Re: Brasero to create video DVD?

2011-03-19 Thread Chris Smart
On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 3:39 PM, JD wrote: > Is it possible to combine 2 and 3 into a single invocation? > Most likely, but I was breaking out the steps for clarification of what's actually happening. > Also, perhaps the 4th step wold be better as: > > growisofs -dvd-compat -dvd-video -speed=2 -

Re: Brasero to create video DVD?

2011-03-19 Thread JD
On 03/19/2011 08:48 PM, Chris Smart wrote: > 2) Create DVD structure (this puts it into a directory called dvd): > dvdauthor --title --video=pal -o dvd -f mymovie.mpg > > 3) Create the DVD titles: > dvdauthor -o dvd -T Is it possible to combine 2 and 3 into a single invocation? Also, perhaps the 4

Re: Brasero to create video DVD?

2011-03-19 Thread JD
On 03/19/2011 08:32 PM, Alex wrote: > Hi, > >> I have not had any success creating video DVD's (from avi or mp4 >> etc) files >> using brasero. > Yes, to answer another post from this thread, I am indeed trying to > create a standard DVD movie from an AVI for an older regular DVD > player that

Re: System policy to shutdown as normal user?

2011-03-19 Thread Joe Zeff
On 03/19/2011 08:44 PM, Alex wrote: > How can I change the system policy to authorize a normal user to > shutdown the system without having to prompt for a password? /sbin/shutdown is world executable. Alas, it's only a link to /lib/ubstart/shutdown, which is only executable by root. Changing t

Re: Brasero to create video DVD?

2011-03-19 Thread Chris Smart
On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 2:32 PM, Alex wrote: > > Yes, to answer another post from this thread, I am indeed trying to > create a standard DVD movie from an AVI for an older regular DVD > player that doesn't directly play AVIs. > Here's how you can create a basic DVD (no editing and no DVD menu) fr

System policy to shutdown as normal user?

2011-03-19 Thread Alex
Hi, How can I change the system policy to authorize a normal user to shutdown the system without having to prompt for a password? Is this an selinux thing? The searching I've done seems to indicate this, but I can't find any definitive information on exactly how to do it. Thanks, Alex -- users m

Re: Brasero to create video DVD?

2011-03-19 Thread Alex
Hi, > I have not had any success creating video DVD's (from avi or mp4 > etc) files > using brasero. Yes, to answer another post from this thread, I am indeed trying to create a standard DVD movie from an AVI for an older regular DVD player that doesn't directly play AVIs. > I have had succe

Re: Missing volume applet?

2011-03-19 Thread Alex
Hi, >> These were all installed. When I run gnome-volume-control, it just >> prints a box that says "waiting for sound system to respond". Is it >> that it can't determine which is the proper sound card to use? >> > > Google search: waiting for sound system to respond > e.g. > Solution > Go to Sys

Re: How to compile a soft same as the version realeased by fedora?

2011-03-19 Thread JD
On 03/19/2011 08:03 PM, stan wrote: > On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 18:57:30 -0700 > JD wrote: > >> Very interesting. >> I have been building all my kernels with SMP disabled. >> To wit, Here are the relevant config options in my >> .config file for 2.6.38 (Mainline kernel), which I am >> now running: >> #

Re: How to compile a soft same as the version realeased by fedora?

2011-03-19 Thread stan
On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 21:57:01 -0400 Chris Tyler wrote: > The debug information should be automatically separated into a > -debuginfo package near the end of the build, leaving you with > stripped binaries. > > There are several causes of variations between the distribution builds > and what you g

Re: How to compile a soft same as the version realeased by fedora?

2011-03-19 Thread stan
On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 18:57:30 -0700 JD wrote: > Very interesting. > I have been building all my kernels with SMP disabled. > To wit, Here are the relevant config options in my > .config file for 2.6.38 (Mainline kernel), which I am > now running: > # > # Automatically generated make config: don't

Re: Reinstall sound on fc14?

2011-03-19 Thread Alex
Hi, >> Even though the hardware fixed it, this still seems to be a >> configuration error, unless only part of the sound chip is bad.  Are >> there any pin connections on the MB that need to be made in order to >> activate sound? They would be described in the manual that came with >> the MB. Beca

Re: How to compile a soft same as the version realeased by fedora?

2011-03-19 Thread JD
On 03/19/2011 06:24 PM, stan wrote: > On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 17:54:28 -0700 > Konstantin Svist wrote: > >> By default, both production and debug versions are built using the >> fedora method. At least that's the way the kernel .src package behaves > Found the cause. And your observation above seems

Re: Reinstall sound on fc14?

2011-03-19 Thread Alex
Hi, > I still think it might only be a configuration error.  In order to load > the driver, the sound device had to be queried, *and* had to respond, > and respond correctly, in order for the proper driver module to load, > which it did. Okay, I took the soundblaster card out and re-enabled the o

Re: How to compile a soft same as the version realeased by fedora?

2011-03-19 Thread JD
On 03/19/2011 05:49 PM, stan wrote: > On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 10:52:38 +0800 > GeeKer Wang wrote: > >> I tried to compile OpenSceneGraph-2.8.3-3.fc14.rpm software, and >> got a low efficient and large version of it. But the version from >> fedora-repo works well. >> eg. my version with frame rate

Re: How to compile a soft same as the version realeased by fedora?

2011-03-19 Thread JD
On 03/19/2011 04:02 PM, Konstantin Svist wrote: > On 03/19/2011 03:36 PM, stan wrote: >> On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 14:42:20 -0700 >> JD wrote: >> The -bp flag just unpacks the source so it can be examined or patches can be created. >>> Well, actually, -bp is for "prep"ing the source tree for

Re: (unknown)

2011-03-19 Thread Bill Davidsen
xinyou yan wrote: > I have a freebsd system. > In my computer /dev/sda10 is a freebsd slice. > > I use mount -t ufs /dev/sda10 /tmp > It fail. > > mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda10, > missing codepage or helper program, or other error > In some cases u

Re: How to compile a soft same as the version realeased by fedora?

2011-03-19 Thread JD
On 03/19/2011 03:36 PM, stan wrote: > On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 14:42:20 -0700 > JD wrote: > >>> The -bp flag just unpacks the source so it can be examined or >>> patches can be created. >> Well, actually, -bp is for "prep"ing the source tree for compilation. >> -bp will APPLY the patches (if they exist

Re: How to compile a soft same as the version realeased by fedora?

2011-03-19 Thread Chris Tyler
On Sat, 2011-03-19 at 18:24 -0700, stan wrote: > Found the cause. And your observation above seems to be correct. There > is a file in /usr/lib/rpm called rpmrc. That file has the compile flags > that rpmbuild uses. There is a -g on every one. So anything that is > built by rpmbuild with a defau

Re: problems at very early stage installing Fedora 15 alpha in Virtualbox 4.0.4/Mac OS X

2011-03-19 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2011-03-19 at 22:10 +, Linux_Sle wrote: > On 03/19/2011 10:29 AM, Sven Aluoor wrote: > > Hi > > > > I tried the install option "Install system with basic video driver" > > and the normal one. The problems accur before normal installer. See > > screen shot http://i.imgur.com/4GBKW.png >

Re: How to compile a soft same as the version realeased by fedora?

2011-03-19 Thread stan
On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 17:54:28 -0700 Konstantin Svist wrote: > By default, both production and debug versions are built using the > fedora method. At least that's the way the kernel .src package behaves Found the cause. And your observation above seems to be correct. There is a file in /usr/lib

Re: How to compile a soft same as the version realeased by fedora?

2011-03-19 Thread Konstantin Svist
On 03/19/2011 05:49 PM, stan wrote: > On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 10:52:38 +0800 > GeeKer Wang wrote: > >> I tried to compile OpenSceneGraph-2.8.3-3.fc14.rpm software, and >> got a low efficient and large version of it. But the version from >> fedora-repo works well. >> eg. my version with frame rate

Re: How to compile a soft same as the version realeased by fedora?

2011-03-19 Thread stan
On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 10:52:38 +0800 GeeKer Wang wrote: > I tried to compile OpenSceneGraph-2.8.3-3.fc14.rpm software, and > got a low efficient and large version of it. But the version from > fedora-repo works well. > eg. my version with frame rate < 10, while fedora-repo version with > frame

RE: qemu update for fc13 broken?

2011-03-19 Thread compdoc
>Bill Davidsen wrote: > I just installed the recent qemu update on my KVM server which hosts my VMs for > local services. I stopped all VMs, did the upgrade, and reboot. Now none of the > VMs respond to mouse or have sound. Does the keyboard work? Just curious - you run the vm from a command line

Re: [OT Humor] "Obviously designed by morons"

2011-03-19 Thread Alan Cox
> > Just like XFCE is included. > > I think you are missing the point. Packaging a desktop environment > when the upstream has deprecated it and packaging an alternate desktop > environment like XFCE which is niche but very active are very You think GNOME3 won't rapidly become "niche" ? I would

Re: [OT Humor] "Obviously designed by morons"

2011-03-19 Thread Alan Cox
On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 08:11:03 -0700 Joe Zeff wrote: > On 03/19/2011 07:30 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > * Not upgrade and see if a future revision is more palatable to you > > In other words, "We're the devs. We know what's right for Gnome and you > mere users don't." You are not required to r

Re: How to compile a soft same as the version realeased by fedora?

2011-03-19 Thread stan
On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 16:02:15 -0700 Konstantin Svist wrote: > I've used the kernel compilation procedure from the wiki page [1] but > the sizes of the binaries are larger than the distro sizes > > > [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/CustomKernel I've never compared them because I customi

Re: how to only allow tcp on dport 443 on the OUTPUT chain?

2011-03-19 Thread stan
On Tue, 08 Mar 2011 23:35:41 -0800 erikmccaskey64 wrote: > If i want to block udp on dport 80 on the output chain, then is this > enough? i want to only allow tcp on it! iptables -P OUTPUT DROP > iptables -A OUTPUT -o $PUBIF --dport 80 -j ACCEPT > > > or i need this rule? > iptables -P OUTPUT D

Re: How to compile a soft same as the version realeased by fedora?

2011-03-19 Thread Konstantin Svist
On 03/19/2011 03:36 PM, stan wrote: > On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 14:42:20 -0700 > JD wrote: > >>> The -bp flag just unpacks the source so it can be examined or >>> patches can be created. >> Well, actually, -bp is for "prep"ing the source tree for compilation. >> -bp will APPLY the patches (if they exist

Re: How to compile a soft same as the version realeased by fedora?

2011-03-19 Thread stan
On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 14:42:20 -0700 JD wrote: > > The -bp flag just unpacks the source so it can be examined or > > patches can be created. > Well, actually, -bp is for "prep"ing the source tree for compilation. > -bp will APPLY the patches (if they exist and are called for in the > spec file), ra

Re: problems at very early stage installing Fedora 15 alpha in Virtualbox 4.0.4/Mac OS X

2011-03-19 Thread Linux_Sle
On 03/19/2011 10:29 AM, Sven Aluoor wrote: > Hi > > I tried the install option "Install system with basic video driver" > and the normal one. The problems accur before normal installer. See > screen shot http://i.imgur.com/4GBKW.png > > cheers Sven Hi. I got the initial install going using the low

Re: how to only allow tcp on dport 443 on the OUTPUT chain?

2011-03-19 Thread JD
On 03/19/2011 02:19 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: > erikmccaskey64 wrote: >> it's a normal desktop machines iptables firewall: >> >> If i want to block udp on dport 80 on the output chain, then is this >> enough? i want to only allow tcp on it! >> iptables -P OUTPUT DROP >> iptables -A OUTPUT -o $PUBIF

Re: Memtest mystery

2011-03-19 Thread Kevin J. Cummings
On 03/19/2011 05:00 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: > Very odd, in general the "correct" places allow two bank operation, which > speeds > operation by some "measurable but not noticeable" bit. Unusual, but I don't > doubt you, some vendor may have cut the odd corner. You are talking about "Dual Chann

Re: Brasero to create video DVD?

2011-03-19 Thread JD
On 03/19/2011 11:33 AM, Alex wrote: > Hi, > > Lots of questions today. I'm trying to use brasero on fc14 x86_64 to > create a DVD video from an AVI that I downloaded, and was just > wondering what people's opinion was of this program? > > While it seems to complete, it also just exits abruptly (dis

Re: How to compile a soft same as the version realeased by fedora?

2011-03-19 Thread JD
On 03/19/2011 11:20 AM, stan wrote: > On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 10:35:10 -0700 > stan wrote: > >> rpmbuild -bp OpenScreneGraph.spec > Oops! This should be > rpmbuild -bb OpenScreneGraph.spec > > The -bp flag just unpacks the source so it can be examined or patches > can be created. Well, actually, -bp

Re: Brasero to create video DVD?

2011-03-19 Thread Chris Smart
On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 5:33 AM, Alex wrote: > Hi, > > Lots of questions today. I'm trying to use brasero on fc14 x86_64 to > create a DVD video from an AVI that I downloaded, and was just > wondering what people's opinion was of this program? > sudo yum erase brasero sudo yum install k3b Proble

Re: Firefox appear to be MS or Mac -

2011-03-19 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 19/03/11 17:16, Aaron Konstam wrote: > On Sat, 2011-03-19 at 11:19 -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote: >> I believe there was an add-on to make the browser appear to be >> from a Windows computer? >> >> Trying to search for it but either it's no longer there or I >> have the wro

Re: how to only allow tcp on dport 443 on the OUTPUT chain?

2011-03-19 Thread Bill Davidsen
erikmccaskey64 wrote: > it's a normal desktop machines iptables firewall: > > If i want to block udp on dport 80 on the output chain, then is this > enough? i want to only allow tcp on it! > iptables -P OUTPUT DROP > iptables -A OUTPUT -o $PUBIF --dport 80 -j ACCEPT > > or i need this rule? > iptab

Re: Firefox appear to be MS or Mac -

2011-03-19 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Sat, 2011-03-19 at 11:19 -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote: > I believe there was an add-on to make the browser appear to be > from a Windows computer? > > Trying to search for it but either it's no longer there or I > have the wrong search terms. > > Anyone know what to

Re: JFS support in Fedora?

2011-03-19 Thread Bill Davidsen
stan wrote: > On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 17:46:24 -0200 > Fernando Cassia wrote: > >> IBM has released one of the first updates to JFSUtils in two years >> time. JFS file system development has been glaciar... but it seems to >> continue. >> >> http://jfs.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/jfs/jfsutils/NEWS?revi

Re: Memtest mystery

2011-03-19 Thread Bill Davidsen
Tom Horsley wrote: > I did have a server machine at work with a gazillion different > banks of memory which memtest86+ constantly said had memory errors > even though everything seemed to work fine. > > At some point, someone noticed that the memory wasn't plugged into > the different banks in the

Re: qemu update for fc13 broken?

2011-03-19 Thread Bill Davidsen
Bill Davidsen wrote: > I just installed the recent qemu update on my KVM server which hosts my VMs > for > local services. I stopped all VMs, did the upgrade, and reboot. Now none of > the > VMs respond to mouse or have sound. > > Any thoughts? x86_64, all stock Fedora stuff, critical service (wh

Re: the new thunderbird-3.1.9 and thunderbird-lightning-1.0b3pre

2011-03-19 Thread Kevin J. Cummings
On 03/19/2011 02:46 PM, Kevin J. Cummings wrote: > On 03/19/2011 02:39 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: >> On 03/19/2011 01:14 PM, Kevin J. Cummings wrote: >>> in case anyone can verify or refute my results. THANKS! >> >> I see the same thing with my remote calendars. Local calendars are not >> af

qemu update for fc13 broken?

2011-03-19 Thread Bill Davidsen
I just installed the recent qemu update on my KVM server which hosts my VMs for local services. I stopped all VMs, did the upgrade, and reboot. Now none of the VMs respond to mouse or have sound. Any thoughts? x86_64, all stock Fedora stuff, critical service (why I'm working Saturday). -- Bil

Re: Missing volume applet?

2011-03-19 Thread JB
JB gmail.com> writes: > ... > Google search: waiting for sound system to respond > e.g. > Solution > Go to System->Preferences -> Startup Applications > Make sure you’re in the tab ‘Startup programs’ > -> Click on ‘Add’ > Name: Pulseaudio daemon > Command:/usr/bin/pulseaudio > Comment: Start t

Re: Brasero to create video DVD?

2011-03-19 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2011-03-19 at 14:33 -0400, Alex wrote: > Lots of questions today. I'm trying to use brasero on fc14 x86_64 to > create a DVD video from an AVI that I downloaded, and was just > wondering what people's opinion was of this program? You need to be clearer about what you want to do. Is the DVD

Re: the new thunderbird-3.1.9 and thunderbird-lightning-1.0b3pre

2011-03-19 Thread Kevin J. Cummings
On 03/19/2011 02:39 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > On 03/19/2011 01:14 PM, Kevin J. Cummings wrote: >> in case anyone can verify or refute my results. THANKS! > > I see the same thing with my remote calendars. Local calendars are not > affected. > > Have you searched for or opened a bug repo

Re: Missing volume applet?

2011-03-19 Thread JB
Alex gmail.com> writes: > > Hi, > > >> I'm not sure it's still called an "applet", but the little volume > >> control in the upper-right is missing on the panel on my fc14 system. > >> How can I get it back? > >> > >> The little network icon is also missing. I have no idea how this > >> happene

Re: the new thunderbird-3.1.9 and thunderbird-lightning-1.0b3pre

2011-03-19 Thread Michael Cronenworth
On 03/19/2011 01:14 PM, Kevin J. Cummings wrote: > in case anyone can verify or refute my results. THANKS! I see the same thing with my remote calendars. Local calendars are not affected. Have you searched for or opened a bug report yet? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To

Brasero to create video DVD?

2011-03-19 Thread Alex
Hi, Lots of questions today. I'm trying to use brasero on fc14 x86_64 to create a DVD video from an AVI that I downloaded, and was just wondering what people's opinion was of this program? While it seems to complete, it also just exits abruptly (disappears, really), and leaves the following in br

Re: Missing volume applet?

2011-03-19 Thread Alex
Hi, >> I'm not sure it's still called an "applet", but the little volume >> control in the upper-right is missing on the panel on my fc14 system. >> How can I get it back? >> >> The little network icon is also missing. I have no idea how this >> happened. The clock and username are still there, th

Re: Missing volume applet?

2011-03-19 Thread Alex
Hi, >> I'm not sure it's still called an "applet", but the little volume >> control in the upper-right is missing on the panel on my fc14 system. >> How can I get it back? > > Make sure you add the "Notification area" applet to your panel. > That's where those _special_ "applet" icons appear. Tha

Re: kernel 2.6.38 & auto sched

2011-03-19 Thread Kevin J. Cummings
On 03/19/2011 01:16 PM, mike cloaked wrote: > On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 4:25 PM, Genes MailLists wrote: > >> Wow - is this kernel awesome ... I am beating the poo out of the >> machine - and interactivity is stellar ... >> >> fedora 14 really should get the benefit of auto sched ... no issues so

Re: Missing volume applet?

2011-03-19 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 13:42:42 -0400, Alex wrote: > Hi, > > I'm not sure it's still called an "applet", but the little volume > control in the upper-right is missing on the panel on my fc14 system. > How can I get it back? Make sure you add the "Notification area" applet to your panel. That's wher

Re: How to compile a soft same as the version realeased by fedora?

2011-03-19 Thread stan
On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 10:35:10 -0700 stan wrote: > rpmbuild -bp OpenScreneGraph.spec Oops! This should be rpmbuild -bb OpenScreneGraph.spec The -bp flag just unpacks the source so it can be examined or patches can be created. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe o

Re: Disable loading of nouveau driver for installing NVidia driver

2011-03-19 Thread Kevin J. Cummings
On 03/19/2011 11:09 AM, Mark Ryden wrote: > Hello, > I tried to install NVIdia driver from their site for GeForce 8400 GS > display card. > I ahve F12 x86_64. Have you tried the rpmfusion nvidia drivers? I use them on F13, and I don't have to do anything special for my brand-spanking-new GT218 ca

Re: Missing volume applet?

2011-03-19 Thread JB
JB gmail.com> writes: > ... > > The little network icon is also missing. I have no idea how this > > happened. The clock and username are still there, though. > ... The other one is (I assume): $ yum info NetworkManager-gnome JB -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubs

Re: the new thunderbird-3.1.9 and thunderbird-lightning-1.0b3pre

2011-03-19 Thread Kevin J. Cummings
On 03/19/2011 04:22 AM, Kevin J. Cummings wrote: > > Further testing shows that if I do a "reload remote calendars", these > two calendars disappear when the reload is done. One last data point. (One of) the remote calendars that fail is at: webcal://cantonbecker.com/astronomy-calendar/astr

Re: Firewall rules to block unwanted protocolls on given ports

2011-03-19 Thread stan
On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 06:05:50 -0700 johhny_at_poland77 wrote: > Does somebody has an idea, that what kind of iptables/pf rule must i > use to achieve this?: > > i only want to allow these connections [on the output chain]: > > on port 53 output only allow udp - dns > on port 80 output only allow

Re: Missing volume applet?

2011-03-19 Thread JB
Alex gmail.com> writes: > > Hi, > > I'm not sure it's still called an "applet", but the little volume > control in the upper-right is missing on the panel on my fc14 system. > How can I get it back? > > The little network icon is also missing. I have no idea how this > happened. The clock and

Missing volume applet?

2011-03-19 Thread Alex
Hi, I'm not sure it's still called an "applet", but the little volume control in the upper-right is missing on the panel on my fc14 system. How can I get it back? The little network icon is also missing. I have no idea how this happened. The clock and username are still there, though. What happe

Re: Reinstall sound on fc14?

2011-03-19 Thread Alex
Hi, >> Here is some information about my system: >> >> # cat /proc/asound/cards >>  0 [CK8S           ]: NFORCE - NVidia CK8S >>                       NVidia CK8S with ALC850 at irq 22 >> >> # lspci -v >> 00:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation nForce3 250Gb >> AC'97 Audio Controll

Re: How to compile a soft same as the version realeased by fedora?

2011-03-19 Thread stan
On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 10:52:38 +0800 GeeKer Wang wrote: > > I have tried three ways: > 1. configure && make > 2. ccmake && make > 3. rpmbuild --recompile OpenSceneGraph-2.8.3-3.fc14.src.rpm Try the following, which works for me to create installable packages. cd ~/rpmbuild/SPECS rpmbuild -bp Open

Re: [OT Humor] "Obviously designed by morons"

2011-03-19 Thread suvayu ali
On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote: > Yes but if changes are so radical -like Unity on Ubuntu- Fedora could > very well decide to include both Gnome 3 *and* continue maintaining > Gnome 2.x at the latest level, issuing fixes, even if the gnome team > decides to stop the 2.x bra

Re: kernel 2.6.38 & auto sched

2011-03-19 Thread mike cloaked
On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 4:25 PM, Genes MailLists wrote: >  Wow - is this kernel awesome ... I am beating the poo out of the > machine - and interactivity is stellar ... > >  fedora 14 really should get the benefit of auto sched ... no issues so > far at all. > >  Not sure I have any USB 1 devices

Re: Disable loading of nouveau driver for installing NVidia driver

2011-03-19 Thread Steven I Usdansky
I've been known to move the nouveau.ko file to /root in order to prevent it from loading. Overkill, but it worked for me (I'm now usingthe nouveau driver, so I no longer need to do this). -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: h

Re: Disable loading of nouveau driver for installing NVidia driver

2011-03-19 Thread Ian Chapman
On 19/03/11 23:09, Mark Ryden wrote: > Nevertheless, after boot, the nouveau driver is **still* loaded. > What should I do ? It may be being loaded in the initial ram disk. Try appending the following to the line that starts with "kernel" line in /etc/grub.conf and reboot. rdblacklist=nouveau

Re: [OT Humor] "Obviously designed by morons"

2011-03-19 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 11:15 AM, suvayu ali wrote: > > I hope that you realise you are talking about Fedora? Yes but if changes are so radical -like Unity on Ubuntu- Fedora could very well decide to include both Gnome 3 *and* continue maintaining Gnome 2.x at the latest level, issuing fixes, eve

Re: Firefox appear to be MS or Mac -

2011-03-19 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 19/03/11 11:23, Richard England wrote: > On 03/19/2011 08:19 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote: >> > I believe there was an add-on to make the browser appear to be >> > from a Windows computer? >> > >> > Trying to search for it but either it's no longer there or I >> >

Re: [OT Humor] "Obviously designed by morons"

2011-03-19 Thread JB
Fernando Cassia gmail.com> writes: > > On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 9:05 AM, JB gmail.com> wrote: > > So, I am wondering if Fedora takes into consideration providing GNOME 2 as > > well (in parallel) with F15 and for some time beyond ? > > As a former os2 user I ran the same desktop interface with

Re: [OT Humor] "Obviously designed by morons"

2011-03-19 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 03/19/2011 09:04 PM, JB wrote: > > This may change if things do not look right ... remember, they stopped systemd > in F14 literally few days before cut-off day. It was more than a few days. In any case, not really a analagous situation with systemd. Providing a older version in parallel to a

Re: [OT Humor] "Obviously designed by morons"

2011-03-19 Thread JB
Rahul Sundaram gmail.com> writes: > > On 03/19/2011 05:35 PM, JB wrote: > > > > So, I am wondering if Fedora takes into consideration providing GNOME 2 as > > well (in parallel) with F15 and for some time beyond ? > > Is there any official statement by Fedora with regard to that ? > > No plans

Re: [OT Humor] "Obviously designed by morons"

2011-03-19 Thread Ian Pilcher
On 03/19/2011 10:11 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: > In other words, "We're the devs. We know what's right for Gnome and you > mere users don't." To be fair, it tends to be more "you're not our target audience" than "we know what's right." That said, I've never been able to figure what portion of the UNIX

Re: [OT Humor] "Obviously designed by morons"

2011-03-19 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 03/19/2011 08:41 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 03/19/2011 07:30 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> * Not upgrade and see if a future revision is more palatable to you > In other words, "We're the devs. We know what's right for Gnome and you > mere users don't." What you said is entirely different from w

Re: Firefox appear to be MS or Mac -

2011-03-19 Thread Richard England
On 03/19/2011 08:19 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote: > I believe there was an add-on to make the browser appear to be > from a Windows computer? > > Trying to search for it but either it's no longer there or I > have the wrong search terms. > > Anyone know what to

Firefox appear to be MS or Mac -

2011-03-19 Thread Bob Goodwin
I believe there was an add-on to make the browser appear to be from a Windows computer? Trying to search for it but either it's no longer there or I have the wrong search terms. Anyone know what to look for? Bob -- -- users mailing list

Re: [OT Humor] "Obviously designed by morons"

2011-03-19 Thread Joe Zeff
On 03/19/2011 07:30 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > * Not upgrade and see if a future revision is more palatable to you In other words, "We're the devs. We know what's right for Gnome and you mere users don't." -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscriptio

Disable loading of nouveau driver for installing NVidia driver

2011-03-19 Thread Mark Ryden
Hello, I tried to install NVIdia driver from their site for GeForce 8400 GS display card. I ahve F12 x86_64. I downloaded from NVidia site this file: NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-260.19.44.run which is a 64 bit setup for Linux I tried to run it from terminal. I got an error message that nouveau driver must

Re: [OT Humor] "Obviously designed by morons"

2011-03-19 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 03/19/2011 08:24 PM, John Aldrich wrote: > Will we "automagically" be upgraded to systemd when we upgrade to F15? Yes > Will > all our existing init scripts be transferred over? Some core software have been updated to take advantage of systemd but systemd is compatible with sysvinit script

Re: [OT Humor] "Obviously designed by morons"

2011-03-19 Thread John Aldrich
On Sat March 19 2011, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 03/19/2011 03:15 PM, JB wrote: > > I have not tried F15 Alpha yet. > > I am wondering how the systemd, the new important feature works ? > > Remember, it was dropped from F14 ... > > It wasn't dropped from Fedora 14. You can still use systemd with

Re: [OT Humor] "Obviously designed by morons"

2011-03-19 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 10:36:56 -0400 Genes MailLists wrote: > > Oh yeah. I like keeping my system spun up all the time in case I want to > > connect remotely. There doesn't even seem to be an option to never spin > > down or never suspend/hibernate any more. > > > > Surely that cannot be true .. ca

Re: [OT Humor] "Obviously designed by morons"

2011-03-19 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 03/19/2011 08:06 PM, Genes MailLists wrote: > On 03/19/2011 01:18 AM, Chris Kloiber wrote: > >> Oh yeah. I like keeping my system spun up all the time in case I want to >> connect remotely. There doesn't even seem to be an option to never spin >> down or never suspend/hibernate any more. >> >>

Re: [OT Humor] "Obviously designed by morons"

2011-03-19 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 07:15:10 -0700 suvayu ali wrote: > I don't like the new Gnome either, but I still think it should be > included. More testing and feedback (negative in this case) will > actually help it get to a place we as users would like it to be. Oh yes, for a great example of how well gn

Re: [OT Humor] "Obviously designed by morons"

2011-03-19 Thread Genes MailLists
On 03/19/2011 01:18 AM, Chris Kloiber wrote: > Oh yeah. I like keeping my system spun up all the time in case I want to > connect remotely. There doesn't even seem to be an option to never spin > down or never suspend/hibernate any more. > > > Surely that cannot be true .. can it ? I guess if

Re: [OT Humor] "Obviously designed by morons"

2011-03-19 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 03/19/2011 03:15 PM, JB wrote: > > I have not tried F15 Alpha yet. > I am wondering how the systemd, the new important feature works ? > Remember, it was dropped from F14 ... It wasn't dropped from Fedora 14. You can still use systemd with Fedora 14 if you want to. It is merely not the defau

Re: [OT Humor] "Obviously designed by morons"

2011-03-19 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 03/19/2011 05:35 PM, JB wrote: > > So, I am wondering if Fedora takes into consideration providing GNOME 2 as > well (in parallel) with F15 and for some time beyond ? > Is there any official statement by Fedora with regard to that ? No plans to provide older versions. You can use one of the fo

Re: [OT Humor] "Obviously designed by morons"

2011-03-19 Thread suvayu ali
On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 5:56 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote: > I just think a frozen API is actually good, as it allows people to > just fix crashing bugs and stop re-inventing the wheel and prevents > feature creep and bloat... I hope that you realise you are talking about Fedora? The project goals f

Firewall rules to block unwanted protocolls on given ports

2011-03-19 Thread johhny_at_poland77
Does somebody has an idea, that what kind of iptables/pf rule must i use to achieve this?: i only want to allow these connections [on the output chain]: on port 53 output only allow udp - dns on port 80 output only allow tcp - http on port 443 output only allow tcp - https on port 993 output onl

Re: [OT Humor] "Obviously designed by morons"

2011-03-19 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 9:05 AM, JB wrote: > So, I am wondering if Fedora takes into consideration providing GNOME 2 as > well (in parallel) with F15 and for some time beyond ? As a former os2 user I ran the same desktop interface with a frozen API for almost a decade... software still gets writt

Re: My "swap" space seems to have vanished....

2011-03-19 Thread DB
On 03/18/2011 04:42 PM, users-requ...@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote: > Subject: > Re: My "swap" space seems to have vanished > From: > "Michael D. Setzer II" > Date: > Sat, 19 Mar 2011 01:42:33 +1000 > > To: > Martin Airs , users@lists.fedoraproject.org > > > On 18 Mar 2011 at 15:34, Martin Ai

Re: [OT Humor] "Obviously designed by morons"

2011-03-19 Thread JB
Ralf Corsepius freenet.de> writes: > > On 03/19/2011 10:45 AM, JB wrote: > > Ralf Corsepius freenet.de> writes: > > > >> > >> On 03/18/2011 10:15 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > >>> Tom Horsley wrote: > Yea - start a different branch of gnome or kde (or something new) > and see whic

Re: [OT Humor] "Obviously designed by morons"

2011-03-19 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 03/19/2011 10:45 AM, JB wrote: > Ralf Corsepius freenet.de> writes: > >> >> On 03/18/2011 10:15 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: >>> Tom Horsley wrote: Yea - start a different branch of gnome or kde (or something new) and see which one people install the most. >>> >>> You mean... XFCE?

problems at very early stage installing Fedora 15 alpha in Virtualbox 4.0.4/Mac OS X

2011-03-19 Thread Sven Aluoor
Hi I tried the install option "Install system with basic video driver" and the normal one. The problems accur before normal installer. See screen shot http://i.imgur.com/4GBKW.png cheers Sven -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https

Re: [OT Humor] "Obviously designed by morons"

2011-03-19 Thread JB
Ralf Corsepius freenet.de> writes: > > On 03/18/2011 10:15 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > > Tom Horsley wrote: > >> Yea - start a different branch of gnome or kde (or something new) > >> and see which one people install the most. > > > > You mean... XFCE? Or... LXDE? ... or Enlightenment (the

Re: Changing UNIX (Was: (unknown))

2011-03-19 Thread JB
Mikkel infinity-ltd.com> writes: > ... Thanks for your comments. I forgot to mention one more problem: 4. The /dev/ assigned to Linux partition/*BSD slices have a "floating" nature as they are *appended* to Linux partitions. As a result they will be changed back and forth according to the

Re: the new thunderbird-3.1.9 and thunderbird-lightning-1.0b3pre

2011-03-19 Thread Kevin J. Cummings
On 03/18/2011 05:59 PM, Kevin J. Cummings wrote: > After recently installing the new thunderbird packages on F14, I am > starting to notice that of my 6 installed calendars, 2 of them disappear > after a small amount of time and refreshing them does not bring them > back. I have to shutdown thunde