The arrow keys work for me ... ok, that's technically not a short-cut ;-) but it keeps things simple ... that KISs idea ;-) PS - I see you're from Ohio; sure hope you & yours were able to avoid any problems from the storms passing your way. From: R

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: keyboard shortcut to navigate tables and now labels

2014-05-01 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Tab normally moves forwards and Shift and Tab should move backwards. It works in most forms, spreadsheets and in Writer tables too. The only time it doesn't work is in some Access forms or Reports where the designer hasn't realised the significance and assumes everyone uses a mouse. I agre

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: keyboard shortcut to navigate tables and now labels

2014-05-01 Thread Ruth Ann
Hey Mark, Thank you! That works great. Before, I had gotten as far as selecting the frame, but never thought of the tab key to move to the next frame. Being an old DOS person, I am lost without my keyboard shortcuts. Never did much like the mouse for this type of work - it seems like it constan

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: keyboard shortcut to navigate tables and now labels

2014-05-01 Thread libreoffice-ml . mbourne
Ruth Ann wrote: <<<+ cursor movements seem to advance from cell to cell in a Writer table, rather than word to word as in a paragraph. + takes you to first table cell. + + takes you to the last cell.>>> Thank you, Stuart, that does indeed work. Except I found that + U or D moves me from cell to

Re: [libreoffice-users] keyboard shortcut to navigate tables now forms

2014-05-01 Thread Ruth Ann
My apologies. I had asked about tables, and indeed, your information was very useful. Thank you. However, what I should have asked about was how to navigate on a page of labels. Sorry, I think when I look at the page, it looks like a table to me, so I think of it that way. But in reality, it i

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: keyboard shortcut to navigate tables and now labels

2014-05-01 Thread Ruth Ann
<<<+ cursor movements seem to advance from cell to cell in a Writer table, rather than word to word as in a paragraph. + takes you to first table cell. + + takes you to the last cell.>>> Thank you, Stuart, that does indeed work. Except I found that + U or D moves me from cell to cell while R

Re: [libreoffice-users] keyboard shortcut to navigate tables

2014-05-01 Thread Brian Barker
At 13:31 01/05/2014 -0400, Ruth Ann wrote: Is there a keyboard shortcut that will let me move from cell to cell in a table in Writer? I can not find any mention of one in the help section, and so far, the only way I know to move the cursor to the next cell is to use the mouse. Do the (four) k

Re: [libreoffice-users] keyboard shortcut to navigate tables

2014-05-01 Thread marianne-x
On 5/1/2014 1:31 PM, Ruth Ann wrote: Is there a keyboard shortcut that will let me move from cell to cell in a table in Writer? I can not find any mention of one in the help section, and so far, the only way I know to move the cursor to the next cell is to use the mouse. Ruth Ann, Cincinnati,

[libreoffice-users] Re: keyboard shortcut to navigate tables

2014-05-01 Thread V Stuart Foote
Ruth Ann wrote > Is there a keyboard shortcut that will let me move from cell to cell in > a table in Writer? I can not find any mention of one in the help > section, and so far, the only way I know to move the cursor to the next > cell is to use the mouse. > Ruth Ann, Cincinnati, OH USA Hmm,

[libreoffice-users] keyboard shortcut to navigate tables

2014-05-01 Thread Ruth Ann
Is there a keyboard shortcut that will let me move from cell to cell in a table in Writer? I can not find any mention of one in the help section, and so far, the only way I know to move the cursor to the next cell is to use the mouse. Ruth Ann, Cincinnati, OH USA -- *This e-mail is a natural

Re: [libreoffice-users] crash - crash - crash - crash. !@#$#@!

2014-05-01 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Ahh, yeh. The check for updates is probably checking the repos of your distro then or not really checking at all! Sorry about that! It does work if you do get the version from your package manager but i only do that on machines that are difficult for me to reach. Apols and regards from Tom

Re: [libreoffice-users] crash - crash - crash - crash. !@#$#@!

2014-05-01 Thread Tom Cloyd
On 05/01/2014 04:00 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: On 4/29/2014 6:21 PM, Tom Cloyd wrote: Everyday, I organize my life around two large LO spreadsheets. I'm running ver. 4.2.1.1. Since the last major update (ver. 4.2.1?), my day begins with a serious of crashes - only after I save both sheets (separatel

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Intentionally crashing LibreOffice when frozen/LibreOffice will not start.

2014-05-01 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) i assumed it is a 3rd party database program that contains the tables of data. Base is usually excellent at linking to such external databases. It seems to be the best way of using Base and the default way of using it. The idea is that Base then performs various functions through SQL code;

[libreoffice-users] Re: Intentionally crashing LibreOffice when frozen/LibreOffice will not start.

2014-05-01 Thread V Stuart Foote
Jacqueline Tarleton wrote > "But I am getting more comfortable with using R itself to answer these..." > > Excuse my ignorance - What is R? > > This particular Thread has provided amazing details on the limitations of > Libre Office Calc, tips, hints, and workarounds- except do not know what > is

[libreoffice-users] Re: table: clipping of numbers: still helpless

2014-05-01 Thread william drescher
On 5/1/2014 9:02 AM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Does anyone know if there is some sort of buffer-zone between the edges of the cells and the contents of that cell? In Writer i went to Table - Properties - Borders and found the "Spacing to contents" defaulted to 0.1cm. mine defaulted to 0.04 inches

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: table: clipping of numbers: still helpless

2014-05-01 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Does anyone know if there is some sort of buffer-zone between the edges of the cells and the contents of that cell? In Writer i went to Table - Properties - Borders and found the "Spacing to contents" defaulted to 0.1cm. William, i guess you might have tried that already but if not then doe

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Intentionally crashing LibreOffice when frozen/LibreOffice will not start.

2014-05-01 Thread Jacqueline Tarleton
"But I am getting more comfortable with using R itself to answer these..." Excuse my ignorance - What is R? This particular Thread has provided amazing details on the limitations of Libre Office Calc, tips, hints, and workarounds- except do not know what is R. I apologize in advance for not offer

[libreoffice-users] Re: table: clipping of numbers: still helpless

2014-05-01 Thread william drescher
On 4/30/2014 4:49 PM, James E Lang wrote: Does the silly form get submitted electronically or on paper? On paper. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: ht

Re: [libreoffice-users] crash - crash - crash - crash. !@#$#@!

2014-05-01 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) +1 To clarify: the higher that 3rd digit the more stable the release is (that is a bit of a simplification but it kinda works well). So if stability is the main issue then the 4.1.6 is better than the 4.2.1. The 1st and 2nd digits say more about features and advances in compatibility with

Re: [libreoffice-users] crash - crash - crash - crash. !@#$#@!

2014-05-01 Thread Tanstaafl
On 4/29/2014 6:21 PM, Tom Cloyd wrote: Everyday, I organize my life around two large LO spreadsheets. I'm running ver. 4.2.1.1. Since the last major update (ver. 4.2.1?), my day begins with a serious of crashes - only after I save both sheets (separately, of course) 6-12 times, each time after

Re: [libreoffice-users] Upgrade Problem on Windows

2014-05-01 Thread Tanstaafl
On 4/28/2014 3:16 PM, James E Lang wrote: No, Tom. It's not. I agree that this volume is full beyond any sane level. Then resign yourself to having a broken system, and eventually one that probably won't even boot soon. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.or

Re: [libreoffice-users] Tips of the week -help needed

2014-05-01 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) There is no list or form. It's just a document. You see words on the web-page? Some in different colours, some with different colour backgrounds? That is the document!! Weird isn't it! You can write straight into that page!! Regards from Tom :) On 1 May 2014 04:43, anne-ology wrote:

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Intentionally crashing LibreOffice when frozen/LibreOffice will not start.

2014-05-01 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I think it's the same with programmer training. Inevitably there are too many variables or unknown factors that rarely occur. One methodology to handle it is to "release early and release often" to get "more eyeballs on the code". Even if people can't see the code itself or don't bother to