Re: Update: RE: are commitOffsets botched to zookeeper?

2013-05-17 Thread Scott Clasen
afaik you dont 'have' to store the consumed offsets in zk right, this is only automatic with some of the clients? why not store them in a data store that can write at the rate that you require? On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Withers, Robert wrote: > Update from our OPS team, regarding zookeep

Re: Update: RE: are commitOffsets botched to zookeeper?

2013-05-17 Thread Neha Narkhede
There is no particular need for storing the offsets in zookeeper. In fact with Kafka 0.8, since partitions will be highly available, offsets could be stored in Kafka topics. However, we haven't ironed out the design for this yet. Thanks, Neha On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 2:19 PM, Scott Clasen wrote:

Re: Update: RE: are commitOffsets botched to zookeeper?

2013-05-17 Thread Scott Clasen
to clarify, I meant that Robert could/should store the offsets in a faster store not that kafka should default to that :) Thanks Neha On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Neha Narkhede wrote: > There is no particular need for storing the offsets in zookeeper. In fact > with Kafka 0.8, since partiti

Re: Update: RE: are commitOffsets botched to zookeeper?

2013-05-17 Thread Alex Zuzin
Have you considered abstracting offset storage away so people could implement their own? Would you take a patch if I'd stabbed at it, and if yes, what's the process (pardon the n00b)? KCBO, -- "If you can't conceal it well, expose it with all your might" Alex Zuzin On Friday, May 17, 2013 at

Re: Update: RE: are commitOffsets botched to zookeeper?

2013-05-17 Thread Alex Zuzin
Neha, apologies, I just re-read what I sent and realized my "you" wasn't specific enough - it meant the Kafka team ;). -- "If you can't conceal it well, expose it with all your might" Alex Zuzin On Friday, May 17, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Alex Zuzin wrote: > Have you considered abstracting offset s

Re: Update: RE: are commitOffsets botched to zookeeper?

2013-05-20 Thread Neha Narkhede
No problem. You can take a look at some of the thoughts we had on improving the offset storage here - https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/Offset+Management. Suggestions are welcome. Thanks, Neha On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 2:40 PM, Alex Zuzin wrote: > Neha, > > apologies, I just re-r

Re: Update: RE: are commitOffsets botched to zookeeper?

2013-05-20 Thread Alex Zuzin
Did so. The proposal looks perfectly sensible on first reading. I understand that the patches in https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-657 are already in the trunk and scheduled for 0.8.1? Are they going out with 0.8? If not, what's ETA for 0.8.1? Either way, I'm going to try my hand at b

RE: Update: RE: are commitOffsets botched to zookeeper?

2013-05-20 Thread Rob Withers
Yes, it looks spot on. Thanks, rob > -Original Message- > From: Alex Zuzin [mailto:carna...@gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 11:37 AM > To: users@kafka.apache.org > Subject: Re: Update: RE: are commitOffsets botched to zookeeper? > > Did so. The proposal loo