Here's the deal - I can't restart apache service httpd restart or service httpd stop service httpd start
without manually first terminating a bunch of hung processes... # service httpd stop Shutting down httpd: [ OK ] # # service httpd start Starting httpd: (98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address [::]:443 no listening sockets available, shutting down Unable to open logs I then have to manually grep and kill -KILL (a regular SIGTERM won't work) each and every instance of httpd still running (which can be a considerable number, up to 100)... since I started the server this morning, there's only 2: apache 21670 0.9 3.8 122440 29912 ? S 10:48 1:36 /usr/sbin/httpd -f /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf -DAPACHE2 -DHAVE_AUTH_EXTERNAL -DHAVE_AUTH_MYSQL -DHAVE_DOSEVASIVE -DHAVE_PERL -DHAVE_PHP5 -DHAVE_SSL -DHAVE_SUEXEC -DHAVE_ACCESS -DHAVE_ACTIONS -DHAVE_ALIAS -DHAVE_ASIS -DHAVE_AUTH -DHAVE_AUTH_ANON -DHAVE_AUTH_DBM -DHAVE_AUTH_DIGEST -DHAVE_AUTOINDEX -DHAVE_CACHE -DHAVE_CASE_FILTER -DHAVE_CASE_FILTER_IN -DHAVE_CERN_META -DHAVE_CGI -DHAVE_CGID -DHAVE_CHARSET_LITE -DHAVE_DEFLATE -DHAVE_DIR -DHAVE_DISK_CACHE -DHAVE_DUMPIO -DHAVE_ENV -DHAVE_EXPIRES -DHAVE_EXT_FILTER -DHAVE_HEADERS -DHAVE_IMAP -DHAVE_INCLUDE -DHAVE_INFO -DHAVE_LOG_CONFIG -DHAVE_LOG_FORENSIC -DHAVE_LOGIO -DHAVE_MIME -DHAVE_MIME_MAGIC -DHAVE_NEGOTIATION -DHAVE_REWRITE -DHAVE_SETENVIF -DHAVE_SPELING -DHAVE_STATUS -DHAVE_UNIQUE_ID -DHAVE_USERTRACK -DHAVE_VHOST_ALIAS apache 21676 1.1 4.0 123928 31392 ? S 10:48 1:54 /usr/sbin/httpd -f /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf -DAPACHE2 -DHAVE_AUTH_EXTERNAL -DHAVE_AUTH_MYSQL -DHAVE_DOSEVASIVE -DHAVE_PERL -DHAVE_PHP5 -DHAVE_SSL -DHAVE_SUEXEC -DHAVE_ACCESS -DHAVE_ACTIONS -DHAVE_ALIAS -DHAVE_ASIS -DHAVE_AUTH -DHAVE_AUTH_ANON -DHAVE_AUTH_DBM -DHAVE_AUTH_DIGEST -DHAVE_AUTOINDEX -DHAVE_CACHE -DHAVE_CASE_FILTER -DHAVE_CASE_FILTER_IN -DHAVE_CERN_META -DHAVE_CGI -DHAVE_CGID -DHAVE_CHARSET_LITE -DHAVE_DEFLATE -DHAVE_DIR -DHAVE_DISK_CACHE -DHAVE_DUMPIO -DHAVE_ENV -DHAVE_EXPIRES -DHAVE_EXT_FILTER -DHAVE_HEADERS -DHAVE_IMAP -DHAVE_INCLUDE -DHAVE_INFO -DHAVE_LOG_CONFIG -DHAVE_LOG_FORENSIC -DHAVE_LOGIO -DHAVE_MIME -DHAVE_MIME_MAGIC -DHAVE_NEGOTIATION -DHAVE_REWRITE -DHAVE_SETENVIF -DHAVE_SPELING -DHAVE_STATUS -DHAVE_UNIQUE_ID -DHAVE_USERTRACK -DHAVE_VHOST_ALIAS this is on mandriva 2006 i can supply more detailed sysconfig / os info if desired Normally, this is just an annoyance, because the server itself is rarely if ever restarted, and for some reason, I don't encounter the problem immediately, so once I've stopped and started the server once, I can redo it several times while I'm tinkering, if I need to, without this problem. However, this morning, the server died at 3:06 a.m., and did not restart (some cron process, I'm sure)... [Mon Oct 02 03:06:50 2006] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] File does not exist: /var/www/html/ap2_snmp [Mon Oct 02 03:07:03 2006] [warn] child process 7923 still did not exit, sending a SIGTERM [Mon Oct 02 03:07:03 2006] [warn] child process 7919 still did not exit, sending a SIGTERM [Mon Oct 02 03:07:03 2006] [warn] child process 7921 still did not exit, sending a SIGTERM [Mon Oct 02 03:07:03 2006] [warn] child process 31079 still did not exit, sending a SIGTERM [Mon Oct 02 03:07:03 2006] [warn] child process 25984 still did not exit, sending a SIGTERM [Mon Oct 02 03:07:03 2006] [warn] child process 31896 still did not exit, sending a SIGTERM [Mon Oct 02 03:07:03 2006] [warn] child process 25510 still did not exit, sending a SIGTERM [Mon Oct 02 03:07:03 2006] [warn] child process 20737 still did not exit, sending a SIGTERM [Mon Oct 02 03:07:03 2006] [warn] child process 19403 still did not exit, sending a SIGTERM [Mon Oct 02 03:07:03 2006] [warn] child process 9412 still did not exit, sending a SIGTERM [Mon Oct 02 03:07:03 2006] [warn] child process 9414 still did not exit, sending a SIGTERM [Mon Oct 02 03:07:03 2006] [warn] child process 20741 still did not exit, sending a SIGTERM [Mon Oct 02 03:07:03 2006] [warn] child process 12175 still did not exit, sending a SIGTERM [Mon Oct 02 03:07:03 2006] [warn] child process 12176 still did not exit, sending a SIGTERM [Mon Oct 02 03:07:03 2006] [warn] child process 13142 still did not exit, sending a SIGTERM ... and the error log terminated right there... httpd was not running when a customer woke me up to tell me the web server wasn't responding... I've periodically dug through Google and other sites to determine if this is a known problem, and I've been unable to find anything that clearly points to the same problem, along with a resolution... any ideas on how to address this? Thomas --------------------------------------------------------------------- The official User-To-User support forum of the Apache HTTP Server Project. See <URL:http://httpd.apache.org/userslist.html> for more info. To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] " from the digest: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]