Re: Upgrading to F16 Beta

2011-10-08 Thread Craig White
On Sat, 2011-10-08 at 17:49 -0700, JD wrote: > On 10/08/2011 04:09 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > You haven't given any single reason why it should be a script. What > > exactly does such a live upgrade do that preupgrade doesn't and why > > can't be it be a part of preupgrade? > > > > Rahul > We

Re: Upgrading to F16 Beta

2011-10-08 Thread JD
On 10/08/2011 04:09 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 10/09/2011 04:26 AM, JD wrote: > >> But there is every reason to make the >> live upgrade of fedora as user friendly as possible. >> Your opinion sounds rather insensitive to newbs >> and non-techies, who would like to perform such >> a live upgrad

Re: What spins are most minimal?

2011-10-08 Thread suvayu ali
On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 8:30 PM, Beartooth wrote: >        I've been happily running Omega Linux 14 on my little old ASUS > 701 for some time, and doing updates. Today I finally got a result saying > "Errno 28] No space left on device." > > Have you tried cleaning the yum cache? # yum clean cache

Re: Upgrading to F16 Beta

2011-10-08 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 10/09/2011 04:26 AM, JD wrote: > But there is every reason to make the > live upgrade of fedora as user friendly as possible. > Your opinion sounds rather insensitive to newbs > and non-techies, who would like to perform such > a live upgrade. > Clearly, Fedora needs more people who are > willi

Re: Upgrading to F16 Beta

2011-10-08 Thread JD
On 10/08/2011 03:49 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 10/09/2011 02:52 AM, JD wrote: > >> I was addressing a live upgrade. >> A live upgrade does indeed need to >> be a script so that newbs and non-techies >> will be able to perform without having >> to read a how-to procedure and make >> accidental m

Re: Upgrading to F16 Beta

2011-10-08 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 10/09/2011 02:52 AM, JD wrote: > I was addressing a live upgrade. > A live upgrade does indeed need to > be a script so that newbs and non-techies > will be able to perform without having > to read a how-to procedure and make > accidental mistakes, no matter who > creates it and submits it for

Re: Upgrading to F16 Beta

2011-10-08 Thread JD
On 10/08/2011 01:13 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 10/07/2011 02:47 PM, JD wrote: > >> Seems to me that the upgrade process itself >> should be better scripted on the release DVD/CD >> to take care of such problems, including cleaning >> up of orphaned packages, and synching of packages. >> Such a

Re: Upgrading to F16 Beta

2011-10-08 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 10/07/2011 02:47 PM, JD wrote: > Seems to me that the upgrade process itself > should be better scripted on the release DVD/CD > to take care of such problems, including cleaning > up of orphaned packages, and synching of packages. > Such a script would be a great help to newbs and > non-techie

Re: What spins are most minimal?

2011-10-08 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 10/09/2011 12:00 AM, Beartooth wrote: > >Do I have to go try Puppy Linux again? Or is there another > spin of Fedora even leaner than Omega? You can do a minimal install if you use the standard Fedora DVD image and install just what you want on top of that. Rahul -- users mailing l

Re: What spins are most minimal?

2011-10-08 Thread charles zeitler
Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Beartooth wrote: > >        It had to happen; and the question isn't really an oxymoron, > though maybe I should have asked what is smallest. > > >         Do I have to go try Puppy Linux again? Or is there anothe

Re: Upgrading to F16 Beta

2011-10-08 Thread JD
On 10/07/2011 03:21 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: > On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 07:42, JD wrote: >> I vote for an upgrade script for all the steps >> suggested on >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_Fedora_using_yum > Wow, progress being made!. > > I remember suggesting here that the Linux communit

Re: vi ? howto show cursor position

2011-10-08 Thread Mike Wright
On 10/08/2011 11:32 AM, John Horne wrote: > On 7 October 2011 18:01, Mike Wright wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> In previous fedora releases vi would display the cursor position as "row >> number" "character position" in the bottom right of the display. In >> f14's release of vi this is no longer true. >

Re: vi ? howto show cursor position

2011-10-08 Thread John Horne
On Sat, 2011-10-08 at 19:32 +0100, John Horne wrote: > On 7 October 2011 18:01, Mike Wright wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > In previous fedora releases vi would display the cursor position as "row > > number" "character position" in the bottom right of the display. In > > f14's release of vi this is n

Re: vi ? howto show cursor position

2011-10-08 Thread John Horne
On 7 October 2011 18:01, Mike Wright wrote: > Hi all, > > In previous fedora releases vi would display the cursor position as "row > number" "character position" in the bottom right of the display. In > f14's release of vi this is no longer true. > > I've looked through the command reference and

What spins are most minimal?

2011-10-08 Thread Beartooth
It had to happen; and the question isn't really an oxymoron, though maybe I should have asked what is smallest. I've been happily running Omega Linux 14 on my little old ASUS 701 for some time, and doing updates. Today I finally got a result saying "Errno 28] No space left on d

Re: Corrupted evolution databases

2011-10-08 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Fri, 2011-10-07 at 15:31 -0400, Matthew Saltzman wrote: > On Tue, 2011-10-04 at 15:39 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: > > On Tue, 2011-10-04 at 15:34 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: > > > On Tue, 2011-10-04 at 15:50 -0400, Matthew Saltzman wrote: > > > > I had a crash that caused some filesystem errors,

Re: vi ? howto show cursor position

2011-10-08 Thread Hiisi
On 7 October 2011 18:01, Mike Wright wrote: > Hi all, > > In previous fedora releases vi would display the cursor position as "row > number" "character position" in the bottom right of the display.  In > f14's release of vi this is no longer true. > > I've looked through the command reference and

Re: Pavilion dv6-3225dx under F14 -- mouse problems

2011-10-08 Thread Paul Allen Newell
[cut-and-paste from archives] gary artim wrote: +++ have a clickpad I can play with at work and tried out the beta of SuSe and FC16. both have better support but the right click and center click for does not work -- tools i need. you can set tapping to 2 or 3 fingers to get the right and center opt

Re: Upgrading to F16 Beta

2011-10-08 Thread JD
On 10/07/2011 03:21 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: > On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 07:42, JD wrote: >> I vote for an upgrade script for all the steps >> suggested on >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_Fedora_using_yum > Wow, progress being made!. > > I remember suggesting here that the Linux communit

Re: TFTP stopped working on F14

2011-10-08 Thread Soham Chakraborty
Go to the directory /etc/xinetd.d There all the services controlled by xinted reside. If tftp is being controlled by xinetd, then you will find a configuration file specific to it. As Frantisek said, disable=NO should be there if it is xinetd controlled. If not, then disable=YES In other words, tr

Re: TFTP stopped working on F14

2011-10-08 Thread Frantisek Hanzlik
Aaron Gray wrote: .. >> I guess, it is running as a xinetd controlled daemon, if so, is there >> anything else > listening on the tftp port? > > How do I ascertain this ? - "netstat" utility should be display xinetd daemon listening at udp port 69 : # netstat -a -n -p --ip|grep 69 udp0

Re: TFTP stopped working on F14

2011-10-08 Thread Aaron Gray
On 7 October 2011 18:38, Aaron Gray wrote: > On 7 October 2011 18:29, Soham Chakraborty wrote: > >> Is it possible for you to check the connection status by netstat when you >> transfer a file? Also, once you start transferring a file, can you get the >> PID and attach strace to it? >> >> > Just

Re: Java crashes in Mozilla Firefox

2011-10-08 Thread Per Anton Rønning
Deepak Bhole wrote: > Is there a reason why you can't upgrade to a newer Fedora version? > Fedora 9 has been long unsupported, and there has been tremendous > progress on the IcedTea plug-in since then. > > Cheers, > Deepak There is no particular reason, except the work involved. I have to rescu

Re: Java crashes in Mozilla Firefox

2011-10-08 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 08.10.2011, Per Anton Rønning wrote: > Error occurred during initialization of VM > java/lang/NoClassDefFoundError: java/lang/Object > Ring a bell? Unfortunately not. Does this one help? http://javarevisited.blogspot.com/2011/06/noclassdeffounderror-exception-in.html -- users mailing lis

Re: Changing UID/GID. Was Upgrading to F16 Beta

2011-10-08 Thread suvayu ali
On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 8:31 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 10/07/2011 02:17 AM, JD wrote: >> Thanx. >> A good point. >> I wish the upgrade process would >> actually prompt the user for performing >> such steps. > > I'm replying to this twice, and changing the subject here because I > didn't want to (com

Re: Battery Status Errors

2011-10-08 Thread suvayu ali
On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 3:30 AM, Keith Clark wrote: > Where to find this percentage setting? >From another post I see that you are using Gnome, I have never used Gnome 3 so I don't know. But I would assume you can open the power management dialog by (right?) clicking on the battery icon. That sai