Re: F16 clean install issues.

2011-12-29 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 15:27:12 +1000, MDSI (Michael) wrote: Have been testing an upgrade with F16 on one of my classroom machines, and ran into some issues. Missing maximize/minimize/close buttons on windows. With the default settings, there is a context-menu for the window title bar

Re: bridges, NAT, virtual machines, brain hurt :-).

2011-12-29 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/29/2011 10:13 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 13:02:08 -0500 Tom Horsley wrote: Ah, but it is a bridge, and what bridge is more famous and bifrost? :-). famous than (don't know how that become famous and on the way out my fingers :-). Mostly in Norse mythology, alas.

Re: DVD ISO copy weirdness

2011-12-29 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
2011/12/29 夜神 岩男 supergiantpot...@yahoo.co.jp: I bought a new movie on DVD the other day for my kid (Christmas and all...). I wanted to back it up because I've noticed a few of my older DVDs don't play correctly anymore (blocky in spots or don't play period but are studio cuts that used to

Firefox 9 on F16 can not set Home Page

2011-12-29 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Tue, 2011-12-27 at 22:56 +, g wrote: On 12/27/2011 09:28 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: In Firefox 9 in F16 I can't set the home page. I make my web page www.Google.com. Then I go to preferences and click Use Current Page. This works for a while. But when I reboot the home page becomes

Re: bridges, NAT, virtual machines, brain hurt :-).

2011-12-29 Thread Ian Pilcher
OK, I have a few comments and suggestions. Worth every cent you paid for them. On 12/28/2011 10:35 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: echo 1 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward You'll want to make this persistent by setting net.ipv4.ip_forward = 1 in /etc/sysctl.conf. iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o br0 -j

Re: No title bar on app windows under XFCE in one user

2011-12-29 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Wed, 2011-12-28 at 18:27 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 09:39:31 +0900 Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 5:04 AM, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote: On Wed, 28 Dec 2011 15:18:48 +0900 Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone else

Re: A couple of repeatable ways to freeze-up Fedora..

2011-12-29 Thread Patrick Lists
On 29-12-11 05:01, David wrote: Patrick I thought it had been agreed that we would no longer 'feed the troll'? This was send before the last one :) Cheers, Patrick -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options:

Re: Boot Disk

2011-12-29 Thread Alan Cox
which disk the initial load occurred from? I did run dmidecode and found nothing of value. dmidecode is the wrong interface. EDD provides the drive to BIOS mapping tables, DMI provides static configuration data. Your two hard drives are otherwise (I presume) exactly alike. Just use the

Re: Boot Disk

2011-12-29 Thread R. G. Newbury
On 12/27/2011 11:21 AM, Jeffrey Ross wrote: On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 2:37 PM, Jeffrey Rossj...@bubble.org wrote: Is there a way to identify which disk the BIOS is using to boot from (eg disk 0 or 1) when I don't have physical access to the system to view the BIOS settings? If both

Re: DVD ISO copy weirdness

2011-12-29 Thread Steven Stern
On 12/29/2011 10:07 AM, 夜神 岩男 wrote: I bought a new movie on DVD the other day for my kid (Christmas and all...). I wanted to back it up because I've noticed a few of my older DVDs don't play correctly anymore (blocky in spots or don't play period but are studio cuts that used to work!).

Re: Firefox 9 on F16 can not set Home Page

2011-12-29 Thread g
On 12/29/2011 03:37 PM, g wrote: On 12/29/2011 02:12 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: I reported that the method described in the web page worked. Well the home page I set survived a restart but not a shut down and reboot. So I am mystified why this behavior is different than all other versions

Re: bridges, NAT, virtual machines, brain hurt :-).

2011-12-29 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 13:02:08 -0500 Tom Horsley wrote: Ah, but it is a bridge, and what bridge is more famous and bifrost? :-). famous than (don't know how that become famous and on the way out my fingers :-). -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change

DVD ISO copy weirdness

2011-12-29 Thread 夜神 岩男
I bought a new movie on DVD the other day for my kid (Christmas and all...). I wanted to back it up because I've noticed a few of my older DVDs don't play correctly anymore (blocky in spots or don't play period but are studio cuts that used to work!). Normally I just put a DVD in the drive,

Re: Firefox 9 on F16 can not set Home Page

2011-12-29 Thread g
On 12/29/2011 02:12 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: I reported that the method described in the web page worked. Well the home page I set survived a restart but not a shut down and reboot. So I am mystified why this behavior is different than all other versions of firefox and how to make the home

Re: bridges, NAT, virtual machines, brain hurt :-).

2011-12-29 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 10:44:05 -0600 Ian Pilcher wrote: OK, I have a few comments and suggestions. Worth every cent you paid for them. They seem more valuable than that! Thanks. You'll want to make this persistent by setting net.ipv4.ip_forward = 1 in /etc/sysctl.conf. Yea, I was going to

Re: bridges, NAT, virtual machines, brain hurt :-).

2011-12-29 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 10:25:23 -0800 Joe Zeff wrote: Americans would probably understand better if you named it TroubledWaters. Nah! Americans real Marvel comics and watch Marvel comic movie adaptations :-). -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change

RE: starting xfce with vncserver

2011-12-29 Thread Damian Rodriguez Sanchez
Hello, I'm trying to start an xfce session on a vncserver connection. A call to startxfce4 on my xstartup file works with other distributions, but on my fc15 it just gives me a black screen after I connect. Any ideas? I found my Xfce all messed up this morning when I turned up my

Slow USB port - enabling high speed hubs.

2011-12-29 Thread Javier Perez
Hi I am passing a lot of info from my USB pendrive to the hard drive I am using FC16 (Linux pepewin 3.1.6-1.fc16.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Dec 21 22:41:17 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux ) I am curious, why if I have a USB 2.0 full speed device --supposedly * 480 Mbit/s* (60 MB/s), I only see a

F16 with some F17 updating of?

2011-12-29 Thread Frank Murphy
I have an F16 box, with some F17.rpm installed. Is it possible to update just the f17.rpms I'm useless at scripting this. Have googled, probably wrong search terms though. -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded Friend of fedoraproject.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: F16 with some F17 updating of?

2011-12-29 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 1:06 PM, Frank Murphy frankl...@gmail.com wrote: I have an F16 box, with some F17.rpm installed. Is it possible to update just the f17.rpms I'm useless at scripting this. Have googled, probably wrong search terms though. rpm -qa | grep fc17 | xargs yum

Re: F16 with some F17 updating of?

2011-12-29 Thread Frank Murphy
On 29/12/11 20:33, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 1:06 PM, Frank Murphyfrankl...@gmail.com wrote: I have an F16 box, with some F17.rpm installed. Is it possible to update just the f17.rpms I'm useless at scripting this. Have googled, probably wrong search terms though.

Re: Firefox 9 on F16 can not set Home Page

2011-12-29 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Thu, 2011-12-29 at 15:59 +, g wrote: On 12/29/2011 03:37 PM, g wrote: On 12/29/2011 02:12 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: I reported that the method described in the web page worked. Well the home page I set survived a restart but not a shut down and reboot. So I am mystified why

Re: Firefox 9 on F16 can not set Home Page

2011-12-29 Thread Patrick Lists
On 29-12-11 22:21, Aaron Konstam wrote: Disabling adons has the same behavior as not disabling them. I can change the home page to Google and when firefox restarts it is still Google. However if I shut the machine down Bing is back. There is no Bing in by about:config display. I agree there must

Re: Boot Disk

2011-12-29 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Thu, 2011-12-29 at 16:30 +, Alan Cox wrote: which disk the initial load occurred from? I did run dmidecode and found nothing of value. dmidecode is the wrong interface. EDD provides the drive to BIOS mapping tables, DMI provides static configuration data. Your two hard

Re: No title bar on app windows under XFCE in one user

2011-12-29 Thread Joel Rees
On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote: [...] Also, Gnome's fallback has the same issues with loss of title bar. No idea there. Haven't checked yet to see if that's fixed. As Aaron indicates, Gnome is fixed, too. Now, what I am curious about is what kind of

Re: bridges, NAT, virtual machines, brain hurt :-).

2011-12-29 Thread Ian Pilcher
On 12/29/2011 12:25 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/29/2011 10:13 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 13:02:08 -0500 Tom Horsley wrote: Ah, but it is a bridge, and what bridge is more famous and bifrost? :-). famous than (don't know how that become famous and on the way out my fingers

Re: Firefox 9 on F16 can not set Home Page

2011-12-29 Thread g
On 12/29/2011 09:36 PM, Patrick Lists wrote: On 29-12-11 22:21, Aaron Konstam wrote: Disabling adons has the same behavior as not disabling them. Not sure if this is related but have you tried clicking in the search box on the logo/drop down arrow and then click on Manage Search

F14 is EOL, so why report something for a version of Fedora that is no longer maintained?..

2011-12-29 Thread Linda McLeod
Re: A couple of repeatable ways to freeze-up Fedora.. From: Patrick Lists fedora-l...@puzzled.xs4all.nl [Add] To: Community support for Fedora users users@lists.fedoraproject.org Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 3:13 PM (23 hours 37 minutes ago) Show message - Delete attached message - Save

Re: No title bar on app windows under XFCE in one user

2011-12-29 Thread Joel Rees
On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 12:47 PM, Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com wrote: On Thu, 2011-12-29 at 11:56 +0900, Joel Rees wrote: Logged in as a different user, XFCE is running on that user. One difference is that I have flash installed locally in the user that has the problems. (It's about

Re: It's time for you to leave.

2011-12-29 Thread Linda McLeod
Re: Thanks Joel.. and Does the computer think..? From: Patrick Lists fedora-l...@puzzled.xs4all.nl [Add] To: Community support for Fedora users users@lists.fedoraproject.org Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 3:22 PM (1 day ago) Show message - Delete attached message - Save copy of attached

Re: It's time for you to leave.

2011-12-29 Thread Joel Rees
Just out of curiosity, Patrick, do your filters not work? I mean, yeah, it costs me a couple of seconds if I open up one of her posts and realize she's gone too far off-topic for me to help her with the topical question buried in her rant, but, shoot, think about it. This is precisely the kind of

Re: It's time for you to leave.

2011-12-29 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2011-12-29 at 15:44 -0800, Linda McLeod wrote: Bye-bye suckies Dare we hope? poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines:

where is the config for dynamically added volumes in nautilus?

2011-12-29 Thread Da Rock
I've googled for close to a week to resolve this. I know that inserting a usb disk (depending on setup and version) causes a knock on effect by calling dbus, hal, and maybe more depending. But *how* does nautilus (or any other file manager system) find out that the disk is there and put an

Re: where is the config for dynamically added volumes in nautilus?

2011-12-29 Thread Antonio Olivares
--- On Thu, 12/29/11, Da Rock fedora-l...@herveybayaustralia.com.au wrote: From: Da Rock fedora-l...@herveybayaustralia.com.au Subject: where is the config for dynamically added volumes in nautilus? To: 'Community support for Fedora users' users@lists.fedoraproject.org Date: Thursday,

Re: where is the config for dynamically added volumes in nautilus?

2011-12-29 Thread Da Rock
On 12/30/11 11:49, Antonio Olivares wrote: --- On Thu, 12/29/11, Da Rockfedora-l...@herveybayaustralia.com.au wrote: From: Da Rockfedora-l...@herveybayaustralia.com.au Subject: where is the config for dynamically added volumes in nautilus? To: 'Community support for Fedora

Re: It's time for you to leave.

2011-12-29 Thread Patrick Lists
On 30-12-11 00:56, Joel Rees wrote: Just out of curiosity, Patrick, do your filters not work? Filters work just fine and anything from this Linda person goes directly to /dev/null. It's just too bad that loonies like Linda and the threads that go on and on further drifting away off-topic

Re: It's time for you to leave.

2011-12-29 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2011-12-30 at 04:57 +0100, Patrick Lists wrote: On 30-12-11 00:56, Joel Rees wrote: Just out of curiosity, Patrick, do your filters not work? Filters work just fine and anything from this Linda person goes directly to /dev/null. It's just too bad that loonies like Linda and the

Re: A couple of repeatable ways to freeze-up Fedora..

2011-12-29 Thread Ed Greshko
On 12/29/2011 07:06 AM, Linda McLeod wrote: A couple of repeatable ways to freeze-up Fedora.. which is probably related and linked to other unsolved problems in Fedora.. As F-14 is booting-up, plug-in 8 flash-drives (2 hubs) before the OS is fully booted... I've confirmed that plugging in

Re: It's time for you to leave.

2011-12-29 Thread Patrick Lists
On 30-12-11 05:16, Craig White wrote: On this list, we have a pretty wide variety of users including those that are simply desktop only end users that simply want to use a computer and aren't necessarily computer hobbyists nor system admins. Thus the fedora-users list doesn't even slightly

Re: It's time for you to leave.

2011-12-29 Thread Joel Rees
On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 2:44 PM, Patrick Lists fedora-l...@puzzled.xs4all.nl wrote: On 30-12-11 05:16, Craig White wrote: On this list, we have a pretty wide variety of users including those that are simply desktop only end users that simply want to use a computer and aren't necessarily

F16 (gnome/default)- cpu usage 100%

2011-12-29 Thread Nermin Celik
Hello, I've just upgraded my computer from F12 to F16 (Gnome Desktop Edition/Default). Although haven't played with F16 much, it looks quiet impressive. Thank you for the developers and contributors. Question: Firstly, my computer is 3-4 years old, with 2 CPUs, built by a friend. I'm not much of