Re: Dialup users and keeping a system updated

2012-05-20 Thread Ed Greshko
On 05/21/2012 09:57 AM, Chuck Peters wrote: > > I have a friend using Fedora 15 and I have asked her keep the system updated, > but > she has fallen behind and now has 300+MB to download (not counting presto if > it > helps). I have searched for a method which would allow me to download them >

Re: Dialup users and keeping a system updated

2012-05-20 Thread Иван Миронов
2012/5/21 Chuck Peters : > > I have a friend using Fedora 15 and I have asked her keep the system > updated, but she has fallen behind and now has 300+MB to download (not > counting presto if it helps).  I have searched for a method which would > allow me to download them on a faster net connection

Setting up Koji question

2012-05-20 Thread Gregory Hosler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, I am setting up a Koji server, and following the instructions given on the Fedora Koji wiki http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Koji/ServerHowTo Part way down, there are directions on Generate a PKCS12 user certificate This is fo

Re: [SOLVED?]: Re: ssh between F16 Xfce and Cygwin

2012-05-20 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 5/20/2012 6:27 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: Yes, at least you've been able to verify for yourself that problem lies on the cygwin box. Otherwise, you may have succumbed to the "I made changes so the problem must be here" syndrome. Ed: My problem was the other way I knew I hadn't changed a

Re: basic systemd question

2012-05-20 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Sunday, May 20, 2012, Brian Wood wrote: > I'm starting to use systemd. I've written a simple unit file and > systemd starts the service during boot. When I manually kill > the process though, it doesn't get restarted the way I expected > it would. Is there an option to specify for that? Tha

Dialup users and keeping a system updated

2012-05-20 Thread Chuck Peters
I have a friend using Fedora 15 and I have asked her keep the system updated, but she has fallen behind and now has 300+MB to download (not counting presto if it helps). I have searched for a method which would allow me to download them on a faster net connection, but I haven't found something sim

Re: [SOLVED?]: Re: ssh between F16 Xfce and Cygwin

2012-05-20 Thread Ed Greshko
On 05/21/2012 05:47 AM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > I did at least one power cycle yesterday on the XP and, as stated above, got > the > failure on XP box today. > > So, this is solved by reason of POM (phase-of-moon). I apologize for the > noise even > though, given at least one power cycle on a

Re: basic systemd question

2012-05-20 Thread Ed Greshko
On 05/21/2012 07:08 AM, Brian Wood wrote: > I'm starting to use systemd. I've written a simple unit file and > systemd starts the service during boot. When I manually kill > the process though, it doesn't get restarted the way I expected > it would. Is there an option to specify for that? Thank

basic systemd question

2012-05-20 Thread Brian Wood
I'm starting to use systemd. I've written a simple unit file and systemd starts the service during boot. When I manually kill the process though, it doesn't get restarted the way I expected it would. Is there an option to specify for that? Thank you. Brian Wood Ebenezer Enterprises http://web

In F16, Atheros AR5008 being restricted to 18mb/s

2012-05-20 Thread JD
$ iwconfig wlan0 wlan0 IEEE 802.11bgn ESSID:"Private" Mode:Managed Frequency:2.452 GHz Access Point: 00:AA:BB:CC:DD:EE Bit Rate=18 Mb/s Tx-Power=27 dBm Retry long limit:7 RTS thr=2346 B Fragment thr=2346 B Power Management:off Link

Re: how to clean /tmp at shutdown?

2012-05-20 Thread Wolfgang S. Rupprecht
Smagin Vladimir <2...@blindage.org> writes: > Hi all. I found that my fedora 16 doesnt clean /tmp at shutdown like any > other linux distributions. How I can fix this issue? Using tmpfs is a wrong > way. Just put this into /sbin/halt.local and make it mode 755. [wolfgang@arbol sbin]$ cat /sbi

[SOLVED?]: Re: ssh between F16 Xfce and Cygwin

2012-05-20 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 5/20/2012 11:39 AM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: On 5/20/2012 8:00 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: It also should be a very simple matter to prove to yourself that the cygwin system is at fault. Just go to your cygwin system, open a window on that system, and ssh to itself. This eliminates the network

Re: Package ode for Octave

2012-05-20 Thread antonio montagnani
Il 20/05/2012 21:08, Joe Zeff ha scritto: On 05/20/2012 11:37 AM, antonio montagnani wrote: in F17 it doesn't install!!! Report it on the F17 test list. It doens't install on F16 either -- Antonio Montagnani Fedora 17 Beta Acer 5670 http://www.campingmonterosa.com

Re: Package ode for Octave

2012-05-20 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/20/2012 11:37 AM, antonio montagnani wrote: in F17 it doesn't install!!! Report it on the F17 test list. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedorap

Re: ssh between F16 Xfce and Cygwin

2012-05-20 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 5/20/2012 8:00 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: It also should be a very simple matter to prove to yourself that the cygwin system is at fault. Just go to your cygwin system, open a window on that system, and ssh to itself. This eliminates the network and since you are going from a system to itself.

Re: ssh between F16 Xfce and Cygwin

2012-05-20 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 5/20/2012 2:54 AM, Gordon Messmer wrote: On 05/19/2012 08:08 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: The iptables on the converted machine is the factory default. The problem is almost certainly not iptables. Unless you've intentionally added some kind of egress filtering, none will be present. I

Re: Package ode for Octave

2012-05-20 Thread antonio montagnani
Il 20/05/2012 19:24, Frank Murphy ha scritto: On 20/05/12 18:21, Antonio M wrote: but octave-ode is missing (and in my opinion it might be the most interesting) Tnx for help -- Antonio Montagnani Skype : amontag52 It was part of octave-forge, last built for Fedora 15. It may work on Fedora

Re: way to flush /var/log/message

2012-05-20 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 5/20/2012 5:20 AM, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/19/2012 11:51 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: Hello: Is there a way to flush output to /etc/log/message so a tail -f catches things when they happen rather than what I think I am seeing as a buf

Re: Package ode for Octave

2012-05-20 Thread antonio montagnani
Il 20/05/2012 19:24, Frank Murphy ha scritto: On 20/05/12 18:21, Antonio M wrote: but octave-ode is missing (and in my opinion it might be the most interesting) Tnx for help -- Antonio Montagnani Skype : amontag52 It was part of octave-forge, last built for Fedora 15. It may work on Fedora

Re: Fedora 16 continously rebooting

2012-05-20 Thread stan
On Sun, 20 May 2012 09:38:24 -0400 Armelius Cameron wrote: > The only "mode" that didn't cause reboot is "emergency" (i.e. changed > "single" to "emergency" as kernel argument in grub, which as Fedora > doc stated doesn't load any init." This is a long shot. But given the above, why then don't

Re: Fedora 16 continously rebooting

2012-05-20 Thread Tim
On Sun, 2012-05-20 at 13:00 -0400, Armelius Cameron wrote: > In my case it finished booting completely. I could even log in if I > type fast enough. Then within a few seconds, it reboots. I suppose I should ask the obvious question: Does it actually "reboot," or does it crash? -- [tim@localhos

Re: ssh between F16 Xfce and Cygwin

2012-05-20 Thread Tim
On Sun, 2012-05-20 at 11:25 -0500, Dave Ihnat wrote: > nobody should run a Windows box connected to the Internet except > through some sort of firewall appliance anyway. A good one. (The > ones built into most cable & DSL modems are marginal at best.) I came across one ADSL modem/router that goe

Re: Package ode for Octave

2012-05-20 Thread Frank Murphy
On 20/05/12 18:21, Antonio M wrote: but octave-ode is missing (and in my opinion it might be the most interesting) Tnx for help -- Antonio Montagnani Skype : amontag52 It was part of octave-forge, last built for Fedora 15. It may work on Fedora 16? http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildin

Re: Package ode for Octave

2012-05-20 Thread Antonio M
2012/5/20 Frank Murphy > On 19/05/12 22:11, antonio montagnani wrote: > >> Where can I find the odepkg rpm for Octave. Any idea?? >> >> Tnx >> > > yum info octave > > -- > Regards, > Frank > "Jack of all, fubars" > > -- > users mailing list > users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe or chan

Re: Package ode for Octave

2012-05-20 Thread Frank Murphy
On 19/05/12 22:11, antonio montagnani wrote: Where can I find the odepkg rpm for Octave. Any idea?? Tnx yum info octave -- Regards, Frank "Jack of all, fubars" -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/ma

Re: Package ode for Octave

2012-05-20 Thread antonio montagnani
Il 20/05/2012 07:54, antonio montagnani ha scritto: Il 19/05/2012 23:11, antonio montagnani ha scritto: Where can I find the odepkg rpm for Octave. Any idea?? Tnx Just for clarification: 1) this package is a package for solving ordinary differential equations and more. 2) can't be installed

Re: Fedora 16 continously rebooting

2012-05-20 Thread Armelius Cameron
On Sunday, May 20, 2012 05:01:35 PM Heinz Diehl wrote: > On 20.05.2012, Armelius Cameron wrote: > > When you saw this, did it > > reboot after finish booting (i.e. get to KDM / GDM ) or was it just at the > > grub menu ? > > It started to boot, but never got into X, it rebooted somewhere in > betw

Re: ssh between F16 Xfce and Cygwin

2012-05-20 Thread Dave Ihnat
On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 01:20:32AM +0930, Tim wrote: > This is the worst OS in the world to do that to. Dropping Windows pants > for a second is enough for it to get rogered by marauding bastards on > the net. That's true...except it shouldn't really matter. Because nobody should run a Windows b

Re: how to clean /tmp at shutdown?

2012-05-20 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 20.05.2012 17:52, schrieb Smagin Vladimir: Fedora handles this with "tmpwatch" and a too large default you can create your own file with oerrides >>> tmpwatch and crones also wrong way. >> >> says who? > I am. In Ubuntu, Gentoo, Suse and others no crons, tmpwatch, tmpfs and other

Re: how to clean /tmp at shutdown?

2012-05-20 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 20.05.2012 17:52, schrieb Smagin Vladimir: Fedora handles this with "tmpwatch" and a too large default you can create your own file with oerrides >>> tmpwatch and crones also wrong way. >> >> says who? > I am. In Ubuntu, Gentoo, Suse and others no crons, tmpwatch, tmpfs and other

Re: how to clean /tmp at shutdown?

2012-05-20 Thread Smagin Vladimir
>>>  Fedora handles this with "tmpwatch" and a too large default >>>  you can create your own file with oerrides >>  tmpwatch and crones also wrong way. > > says who? I am. In Ubuntu, Gentoo, Suse and others no crons, tmpwatch, tmpfs and other bycicles. All clean. >>>  no reason to remove ALL fro

Re: ssh between F16 Xfce and Cygwin

2012-05-20 Thread Tim
On Sun, 2012-05-20 at 02:54 -0700, Gordon Messmer wrote: > Disable your Windows firewall temporarily Ye gads! This is the worst OS in the world to do that to. Dropping Windows pants for a second is enough for it to get rogered by marauding bastards on the net. I've seen a friend's PC get rooted

Re: how to clean /tmp at shutdown?

2012-05-20 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 20.05.2012 17:45, schrieb Smagin Vladimir: >> Fedora handles this with "tmpwatch" and a too large default >> you can create your own file with oerrides > > tmpwatch and crones also wrong way. says who? >> no reason to remove ALL from /tmp while shutdown >> why do you bother about? > > beca

Re: how to clean /tmp at shutdown?

2012-05-20 Thread Smagin Vladimir
> Fedora handles this with "tmpwatch" and a too large default > you can create your own file with oerrides tmpwatch and crones also wrong way. > no reason to remove ALL from /tmp while shutdown > why do you bother about? because cleaning /tmp is a normal system function. -- users mailing list

Re: OpenOffice vs LibreOffice

2012-05-20 Thread Tim
On Sat, 2012-05-19 at 13:35 -0700, Gordon Messmer wrote: > It probably already has: > http://people.gnome.org/~michael/blog/2012-04-26-ooo-comparison.html "Sadly, most end-users care remarkably little about licenses - clicking through them without even reading; that is something we should try to f

Re: how to clean /tmp at shutdown?

2012-05-20 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 20.05.2012 17:37, schrieb Smagin Vladimir: > Hi all. I found that my fedora 16 doesnt clean /tmp at shutdown like any > other linux distributions. How I can fix this issue? Using tmpfs is a wrong > way. Fedora handles this with "tmpwatch" and a too large default you can create your own file

how to clean /tmp at shutdown?

2012-05-20 Thread Smagin Vladimir
Hi all. I found that my fedora 16 doesnt clean /tmp at shutdown like any other linux distributions. How I can fix this issue? Using tmpfs is a wrong way. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/list

Re: Fedora 16 continously rebooting

2012-05-20 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 20.05.2012, Armelius Cameron wrote: > When you saw this, did it > reboot after finish booting (i.e. get to KDM / GDM ) or was it just at the > grub > menu ? It started to boot, but never got into X, it rebooted somewhere in between. Nothing worked, and after a few days, just before trying

Re: ssh between F16 Xfce and Cygwin

2012-05-20 Thread Ed Greshko
On 05/20/2012 12:38 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > Thanks for the reply. > > First section yes. > > On the telnet cygwin 22, I am getting Connection refused. And I just verified > again > that a ping works. > > As I mentioned to Joe, I need to get far enough along on my F16 install to > get some

Re: Tasque Dependency Failure

2012-05-20 Thread Richard Heck
On 05/19/2012 11:13 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Sat, 19 May 2012 11:04:41 -0400, RH (Richard) wrote: Try to install tasque I get: /home/rgheck/> sudo yum install tasque [snip] --> Running transaction check ---> Package mono-extras.x86_64 0:2.10.5-1.fc16 will be installed ---> Package m

Re: Fedora 16 continously rebooting

2012-05-20 Thread Armelius Cameron
On Sunday, May 20, 2012 11:13:39 AM Heinz Diehl wrote: > On 20.05.2012, Armelius Cameron wrote: > > This is about the strangest thing I've seen since I've used linux (started > > in Redhat 5... ) > > Did you try to load the BIOS defaults? As mentioned above, I saw the > same thing before, and this

Re: Fedora 16 continously rebooting

2012-05-20 Thread Armelius Cameron
On Sunday, May 20, 2012 12:45:01 PM Alan Cox wrote: > > Is it not possible that anything in the software somehow is causing this ? > > It is certainly possible, however the only thing that ought to be capable > of causing an accidental reboot is the kernel (hence the 'try old kernel' > comment) or

Re: way to flush /var/log/message

2012-05-20 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 20.05.2012 14:52, schrieb suvayu ali: > On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 2:20 PM, Mikkel L. Ellertson > wrote: >> >> What you are seeing is the last last 10 lines of the file, and >> then new additions as it is added to the file. This is the way >> tail -f works. You may want to read the man or info p

Re: way to flush /var/log/message

2012-05-20 Thread suvayu ali
On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 2:20 PM, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > > What you are seeing is the last last 10 lines of the file, and > then new additions as it is added to the file. This is the way > tail -f works. You may want to read the man or info page on tail. Maybe `less +F /path/to/file` would b

Re: way to flush /var/log/message

2012-05-20 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/19/2012 11:51 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > Hello: > > Is there a way to flush output to /etc/log/message so a tail -f > catches things when they happen rather than what I think I am > seeing as a buffer hold-until-full delay? > > Thanks in a

Re: Fedora 16 continously rebooting

2012-05-20 Thread Alan Cox
> Is it not possible that anything in the software somehow is causing this ? It is certainly possible, however the only thing that ought to be capable of causing an accidental reboot is the kernel (hence the 'try old kernel' comment) or maybe the X server [try booting "norhgb 3"] -- users mailin

Re: updates-testing.repo security updates-only?

2012-05-20 Thread David
On 5/20/2012 6:17 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: > On 20/05/12 11:06, David wrote: > _broken=1 >>> >>> RFE filed: >>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=823245 >> >> >> I see. An interesting idea. Not that it matters :-) but I agree. >> > > Maybe If there more cc's ;) Had not thought of that

Re: updates-testing.repo security updates-only?

2012-05-20 Thread Frank Murphy
On 20/05/12 11:06, David wrote: _broken=1 RFE filed: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=823245 I see. An interesting idea. Not that it matters :-) but I agree. Maybe If there more cc's ;) -- Regards, Frank "Jack of all, fubars" -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.o

Re: updates-testing.repo security updates-only?

2012-05-20 Thread David
On 5/20/2012 5:59 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: > On 20/05/12 10:54, David wrote: > >> >> I, personally, know of no GUI that does this. The CLI for this would be: > > Not a GUI problem, a config option > >> >> yum update --security >> >> What is wrong with that? > > It's not as tidy as > cat /some/*r

Re: updates-testing.repo security updates-only?

2012-05-20 Thread Frank Murphy
On 20/05/12 10:54, David wrote: I, personally, know of no GUI that does this. The CLI for this would be: Not a GUI problem, a config option yum update --security What is wrong with that? It's not as tidy as cat /some/*repo security=1 keepcache=1 skip_broken=1 RFE filed: https://bugzill

Re: ssh between F16 Xfce and Cygwin

2012-05-20 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 05/19/2012 08:08 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: The iptables on the converted machine is the factory default. The problem is almost certainly not iptables. Unless you've intentionally added some kind of egress filtering, none will be present. I looked in /var/log/messages and didn't see an

Re: updates-testing.repo security updates-only?

2012-05-20 Thread David
On 5/20/2012 5:26 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: > On 20/05/12 10:20, David wrote: >> On 5/20/2012 4:35 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: >>> As it's a general question asking here. >>> Will >>> security=1 within the repo file, >>> allow me to update testing with security fixes _only_ > >> There is a plugin: >> >>

Re: updates-testing.repo security updates-only?

2012-05-20 Thread Frank Murphy
On 20/05/12 10:20, David wrote: On 5/20/2012 4:35 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: As it's a general question asking here. Will security=1 within the repo file, allow me to update testing with security fixes _only_ There is a plugin: yum-plugin-security Yes, but it seems to be on the command line o

Re: updates-testing.repo security updates-only?

2012-05-20 Thread David
On 5/20/2012 4:35 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: > As it's a general question asking here. > > Will > security=1 within the repo file, > allow me to update testing with security fixes _only_ > There is a plugin: yum-plugin-security -- David -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Fedora 16 continously rebooting

2012-05-20 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 20.05.2012, Armelius Cameron wrote: > This is about the strangest thing I've seen since I've used linux (started in > Redhat 5... ) Did you try to load the BIOS defaults? As mentioned above, I saw the same thing before, and this was the solution. Don't ask me why, it's totally irrational, bu

updates-testing.repo security updates-only?

2012-05-20 Thread Frank Murphy
As it's a general question asking here. Will security=1 within the repo file, allow me to update testing with security fixes _only_ -- Regards, Frank "Jack of all, fubars" -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproje

Re: way to flush /var/log/message

2012-05-20 Thread JD
On 05/19/2012 11:51 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: Hello: Is there a way to flush output to /etc/log/message so a tail -f catches things when they happen rather than what I think I am seeing as a buffer hold-until-full delay? Thanks in advance, Paul output of what? See logger (1) - a