On Sun, 2010-08-29 at 01:49 -0400, David wrote:
Is it possible to make a deltaiso without having both the older ISO and
the Newer ISO on a local system.
Example. Fedora-14-Alpha-x86_64-Live.iso was downloaded. A
Fedora-14-Alpha-2-x86_64-Live.iso is availible for download.
Can a deltaiso
On Sunday, August 29, 2010 01:32:34 James McKenzie wrote:
One thing is that if you expect the police on your doorstop, you are
screwed anyway. There is NO truly secure method, other than complete
pulverization, to destroy disk data.
Whenever I see a statement like this (and this isn't the
Tom Horsley horsley1953 at gmail.com writes:
So, I just noticed that /dev/shm is 4 gig on my system
with 8 gig of main memory. Does fedora always just automatically
take half the memory for /dev/shm (I've never seen it say
more than 1% was in use, so I'm not sure why it thinks
it needs
There is NO truly secure method, other than complete pulverization, to
destroy disk data.
Format the hd with DOS 3.1 or 5 that'll get rid of everything.
And if unsure after that format to ext2.. everything gone.
Roger
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James McKenzie jjmckenzi...@earthlink.net wrote:
One thing is that if you expect the police on your doorstop, you are
screwed anyway. There is NO truly secure method, other than complete
pulverization, to destroy disk data.
That depends on how good
On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 07:46:49 +0100,
Marko Vojinovic vvma...@gmail.com wrote:
Starting from the premise that every hard disk has in principle limited
capacity to store data, one can always fill it up completely, then rewrite it
completely again. I see no way of the old data being
On 29 Aug 2010 at 3:16, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
Date sent: Sun, 29 Aug 2010 03:16:28 -0500
From: Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to
To: Marko Vojinovic vvma...@gmail.com
Subject:Re: Scrub free disk blocks
Copies to:
On 8/29/2010 2:30 AM, Jonathan Dieter wrote:
On Sun, 2010-08-29 at 01:49 -0400, David wrote:
Is it possible to make a deltaiso without having both the older ISO and
the Newer ISO on a local system.
Example. Fedora-14-Alpha-x86_64-Live.iso was downloaded. A
Fedora-14-Alpha-2-x86_64-Live.iso
Hi,
Can the dev team make it easier to install Fedora 14
when Windows is already installed on the same hard drive?
To be honest I use Ubuntu 10.04 and it does this automatically
when installing(it shrinks Windows partition during install)
I installed F13 on a hard drive with Windows XP on it
Dear Zoltan Hoppar,
Thank you for your reply but it doesn't work :(
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In any case, if someone wants your data that bad, it is time to dig out
the old sledgehammer and physically destroy the disk. Otherwise, scrub
and other secure erasure programs should be sufficient.
Programs that just write over the data a few times may or may not help
but you never know. A
On Sun, 2010-08-29 at 06:51 -0400, David wrote:
On 8/29/2010 2:30 AM, Jonathan Dieter wrote:
On Sun, 2010-08-29 at 01:49 -0400, David wrote:
Is it possible to make a deltaiso without having both the older ISO and
the Newer ISO on a local system.
Example. Fedora-14-Alpha-x86_64-Live.iso
2010/8/29 Alan Cox a...@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk:
--SNIP--
Modern drives support a secure erase/wipe feature (see hdparm). It's
probably the best option you get short of doing what probably would have
been smartest - encrypting it at install time ;)
--SNIP--
Alan
I always wondered would drive
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On 8/29/2010 8:05 AM, Jonathan Dieter wrote:
On Sun, 2010-08-29 at 06:51 -0400, David wrote:
On 8/29/2010 2:30 AM, Jonathan Dieter wrote:
On Sun, 2010-08-29 at 01:49 -0400, David wrote:
Is it possible to make a deltaiso without having both the
On Sun, 2010-08-29 at 07:21 -0400, Jesse Palser wrote:
Can the dev team make it easier to install Fedora 14
when Windows is already installed on the same hard drive?
For that, gparted is required. I don't know why Fedora doesn't have
this but Ubuntu does. To get Fedora 13 working on my new
On Sun, 2010-08-29 at 08:05 -0600, Greg Woods wrote:
On Sun, 2010-08-29 at 07:21 -0400, Jesse Palser wrote:
Can the dev team make it easier to install Fedora 14
when Windows is already installed on the same hard drive?
For that, gparted is required. I don't know why Fedora doesn't have
On 08/29/2010 04:05 PM, Greg Woods wrote:
On Sun, 2010-08-29 at 07:21 -0400, Jesse Palser wrote:
Can the dev team make it easier to install Fedora 14
when Windows is already installed on the same hard drive?
For that, gparted is required. I don't know why Fedora doesn't have
this but Ubuntu
On 8/29/2010 10:05 AM, Greg Woods wrote:
On Sun, 2010-08-29 at 07:21 -0400, Jesse Palser wrote:
Can the dev team make it easier to install Fedora 14
when Windows is already installed on the same hard drive?
For that, gparted is required. I don't know why Fedora doesn't have
this but
On 08/29/2010 04:09 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
On 08/29/2010 04:05 PM, Greg Woods wrote:
On Sun, 2010-08-29 at 07:21 -0400, Jesse Palser wrote:
Can the dev team make it easier to install Fedora 14
when Windows is already installed on the same hard drive?
For that, gparted is required. I
On 08/29/2010 10:10 AM, David wrote:
What Windows release? Starting with XP Windows comes with a disk
partitioning tool included and installed by default.
I think some may be missing the OP point.
They are probably asking if anaconda can make it an easy option - if
the only partition
On 08/29/2010 07:52 AM, Genes MailLists wrote:
On 08/29/2010 10:10 AM, David wrote:
What Windows release? Starting with XP Windows comes with a disk
partitioning tool included and installed by default.
I think some may be missing the OP point.
They are probably asking if anaconda
On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Hiisi very-c...@rambler.ru wrote:
2010/8/29 Alan Cox a...@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk:
--SNIP--
Modern drives support a secure erase/wipe feature (see hdparm). It's
probably the best option you get short of doing what probably would have
been smartest - encrypting it
On 8/29/2010 10:52 AM, Genes MailLists wrote:
On 08/29/2010 10:10 AM, David wrote:
What Windows release? Starting with XP Windows comes with a disk
partitioning tool included and installed by default.
I think some may be missing the OP point.
I understood his point completely.
Hello,
With fedora 13, when I use Math:GSL, I get an error message:
Can't load '/usr/local/lib/perl5/auto/Math/GSL/Errno/Errno.so' for module
Math::GSL::Errno: /usr/local/lib/perl5/auto/Math/GSL/Errno/Errno.so:
cannot restore segment prot after reloc: Permission denied at
Patrick Dupre wrote:
Hello,
With fedora 13, when I use Math:GSL, I get an error message:
Can't load '/usr/local/lib/perl5/auto/Math/GSL/Errno/Errno.so' for
module
Math::GSL::Errno: /usr/local/lib/perl5/auto/Math/GSL/Errno/Errno.so:
cannot restore segment prot after reloc: Permission
Hi All,
I just installed Fedora 13 on my home system.
Previously I had Fedora 11 running there (and 13 on my laptop for quite some
time now).
My H/W configuration:
Shuttle, with Intel i915 chipset
Monitor: Dell P1110
Both F-11 and F-13 detect and use the intel x11 driver, and
On Sun, 29 Aug 2010, Rex Dieter wrote:
Patrick Dupre wrote:
Hello,
With fedora 13, when I use Math:GSL, I get an error message:
Can't load '/usr/local/lib/perl5/auto/Math/GSL/Errno/Errno.so' for
module
Math::GSL::Errno: /usr/local/lib/perl5/auto/Math/GSL/Errno/Errno.so:
cannot restore
Patrick Dupre wrote:
On Sun, 29 Aug 2010, Rex Dieter wrote:
Patrick Dupre wrote:
Hello,
With fedora 13, when I use Math:GSL, I get an error message:
Can't load '/usr/local/lib/perl5/auto/Math/GSL/Errno/Errno.so' for
module
Math::GSL::Errno:
David dgboles at gmail.com writes:
Is it possible to make a deltaiso without having both the older ISO and
the Newer ISO on a local system.
Example. Fedora-14-Alpha-x86_64-Live.iso was downloaded. A
Fedora-14-Alpha-2-x86_64-Live.iso is availible for download.
Can a deltaiso be made
On 08/29/2010 04:27 PM, Joachim Backes wrote:
On 08/29/2010 04:09 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
On 08/29/2010 04:05 PM, Greg Woods wrote:
On Sun, 2010-08-29 at 07:21 -0400, Jesse Palser wrote:
Can the dev team make it easier to install Fedora 14
when Windows is already installed on the same hard
Hey all,
I'm going a little off my rocker here trying to understand how to best
configure a 3-drive RAID5 array using the new Western Digital 4k sector
drives.
I've got 3xWD15EARS (1.5T 4k sector advanced format drives).
If I was using the drive as-is, my understanding is I should create a
On 29/08/10 18:42, Rex Dieter wrote:
Patrick Dupre wrote:
On Sun, 29 Aug 2010, Rex Dieter wrote:
Patrick Dupre wrote:
Hello,
With fedora 13, when I use Math:GSL, I get an error message:
Can't load '/usr/local/lib/perl5/auto/Math/GSL/Errno/Errno.so' for
module
Math::GSL::Errno:
On Sat, 2010-08-28 at 20:09 +0200, Zoltan Hoppar wrote:
Secondly - create an empty text file - named 'alsa-base.conf'
Third - For content insert this single line without quotes - ' options
snd-hda-intel position_fix=1' - and save it.
Fourth - place this file as root to /etc/modprobe.d
If you
On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 6:14 PM, Erik P. Olsen epod...@gmail.com wrote:
On 29/08/10 18:42, Rex Dieter wrote:
Patrick Dupre wrote:
On Sun, 29 Aug 2010, Rex Dieter wrote:
Patrick Dupre wrote:
Hello,
With fedora 13, when I use Math:GSL, I get an error message:
Can't load
I have a gateway M-6750 laptop which sports a
Marvell TopDog wifi chip. I have obtained the
latest drivers for this chip, and used ndiswrapper
to hook itself to the XP/Vista topdog driver, and
it at first appears to be working... although there
are crash data appearing in the log files but other
On Sunday, 29 August, 2010 @14:05 zulu, Greg Woods scribed:
On Sun, 2010-08-29 at 07:21 -0400, Jesse Palser wrote:
Can the dev team make it easier to install Fedora 14
when Windows is already installed on the same hard drive?
For that, gparted is required. I don't know why Fedora doesn't
On 08/29/2010 10:55 AM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
I have a gateway M-6750 laptop which sports a
Marvell TopDog wifi chip. I have obtained the
latest drivers for this chip, and used ndiswrapper
to hook itself to the XP/Vista topdog driver, and
it at first appears to be working... although
On 8/29/2010 12:39 PM, Andre Robatino wrote:
David dgboles at gmail.com writes:
Is it possible to make a deltaiso without having both the older ISO and
the Newer ISO on a local system.
Example. Fedora-14-Alpha-x86_64-Live.iso was downloaded. A
Fedora-14-Alpha-2-x86_64-Live.iso is
On Sun, 2010-08-29 at 21:56 +0300, Jonathan Dieter wrote:
The Fedora project (or an interested user) creates the deltaiso.
To clarify, this is theoretical. The Fedora project is *not* creating
official deltaisos right now. However, any deltaiso should build into a
byte-for-byte copy of the new
On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Jake Peavy djstu...@gmail.com wrote:
...
I have a feeling my array should perform much better than this and it's
probably because I haven't taken the 4k sector size into account and I'm
bleeding performance.
Can anyone comment? If I need to take the 4k
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On Sunday, August 29, 2010 09:16:28 Bruno Wolff III wrote:
On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 07:46:49 +0100,
Marko Vojinovic vvma...@gmail.com wrote:
Starting from the premise that every hard disk has in principle limited
capacity to store data, one can always fill it up completely, then
rewrite
David dgboles at gmail.com writes:
I think that I understand the principal behind this. Disk space nor
bandwidth are not problems for me. I was thinking of others that might
have a bandwidth/byte counter problem.
Explain to me just how downloading only a part of the new ISO, the
changes,
On Sunday, August 29, 2010 09:53:48 Michael D. Setzer II wrote:
Marko Vojinovic vvma...@gmail.com wrote:
Starting from the premise that every hard disk has in principle limited
capacity to store data, one can always fill it up completely, then
rewrite it completely again. I see no way
On Sunday, 29 August, 2010 @17:14 zulu, Erik P. Olsen scribed:
I would advise Patrick to disable Selinux. I've made that decision
long ago because it gives me more problems when enabled that I can
possibly solve. IMHO the user interface is so bad that selinux is
unuseable for an ordinary
On Sun, 2010-08-29 at 20:21 +0100, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
So if you want to be on a safe side, fill up the whole disk from /dev/random
over and over 20 times, and the original data will be completely gone. Even
for NSA friends. :-)
Best, :-)
Marko
Actually, the 'standard' safe
Should also mention that since the difference between zsync and deltaisos is
either downloading changed RPMs in full vs. using deltarpms on them, this means
that if both were provided, then people with either sufficiently fast
connections (meaning around 5 Mbits/s) or a very slow PC would be
On 08/29/2010 12:21 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
On Sunday, August 29, 2010 09:53:48 Michael D. Setzer II wrote:
Marko Vojinovicvvma...@gmail.com wrote:
Starting from the premise that every hard disk has in principle limited
capacity to store data, one can always fill it up completely,
2010/8/29 Andre Robatino robat...@fedoraproject.org:
--SNIP--
The performance of zsync vs. deltaisos varies from almost as good to much
worse,
depending on how many packages have changed between old and new ISOs. (For
example, going from Fedora (N-1) to Fedora N Alpha TC1, zsync is almost
More on this issue:
http://lwn.net/Articles/400746/
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All probably true, but I dread the day they decide to make SELinux
mandatory, and take away the ability to disable it (in the name of
security).
On 08/29/2010 01:44 PM, mike cloaked wrote:
With many selinux issues with a bit of effort and help from a few
experts the issues can often be
On 8/29/2010 2:56 PM, Jonathan Dieter wrote:
On Sun, 2010-08-29 at 14:29 -0400, David wrote:
I think that I understand the principal behind this. Disk space nor
bandwidth are not problems for me. I was thinking of others that might
have a bandwidth/byte counter problem.
Explain to me just
On 8/29/2010 3:14 PM, Andre Robatino wrote:
David dgboles at gmail.com writes:
I think that I understand the principal behind this. Disk space nor
bandwidth are not problems for me. I was thinking of others that might
have a bandwidth/byte counter problem.
Explain to me just how
On Sun, 29 Aug 2010, Rex Dieter wrote:
Patrick Dupre wrote:
On Sun, 29 Aug 2010, Rex Dieter wrote:
Patrick Dupre wrote:
Hello,
With fedora 13, when I use Math:GSL, I get an error message:
Can't load '/usr/local/lib/perl5/auto/Math/GSL/Errno/Errno.so' for
module
Math::GSL::Errno:
On Sun, 29 Aug 2010, Erik P. Olsen wrote:
On 29/08/10 18:42, Rex Dieter wrote:
Patrick Dupre wrote:
On Sun, 29 Aug 2010, Rex Dieter wrote:
Patrick Dupre wrote:
Hello,
With fedora 13, when I use Math:GSL, I get an error message:
Can't load
On Sun, 29 Aug 2010, mike cloaked wrote:
On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 6:14 PM, Erik P. Olsen epod...@gmail.com wrote:
On 29/08/10 18:42, Rex Dieter wrote:
Patrick Dupre wrote:
On Sun, 29 Aug 2010, Rex Dieter wrote:
Patrick Dupre wrote:
Hello,
With fedora 13, when I use Math:GSL, I get an
Hi
I needed to use wineconsole and after installing the latest available
packages (1.3.1-1) I got the following message when trying to start
wineconsole cmd:
err:wineconsole:WINECON_Fatal Couldn't find a decent font, aborting
Installing different fonts and export LANG= en_US.UTF-8 didn't help.
My laptop has ceased hibernating.
When I click on f=Leave=Hibernate
the sleep-moon starts flashing
and the small hyphen-like symbol on the top left comes on as usual,
but as far as I can see nothing is written to disk.
At this point it becomes impossible to communicate with the machine.
Joshua C. wrote:
Hi
I needed to use wineconsole and after installing the latest available
packages (1.3.1-1) I got the following message when trying to start
wineconsole cmd:
err:wineconsole:WINECON_Fatal Couldn't find a decent font, aborting
Installing different fonts and export LANG=
On 08/29/2010 03:35 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
My laptop has ceased hibernating.
When I click on f=Leave=Hibernate
the sleep-moon starts flashing
and the small hyphen-like symbol on the top left comes on as usual,
but as far as I can see nothing is written to disk.
At this point it becomes
2010/8/29 James McKenzie jjmckenzi...@earthlink.net:
Joshua C. wrote:
Hi
I needed to use wineconsole and after installing the latest available
packages (1.3.1-1) I got the following message when trying to start
wineconsole cmd:
err:wineconsole:WINECON_Fatal Couldn't find a decent font,
On 08/29/2010 08:27 AM, Patrick Dupre wrote:
With fedora 13, when I use Math:GSL, I get an error message:
Can't load '/usr/local/lib/perl5/auto/Math/GSL/Errno/Errno.so' for
module Math::GSL::Errno:
/usr/local/lib/perl5/auto/Math/GSL/Errno/Errno.so: cannot restore
segment prot after reloc:
Joshua C. wrote:
2010/8/29 James McKenzie jjmckenzi...@earthlink.net:
Joshua C. wrote:
Hi
I needed to use wineconsole and after installing the latest available
packages (1.3.1-1) I got the following message when trying to start
wineconsole cmd:
err:wineconsole:WINECON_Fatal
JD wrote:
My laptop has ceased hibernating.
When I click on f=Leave=Hibernate
the sleep-moon starts flashing
and the small hyphen-like symbol on the top left comes on as usual,
but as far as I can see nothing is written to disk.
At this point it becomes impossible to communicate with the
On Sun, 29 Aug 2010, Gordon Messmer wrote:
On 08/29/2010 08:27 AM, Patrick Dupre wrote:
With fedora 13, when I use Math:GSL, I get an error message:
Can't load '/usr/local/lib/perl5/auto/Math/GSL/Errno/Errno.so' for
module Math::GSL::Errno:
/usr/local/lib/perl5/auto/Math/GSL/Errno/Errno.so:
Hi,
- How can I change the highlighting of text using the mouse in a
Terminal to automatically copy without having to right-click then
Copy, and paste automatically by clicking the right-mouse button,
similar to how putty works?
Almost all X applications handle fast-paste, a simple yet
On 29 August 2010 17:18, Patrick Dupre pd...@york.ac.uk wrote:
On Sun, 29 Aug 2010, Gordon Messmer wrote:
On 08/29/2010 08:27 AM, Patrick Dupre wrote:
With fedora 13, when I use Math:GSL, I get an error message:
Can't load '/usr/local/lib/perl5/auto/Math/GSL/Errno/Errno.so' for
module
On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 9:46 PM, Sriranga(77yrsold) withblessi...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Dell optiplex-330 i have installed winXP sp3 on sata-0 and on sata-1 I
had installed Fedora 13 - Even though grub installed - unable to boot Fedora
13.
i have installed Ubuntu 10-04 easily installed within
On 08/29/2010 07:12 PM, Sriranga(77yrsold) wrote:
On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 9:46 PM, Sriranga(77yrsold)
withblessi...@gmail.com mailto:withblessi...@gmail.com wrote:
On Dell optiplex-330 i have installed winXP sp3 on sata-0 and on
sata-1 I had installed Fedora 13 - Even though
I would advise Patrick to disable Selinux. I've made that decision
long ago because it gives me more problems when enabled that I can
possibly solve. IMHO the user interface is so bad that selinux is
unuseable for an ordinary enduser.
So what is the purpose of SELinux ?
Theodore Tso
2010/8/30 James McKenzie jjmckenzi...@earthlink.net:
Joshua C. wrote:
2010/8/29 James McKenzie jjmckenzi...@earthlink.net:
Joshua C. wrote:
Hi
I needed to use wineconsole and after installing the latest available
packages (1.3.1-1) I got the following message when trying to start
On Mon, 30 Aug 2010 13:29:51 +0900, Takehiko Abe wrote:
I would advise Patrick to disable Selinux. I've made that decision
long ago because it gives me more problems when enabled that I can
possibly solve. IMHO the user interface is so bad that selinux is
unuseable for an ordinary
On Sun, 2010-08-29 at 23:35 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote:
My laptop has ceased hibernating.
When I click on f=Leave=Hibernate
the sleep-moon starts flashing
and the small hyphen-like symbol on the top left comes on as usual,
but as far as I can see nothing is written to disk.
At this point
I'm trying to install Fedora 13 over VNC [1], with TigerVNC on Windows as the
VNC client. In the middle, my connection dropped; when reconnecting, TigerVNC
tells me The server is already in use. Looking at the sources, it looks like
the XVnc thinks there's an active connection, and it looks
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