On Sat, 2010-07-24 at 04:50 +, g wrote:
> if you are meaning 'windows', as in 'ms windows', bill gates stoled
> concept from 'apple computers'. plus there was a big stink about bg&c
> using exact same 'trash can' icon.
The aptly named WIMP interface predates both of them. Hint: Lisa.
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Tim wrote:
> The aptly named WIMP interface predates both of them. Hint: Lisa.
'apple lisa' is the system i was referencing to.
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On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 4:04 AM, g wrote:
> Tim wrote:
>
>
>> The aptly named WIMP interface predates both of them. Hint: Lisa.
>
> 'apple lisa' is the system i was referencing to.
The concept of having a "desktop" with "windows" was invented by Xerox
PARC in 1973 and implemented on the Alto c
On 07/24/2010 05:15 PM, Christofer C. Bell wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 4:04 AM, g wrote:
>
>> Tim wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> The aptly named WIMP interface predates both of them. Hint: Lisa.
>>>
>> 'apple lisa' is the system i was referencing to.
>>
> The concept of having
Tim:
>> The aptly named WIMP interface predates both of them. Hint: Lisa.
g:
> 'apple lisa' is the system i was referencing to.
A second hint: Xerox.
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I've finally managed to get F13 working properly on the new 2010 mac
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regarding SATA and HDMI audio which need to be resolved so I've put
together a short guide how to get Fedora 13 (x86_64) on the min
On Sat, 2010-07-24 at 16:23 +1000, Roger wrote:
> On 07/24/2010 01:32 PM, Nathan W wrote:
> > *snip*
> >
> >> I don't pretend to know what's coming, but I do know that
> >> when stuff is outside my house it can be priced annually, it can be
> >> arbitrarily withheld, it can be surveiled, it c
On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 8:09 AM, g wrote:
[snip]
I try that way, using Ctrl+shift keys
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On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 8:18 AM, g wrote:
> if 'pop up blocker' notice shows, hold down , , or key.
Pop up blocker is not the problem, but what the problem is, that it
shows "applet started" at the bottom of the table i join but the table
never gets started for playing!!
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On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 10:20 AM, g wrote:
> if you are meaning 'windows', as in 'ms windows', bill gates stoled
> concept from 'apple computers'. plus there was a big stink about bg&c
> using exact same 'trash can' icon.
>
> linux was not even around at that time.
Really, the battle of Windows
On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 12:21 PM, Thomas Taylor wrote:
> Hi, Parshwa;
Hello
> I've been following this thread for some time now. Had to go back to the
> original message since the responses seem to have covered about every topic
> except the original one. I'll asume you now have some kind of
On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 1:37 PM, Tim wrote:
> The aptly named WIMP interface predates both of them. Hint: Lisa.
Oh I see.
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On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 2:34 PM, g wrote:
> 'apple lisa' is the system i was referencing to.
Oh.
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On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 2:45 PM, Christofer C. Bell
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> The concept of having a "desktop" with "windows" was invented by Xerox
> PARC in 1973 and implemented on the Alto computer. That predates
> pretty much everything else being discussed here.
Ok, but the history is really very wide, in
On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 2:54 PM, Steve Underwood wrote:
> The concept of a "desktop" with "windows" dates back to the work of Doug
> Engelbart in the 50s and 60s, starting well before even a basic
> implementation was feasible. Look him up. He was a true visionary.
As I said, really history is
On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 2:58 PM, Tim wrote:
>>> The aptly named WIMP interface predates both of them. Hint: Lisa.
> g:
>> 'apple lisa' is the system i was referencing to.
> A second hint: Xerox.
Xerox Parc.
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On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Paolo Galtieri wrote:
> I have installed the Sun java jdk and linked the plugin library
>
> ln -s /usr/java/latest/jre/lib/amd64/libnpjp2.so
> /home/pgaltieri/.mozilla/plugins/libnpjp2.so
>
> I restarted firefox and accessed
>
> http://www.gokgs.com/applet.jsp
>
On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Mark Eggers wrote:
> I wonder if I can convince it to use a Sun-based plugin . . . .
Sun Java works very well in Fedora.
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On Sat, 2010-07-24 at 17:24 +0800, Steve Underwood wrote:
> The concept of a "desktop" with "windows" dates back to the work of
> Doug Engelbart in the 50s and 60s, starting well before even a basic
> implementation was feasible. Look him up. He was a true visionary.
We have him to blame for the
On Friday, July 23, 2010 11:00:55 pm charles zeitler wrote:
> Do what thou wilt
> shall be the whole of the Law.
>
> On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 8:18 PM, Ariful Hossain
wrote:
> > I am running fedora 13 with KDE desktop. When i change my display
> > settings it works but i have to change it again
Roger K. Wells saic.com> writes:
> ...
A message from the maintainer of PackageKit - fix on its way next week.
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On 07/24/2010 07:39 AM, Parshwa Murdia wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Mark Eggers wrote:
>
>
>> I wonder if I can convince it to use a Sun-based plugin . . . .
>>
>
> Sun Java works very well in Fedora.
>
> Regards,
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>
I have both IcedTea and the Sun Java
On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 8:33 PM, Tim wrote:
> We have him to blame for the mouse. Sorry, I just couldn't resist...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/1633972.stm
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On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 9:11 PM, Paolo Galtieri wrote:
> I have both IcedTea and the Sun Java SDKs installed in Firefox, and it's
> impossible to disable one of them. If I disable one firefox ends up
> disabling both. If I enable one firefox enables both. This seems very
> broken to me. In ch
My name is Robert and just thought id pop in to say, Fedora does
sometimes require a little tweaking but you have to keep in mind that
its made from millions of people things get overlooked sometimes and you
may need to download a couple plugins and such but in my experience its
a great platform t
FC13
Memory terms ??
I have a kit of 2 boards 2gb PC2 (2x1gb) , does that mean that the 2
boards are a total of 2gb with both boards installed ?
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On Saturday, July 24, 2010 12:19:15 pm binary...@comcast.net did opine:
> FC13
>
> Memory terms ??
>
> I have a kit of 2 boards 2gb PC2 (2x1gb) , does that mean that the 2
> boards are a total of 2gb with both boards installed ?
Generally yes, buit check with the motherboard manual to see wh
On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 10:28 PM, Robandapril wrote:
> My name is Robert and just thought id pop in to say, Fedora does
> sometimes require a little tweaking but you have to keep in mind that
> its made from millions of people things get overlooked sometimes and you
> may need to download a coupl
On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Parshwa Murdia wrote:
>
> Conclusion: Fedora is good.
>
It's nice to know that the reported death of fanboyism
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/the-age-of-the-fanboy-is-drawing-to-a-close/9017
is premature.
Fedora probably *isn't* the best choice for the av
On 07/24/2010 12:22 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Saturday, July 24, 2010 12:19:15 pm binary...@comcast.net did opine:
>
>>FC13
>>
>> Memory terms ??
>>
>> I have a kit of 2 boards 2gb PC2 (2x1gb) , does that mean that the 2
>> boards are a total of 2gb with both boards installed ?
> Generall
On Thu, 2010-07-22 at 20:01 +0530, Parshwa Murdia wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 8:01 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
>
> > Start with using the GUI apps, to get comfortable. Open Firefox and browse
> > the
> > web. Use mplayer/VLC/xine to watch videos, DVD's and stuff. Use
> > Amarok/XMMS/KSCD to
Parshwa Murdia wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 2:58 PM, Tim wrote:
>
The aptly named WIMP interface predates both of them. Hint: Lisa.
>
>> g:
>>> 'apple lisa' is the system i was referencing to.
>
>> A second hint: Xerox.
>
>
> Xerox Parc.
Xerox Parc, is actually _where_ Xerox Alto
Parshwa Murdia wrote:
> I try that way, using Ctrl+shift keys
excuse the way i typed that.
actual usage should be, a simultaneous key press and left mouse button click;
+click
or
+click
or
+click
each of which, is what i found to work and gave no pop-up notice window.
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Using 'crontab -e' I set crond to play an ogg music file with ogg123.
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How does one make it play even if a different user is logged in or
nobody is logged in?
To debug I tried su - to another user and play the file. I got error
ALSA lib pulse.c:229:(puls
Ariful Hossain wrote:
> This huge thread reminded me the first experience i had with linux.
'huge thread' is not a waste, as huge emails that do not get trimmed are.
thank you for giving consideration to doing so in future post. :)
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g wrote:
> Ariful Hossain wrote:
p.s.
your clock appears to be off.
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Hi,
I'm trying to set up a Windows 7 VM using KVM and the "Virtual Machine
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I'd like to either have the VM on the same network, or somehow
configure it so it has access to the resources (DNS, file shares, etc)
on that network.
H
Wait, I was called a fanboy?, I hardly think that is called for im
simply voicing my long standing support for Fedora. Its no big deal, im
not upset but all due respect im no fanboy i guess i was trying to
involve myself and it got worded wrong... i do that sometimes:)
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On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 5:22 PM, Robandapril wrote:
> Wait, I was called a fanboy?, I hardly think that is called for im
> simply voicing my long standing support for Fedora. Its no big deal, im
> not upset but all due respect im no fanboy i guess i was trying to
> involve myself and it got worded
On Sun, 25 Jul 2010, Ariful Hossain wrote:
> was a high school student and was excited about computers. After
> vandalizing the default windows installation( things like deleting files
> other then exe ones, as i thought the dont do anything.) one of my
> cuisine gave me a linux cd. After several
On Sat, 2010-07-24 at 07:36 -0600, Christopher A. Williams wrote:
> On Sat, 2010-07-24 at 16:23 +1000, Roger wrote:
> > On 07/24/2010 01:32 PM, Nathan W wrote:
> > > *snip*
> > >
> > >> I don't pretend to know what's coming, but I do know that
> > >> when stuff is outside my house it can be p
On Sat, 2010-07-24 at 12:55 -0700, Robert Arkiletian wrote:
> So I'm thinking it's the same infrastructure to prevent others music
> playing when you switch users. But in my case I *want* it to play. Any
> ideas?
/etc/security/console.perms.d/50-default.perms
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On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 07:07:34 +0530
Parshwa Murdia wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 5:32 AM, Roger wrote:
>
> > Not long ago someone wrote to me:
> > " If you have a working system and are happy with it then why
> > change it" For this reason I will stay with Fedora 11 until I have
> > unavoidab
Robert Arkiletian wrote:
> Any ideas?
'info nohup'?
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I normally leave a Gnome session running on my build machine for months
at a time, but don't always work directly on that machine (at it's
keyboard and monitor).
Sometimes I ssh into it remotely to look at progress from automated
builds, and occasionally to push out a build.
The issue is this: w
On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 10:53 PM, Robert Myers wrote:
> Fedora probably *isn't* the best choice for the average home user, but
> then you are apparently not the average home user.
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On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 1:23 AM, g wrote:
> Xerox Parc, is actually _where_ Xerox Alto, 1973, was developed.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xerox_Alto
>
> and had a good lead on Apple Lisa, 1983.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_lisa
>
>
> see also;
>
> old computers time line
> http:
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 12:38 AM, g wrote:
> excuse the way i typed that.
No probs.
> actual usage should be, a simultaneous key press and left mouse button click;
> +click
> or
> +click
> or
> +click
> each of which, is what i found to work and gave no pop-up notice window.
The P
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 1:32 AM, g wrote:
>
>> This huge thread reminded me the first experience i had with linux.
> 'huge thread' is not a waste, as huge emails that do not get trimmed are.
> thank you for giving consideration to doing so in future post. :)
It is good if we have only the pa
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 1:35 AM, g wrote:
> your clock appears to be off.
He might have left, :)!
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On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 2:02 AM, Michael Hennebry
wrote:
> You got a linux CD from your cream sauce?
> I didn't even know that a linux could get a circulatory disease.
Does this thread really belong to this particular topic the thread was
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On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 2:32 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> You're of course free to do so. Just realize the tradeoffs in no
> updates (especially security updates). ;)
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Parshwa Murdia wrote:
> The Pop-up notice is not a problem (this already being disabled from
> Preferences) but the main thing is that when I click on the 'Play'
> button, the new popped-up windows comes, but only the topmost banner
> is visible and not the game in reality, but only at the bottom
Parshwa Murdia wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 2:32 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
>
>> You're of course free to do so. Just realize the tradeoffs in no
>> updates (especially security updates). ;)
>
>
> But at least you are always much much secured than Windows.
depending how you have firewall setup
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 2:06 AM, Robert Myers wrote:
> Heavens. Everyone is so sensitive.
Majority might be sensitive.
> I was reacting to Parshwa Murdia's conclusion: Fedora is good.
But you cannot say that Fedora is bad!
> I've already been whacked on this list for suggesting:
> 1. Ub
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 6:37 AM, Ariful Hossain wrote:
[snip]
Good thread.
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[snip]
Good thread.
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Please look at:
https://sites.google.com/site/indiadoor/pogo-error
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On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 3:25 AM, g wrote:
Firewall problem is located at:
https://sites.google.com/site/indiadoor/firewall_error
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On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 3:25 AM, g wrote:
Never mind, the firewall error links is this one:
https://sites.google.com/site/indiadoor/firewall-error
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Parshwa Murdia wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 3:25 AM, g wrote:
>
>
> Firewall problem is located at:
>
> https://sites.google.com/site/indiadoor/firewall_error
was not aware you had firewall problems. my reply was meant to comment
made by Kevin Fenzi.
i clicked wrong post for reply.
inte
Parshwa Murdia wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 3:25 AM, g wrote:
>
>
> Never mind, the firewall error links is this one:
>
> https://sites.google.com/site/indiadoor/firewall-error
i believe you should start a new thread for firewall problems.
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To sum up this thread:
"I think cloud computing means Y, and Y is good because..."
"But I think cloud computing means X, and X is bad because..."
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On Saturday, July 24, 2010 06:49:31 pm g did opine:
> Parshwa Murdia wrote:
> > On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 2:32 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> >> You're of course free to do so. Just realize the tradeoffs in no
> >> updates (especially security updates). ;)
> >
> > But at least you are always much much s
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 3:57 AM, g wrote:
> is your post implying that you are having firewall problems?
Yes, I am really facing Firewall problem.
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On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 3:59 AM, g wrote:
> i believe you should start a new thread for firewall problems.
Already running, JB replied there but the problem persists.
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On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 4:24 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> FWIW, I do not run any firewalls on my local network. All the firewall I
> have needed for the last 2 or 3 years has been in my router. No one has
> gotten through it that I did not give the passwd to. I used to watch the
> logs, but watchi
On 24Jul2010 12:55, Robert Arkiletian wrote:
| Using 'crontab -e' I set crond to play an ogg music file with ogg123.
| But it only plays it if I'm logged in.
| How does one make it play even if a different user is logged in or
| nobody is logged in?
Can you show us exactly what command you used?
> Can I just point out quickly here that Fedora is probably not a proper
> distribution for home use?... I love it, personally, but I'm a Linux
> administrator.
>
> You'd probably be much better off with ... Ubuntu (free)
Why is it important that we cater to the Ubuntu crowd? Fedora leads the wa
On 07/22/2010 04:36 AM, Neal Becker wrote:
I'm trying to view this:
http://blip.tv/file/3900047/
I think I have all relevant software installed, but it doesn't work. Tried
both chrome-unstable and firefox.
Work for you?
Works fine on:
Fedora 12
Linux poirot 2.6.32.16-141.fc12.i686.P
On 07/23/2010 01:26 PM, Genes MailLists wrote:
> On 07/23/2010 01:08 PM, g wrote:
>
>>
>>> Ttry installing the stock fedora versions of TB and enigmail (from rpm
>>> fusion repo) and see if those help
>
> Typo/simple mistake - meant lightning which is in fedora repo not rpm
> fusion.
>
> An
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 3:05 AM, Philip A. Prindeville
wrote:
> I normally leave a Gnome session running on my build machine for months
> at a time, but don't always work directly on that machine (at it's
> keyboard and monitor).
>
> Sometimes I ssh into it remotely to look at progress from automa
On 07/25/2010 04:36 AM, Robert Myers wrote:
> Heavens. Everyone is so sensitive.
>
> I was reacting to Parshwa Murdia's conclusion: Fedora is good.
I suspect most people don't like labels being applied to them simply
because their opinions differ.
> 1. Ubuntu is probably a better choice for the
On 07/25/2010 06:40 AM, Michael Semcheski wrote:
> To sum up this thread:
>
> "I think cloud computing means Y, and Y is good because..."
>
> "But I think cloud computing means X, and X is bad because..."
You forgot
"I think cloud computing means Y, and Y is bad because..."
.
:-)
-
On 07/25/2010 05:47 AM, Parshwa Murdia wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 2:02 AM, Michael Hennebry
> wrote:
>
>> You got a linux CD from your cream sauce?
>> I didn't even know that a linux could get a circulatory disease.
>
>
> Does this thread really belong to this particular topic the thread wa
On 7/24/2010 7:16 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 07/25/2010 05:47 AM, Parshwa Murdia wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 2:02 AM, Michael Hennebry
>> wrote:
>>
>> [...]
>>
> What is wrong with it? It is just a bit of shared humor. Don't tell me
> you don't find things a bit funny on thi
On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 10:05:10 +0800
Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 07/25/2010 04:36 AM, Robert Myers wrote:
>>> snip
> I've not used Ubuntu in a while. Can't quite get used to the "Debian"
> way. But, if I recall there was no additional "rpmfusion" type of
> repository to enable. So, the type of use
On 07/25/2010 10:35 AM, Carroll Grigsby wrote:
>> > Yeah, but I like to pick the undergarments my wife wears... :-)
>
> That's rather ambiguous. For whom are you chosing this apparel?
>
ROTFL That's a good question I'll leave it up to the
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On 07/24/2010 10:09 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 07/25/2010 06:40 AM, Michael Semcheski wrote:
>> To sum up this thread:
>>
>> "I think cloud computing means Y, and Y is good because..."
>>
>> "But I think cloud computing means X, and X is bad because..."
>
> You forgot
>
> "I think cloud comp
On Sat, 2010-07-24 at 13:46 -0700, Les wrote:
> On Sat, 2010-07-24 at 07:36 -0600, Christopher A. Williams wrote:
> > ...So does this also mean you have the same inherent distrust for that
> > private internal cloud? You know the one that sits inside of your house
> > and that you control?
> >
>
Hi,
I have loaded Fedora13 without a hitch and am impressed by the
improvements!
However, I am just now beginning Java programming and I am wondering
if there is any substantial difference between java-1.6.0-openjdk and
the sun jdk.
If I decide to remove the openjava and work only wit
>However, I am just now beginning Java programming and I am wondering
> if there is any substantial difference between java-1.6.0-openjdk and
> the sun jdk.
As a beginning programmer, no. The differences are highly technical in nature
and do not show themselves early on in your endeavor as
FC13
Anyone using DD-WRT and connecting with FC13 and WPA2 ?
What is Maxium character size used on WPA2 .
I have been all over the DD-WRT Wiki and can't find that info.
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On 24/07/10 21:20, Alex wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm trying to set up a Windows 7 VM using KVM and the "Virtual Machine
> Manager" application. My existing internal network is 192.168.1.0/24.
> I'd like to either have the VM on the same network, or somehow
> configure it so it has access to the resources (
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