Re: Bandwidth Monitor for GNOME

2012-05-30 Thread JD
On 05/30/2012 10:06 PM, Junayeed Ahnaf Nirjhor wrote: Hello, Is there any good bandwidth monitor for GNOME fedora (Like KDE network widget or BITMETER OS) ? If yes, please give me a link -- Junayeed Ahnaf Nirjhor Developer, Hulu & Diaspora

Re: I do think the world is coming to a end

2012-05-30 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/30/2012 08:01 PM, Tim wrote: On the one hand, it says calls do not pass through it (it just organises the two parties to connect to each other). And, on the other hand, it talks about not exposing the calling party's IPs, which is an impossible thing to do for peer-to-peer. The only way t

Re: GNOME3 and Modifying command-line arguments

2012-05-30 Thread Joachim Backes
On 05/31/2012 07:24 AM, Khemara Lyn wrote: > Dear All, > > Normally, I could go "Applications -> System Tools -> Terminal" and the > app "gnome-terminal" would start and po up a new terminal window with a > command prompt. > > The default terminal size is not optimal for me and i would like to

GNOME3 and Modifying command-line arguments

2012-05-30 Thread Khemara Lyn
Dear All, Normally, I could go "Applications -> System Tools -> Terminal" and the app "gnome-terminal" would start and po up a new terminal window with a command prompt. The default terminal size is not optimal for me and i would like to adjust it a bit. With previous version (GNOME2), I cou

Re: Bandwidth Monitor for GNOME

2012-05-30 Thread Marvin Kosmal
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 10:06 PM, Junayeed Ahnaf Nirjhor wrote: > Hello, > > Is there any good bandwidth monitor for GNOME fedora (Like KDE network > widget or BITMETER OS) ? > > If yes, please give me a link > -- > Junayeed Ahnaf Nirjhor > Developer, Hulu & Diaspora > Twitter - @Nirjhor > > -- >

Bandwidth Monitor for GNOME

2012-05-30 Thread Junayeed Ahnaf Nirjhor
Hello, Is there any good bandwidth monitor for GNOME fedora (Like KDE network widget or BITMETER OS) ? If yes, please give me a link -- Junayeed Ahnaf Nirjhor Developer, Hulu & Diaspora Twitter - @Nirjhor -- use

Re: F17 preupgrade

2012-05-30 Thread jarmo
Wed, 30 May 2012 18:12:13 +0200 suvayu ali kirjoitti: > If copying text to the email is not possible, you could take a picture > with a camera and put it up on some service like imagebin and link > from your email. In short, more information helps, just complaining > doesn't. > > GL > I sure b

Re: Solution to RAID /boot issue in fc17?

2012-05-30 Thread Tim
On Wed, 2012-05-30 at 18:25 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > The dirty little secret, that nobody wants to talk about, is > that an upgrade codepath is rarely used in RHEL. Nearly all RHEL > installs, in the field, are fresh installs. > > The SOP for enterprise-y Linux seats is to clone pre-buil

Re: I do think the world is coming to a end

2012-05-30 Thread Tim
On Wed, 2012-05-30 at 22:03 +0100, Piscium wrote: > Although the article says that "calls do not pass through supernodes" > one wonders if that is really true, The article is conflicting, in that regard. On the one hand, it says calls do not pass through it (it just organises the two parties to c

Re: I do think the world is coming to a end

2012-05-30 Thread Tim
On Thu, 2012-05-31 at 00:12 +0100, Piscium wrote: > The issue is how to convince my relatives and friends with > whom I use Skype to switch to something else You have two choices: Find something better, for them. But they're going to want something that can talk to Skype, too, so they can contac

Re: Can I remove sendmail?

2012-05-30 Thread Tim
On Wed, 2012-05-30 at 23:14 +0200, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: > I really don't know why a regular desktop user > is forced to have such infrastructure installed and operational out of > the box only to allow some poorly designed programs to pass messages > to > the user. I think it's one of that o

Re: After installing F17 I lost access to a specific directory of my external disk

2012-05-30 Thread Tim
On Wed, 2012-05-30 at 17:24 +0100, Jonathan Allen wrote: > all our user IDs (and on backup CDs and DVDs) start from 200. > It's kind of annoying having to click 'other' before beibg able to log > in. I should have thought having such a low ID would cause more problems than you mention. Low IDs ar

Re: Can I remove sendmail?

2012-05-30 Thread jdow
On 2012/05/30 18:21, sergiocmailbox-fedoraus...@yahoo.com.br wrote: --- Em qua, 30/5/12, Andre Costa escreveu: De: Andre Costa Assunto: Re: Can I remove sendmail? Para: sergiocmailbox-fedoraus...@yahoo.com.br, "Community support for Fedora users" Data: Quarta-feira, 30 de Maio de 2012, 21:45

Re: Can I remove sendmail?

2012-05-30 Thread sergiocmailbox-fedorausers
--- Em qua, 30/5/12, Andre Costa escreveu: De: Andre Costa Assunto: Re: Can I remove sendmail? Para: sergiocmailbox-fedoraus...@yahoo.com.br, "Community support for Fedora users" Data: Quarta-feira, 30 de Maio de 2012, 21:45 Hi, On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 5:55 PM, wrote: --- Em qua, 30

Re: USB boot problem -

2012-05-30 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 30/05/12 19:12, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: I have a new Gigabyte GA-E350N Motherboard set up that I want to install F17 to from a USB flash drive but it refuses to recognize it. I have made what I think are the required changes to boot order but it never seems to "see

Re: Can I remove sendmail?

2012-05-30 Thread Andre Costa
Hi, On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 5:55 PM, wrote: > > > --- Em qua, 30/5/12, jdow escreveu: > > > De: jdow > > Assunto: Re: Can I remove sendmail? > > Para: sergiocmailbox-fedoraus...@yahoo.com.br, "Community support for > Fedora users" > > Data: Quarta-feira, 30 de Maio de 2012, 12:04 > > On 2012/0

Re: FC17 does not include SCTP kernel module

2012-05-30 Thread Ed Greshko
On 05/31/2012 12:42 AM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > # yum install kernel-modules-extra > Which brings up an interesting question. [root@meimei ~]# uname -r 3.3.7-1.fc16.i686.PAE [root@meimei ~]# yum install kernel-PAE-modules-extra Loaded plugins: downloadonly, langpacks, presto, refresh-pa

Re: remote access via VNC

2012-05-30 Thread Tommy Pham
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > the main question is where you missed my post about the package > replying "I just installed that package prior to your response" > but who cares, now it works :-) > > Sorry, I meant I just installed the tigervnc package. It's been a lo

Re: I do think the world is coming to a end

2012-05-30 Thread Piscium
On 30 May 2012 23:36, Fernando Cassia wrote: > > > On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 7:21 PM, Piscium wrote: >> >> . What I would wish is a return >> to the more nuanced approach to data collection that existed before >> 9/11, in particular in Europe. I don't believe that the current >> approach where gove

USB boot problem -

2012-05-30 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
I have a new Gigabyte GA-E350N Motherboard set up that I want to install F17 to from a USB flash drive but it refuses to recognize it. I have made what I think are the required changes to boot order but it never seems to "see" the flash drive, always wants to boot from an old fedora

espeakup speech consistancy problems

2012-05-30 Thread Hussain Kadhem
Hello. I'm currently running Fedora 17, installed originally as a beta. I've built and installed both speakup and espeakup. Speakup is working without a hitch. However, the sound output on espeakup is very inconsistent; it keeps hanging and response time is slow. Not sure what the issue is -- runni

Re: I do think the world is coming to a end

2012-05-30 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 7:21 PM, Piscium wrote: > . What I would wish is a return > to the more nuanced approach to data collection that existed before > 9/11, in particular in Europe. I don't believe that the current > approach where governments know everything about us makes us any more > secur

Re: Preupgrade failure F15->F17, cannot find an Adobe related file on any mirror.

2012-05-30 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Quicksort writes: Thank you, Sam, but how should I proceed ? Also, if I disable Adobe' s Yum repository can I re-enable it later (how ?) so as to get flashplayer updates. You should find the repository file in /etc/yum.repos.d Look for something that refers to Adobe's stuff. Edit it, and chan

Re: Solution to RAID /boot issue in fc17?

2012-05-30 Thread Sam Varshavchik
jdow writes: The big question here is whether this is infecting the RHEL installer or not. I suspect install problems of this magnitude would really upset the RHEL people. The only save would be to have the competition even worse. Nope. It won't. The dirty little secret, that nobody wants to t

Re: Preupgrade failure F15->F17, cannot find an Adobe related file on any mirror.

2012-05-30 Thread Reindl Harald
do not top-post, however, now it does no longer matter... one major rule for dist-upgrades is to remove/disbale all packages and repos which may introduce troubles before you can install anything after the sucessful upgrade and have only to care not remove packages needed by the basesystem (needs

Re: I do think the world is coming to a end

2012-05-30 Thread Piscium
On 30 May 2012 22:41, Alan Cox wrote: >> My concern really is that now it is much easier for the American >> security services to have access to everybody's communications. > > It's not changed. Read the analysis on things that have leaked out in > court cases. Skype seems to have all the usual in

Re: ssh-agent no longer started with 3.3 kernels (F16/17)?

2012-05-30 Thread Phil Meyer
On 05/29/2012 04:27 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: On Tue, 29 May 2012 16:04:06 -0600 Phil Meyer wrote: On 05/29/2012 03:00 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: ... $ ssh-add Could not open a connection to your authentication agent. ... Just a note to say that as far as I can tell, it works fine on a fresh

Re: remote access via VNC

2012-05-30 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 31.05.2012 00:10, schrieb Tommy Pham: > On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 2:54 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> Am 30.05.2012 23:32, schrieb Tommy Pham: Name : tigervnc-server-module Architektur : x86_64 Version: 1.1.0 Ausgabe: 3.fc16 Größe : 606 k Repo: i

Re: Preupgrade failure F15->F17, cannot find an Adobe related file on any mirror.

2012-05-30 Thread Quicksort
Thank you, Sam, but how should I proceed ? Also, if I disable Adobe' s Yum repository can I re-enable it later (how ?) so as to get flashplayer updates. Thanks. Le mercredi 30 mai 2012 à 18:02 -0400, Sam Varshavchik a écrit : > Quicksort writes: > > > Platform: F15 x64 (—>F17) > > > > Hello ev

Re: Solution to RAID /boot issue in fc17?

2012-05-30 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 30.05.2012 15:43, schrieb Alan Cox: >> Now, if your partition table starts at sector 63, you're still boned. But > > Nope. You can do it by hand. confirmed i moved /boot to 4096 to have peace the next years on > 20 F15 installs before upgrade to F16 > Basically the Fedora installer is a

Re: remote access via VNC

2012-05-30 Thread Tommy Pham
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 2:54 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 30.05.2012 23:32, schrieb Tommy Pham: >>> Name       : tigervnc-server-module >>> Architektur : x86_64 >>> Version    : 1.1.0 >>> Ausgabe    : 3.fc16 >>> Größe : 606 k >>> Repo        : installed >>> Zusammenfassung     : TigerVNC modu

Re: Solution to RAID /boot issue in fc17?

2012-05-30 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Alan Cox writes: On Tue, 29 May 2012 23:02:14 -0400 Sam Varshavchik wrote: > If your partition table starts at sector 63, you're most likely boned, > because grub2 too fat, with RAID-1 loaded. Thats complete crap. The Fedora installer is utterly broken here. Grub2 is just fine. If you do the

Re: Preupgrade failure F15->F17, cannot find an Adobe related file on any mirror.

2012-05-30 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Quicksort writes: Platform: F15 x64 (—>F17)   Hello everybody,   Preupgrade aborts upon the following:   “Failure: repodata/filelists.xml.gz from preupgrade-adobe-linux-i386 (Errno 256). No more mirrors to try”   I am wondering if this file is actually needed on a x64 install.   If it’s not, pre

How to turn off the pestering narrator voice

2012-05-30 Thread Paul Smith
Dear All, I have installed F17, and a narrator voice from the computer is always telling me what I am doing on the computer. How can one turn off this pestering voice? Thanks in advance, Paul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http

Re: remote access via VNC

2012-05-30 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 30.05.2012 23:32, schrieb Tommy Pham: >> Name : tigervnc-server-module >> Architektur : x86_64 >> Version: 1.1.0 >> Ausgabe: 3.fc16 >> Größe : 606 k >> Repo: installed >> Zusammenfassung : TigerVNC module to Xorg >> URL: http://www.tigervnc.com >> Lizenz :

Re: Can I remove sendmail?

2012-05-30 Thread joe
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Re: Can I remove sendmail?

2012-05-30 Thread sergiocmailbox-fedorausers
--- Em qua, 30/5/12, Mateusz Marzantowicz escreveu: > De: Mateusz Marzantowicz > Assunto: Re: Can I remove sendmail? > Para: users@lists.fedoraproject.org > Data: Quarta-feira, 30 de Maio de 2012, 18:14 > sergiocmailbox-fedoraus...@yahoo.com.br: > > Hi, we have the sendmail.service enabled by

Re: I do think the world is coming to a end

2012-05-30 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 6:41 PM, Alan Cox wrote: > I would expect the same of the many standards based gateways to the POTS > network. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communications_Assistance_for_Law_Enforcement_Act#Technical_implementation FC -- During times of Universal Deceit, telling the

Re: I do think the world is coming to a end

2012-05-30 Thread Alan Cox
> My concern really is that now it is much easier for the American > security services to have access to everybody's communications. It's not changed. Read the analysis on things that have leaked out in court cases. Skype seems to have all the usual intercept facilities required by law enforcement

Re: I do think the world is coming to a end

2012-05-30 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 6:03 PM, Piscium wrote: > If I was a shady character I definitely would not use Skype! No need to be a shady character to appreciate the virtues of Jitsi ( www.jitsi.org). FC -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription opti

Re: remote access via VNC

2012-05-30 Thread Tommy Pham
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 1:42 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 30.05.2012 22:33, schrieb Tommy Pham: >> I still can't seem to get this right :(.  This is what I have. >> >> [root@ogx280 init.d]# rpm -qa|grep -i vnc >> gtk-vnc2-0.5.0-2.fc17.i686 >> gtk-vnc-0.5.0-2.fc17.i686 >> gvnc-0.5.0-2.fc17.i68

Re: Problem with GPG-KEY of Adobe repo

2012-05-30 Thread Paul Smith
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 8:56 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: >> > Just curious: how does the OP get a 11.2.202.235 release: mine says >> > 11.2.202.233 and no update >> >> The repo is not up to date, but you can get the newest rpm from Adobe >> site, Ranjan. >> > > Thanks, Paul! > > But, isn't your y

Re: Can I remove sendmail?

2012-05-30 Thread Mateusz Marzantowicz
sergiocmailbox-fedoraus...@yahoo.com.br: > Hi, we have the sendmail.service enabled by default even in the minimal > installation. > I only use Thunderbird as my email client. > May I uninstall sendmail? Is it needed for something I'm not aware of? > > Regards. It was already mentioned that sendma

Preupgrade failure F15->F17, cannot find an Adobe related file on any mirror.

2012-05-30 Thread Quicksort
Platform: F15 x64 (—>F17) Hello everybody, Preupgrade aborts upon the following: “Failure: repodata/filelists.xml.gz from preupgrade-adobe-linux-i386 (Errno 256). No more mirrors to try” I am wondering if this file is actually needed on a x64 install. If it’s not, preupgrade will have a hard t

Re: I do think the world is coming to a end

2012-05-30 Thread Piscium
On 30 May 2012 17:19, Jim wrote: > I'm sorry that I may have posted this to the wrong location, but the Linux > world has got to see this. > > Won't  Microsoft have a run in, with the GPL-3 ? > > http://arstechnica.com/business/2012/05/skype-replaces-p2p-supernodes-with-linux-boxes-hosted-by-micro

Re: Can I remove sendmail?

2012-05-30 Thread sergiocmailbox-fedorausers
--- Em qua, 30/5/12, jdow escreveu: > De: jdow > Assunto: Re: Can I remove sendmail? > Para: sergiocmailbox-fedoraus...@yahoo.com.br, "Community support for Fedora > users" > Data: Quarta-feira, 30 de Maio de 2012, 12:04 > On 2012/05/30 04:58, sergiocmailbox-fedoraus...@yahoo.com.br > wrote:

Re: remote access via VNC

2012-05-30 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 30.05.2012 22:33, schrieb Tommy Pham: > I still can't seem to get this right :(. This is what I have. > > [root@ogx280 init.d]# rpm -qa|grep -i vnc > gtk-vnc2-0.5.0-2.fc17.i686 > gtk-vnc-0.5.0-2.fc17.i686 > gvnc-0.5.0-2.fc17.i686 > tigervnc-license-1.1.0-5.fc17.noarch > libvncserver-0.9.8.2-

Re: remote access via VNC

2012-05-30 Thread Tommy Pham
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 1:53 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: > On 05/29/2012 01:26 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: >> >> On 05/29/2012 12:00 PM, Tommy Pham wrote: >>> >>> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Rick Stevens >>> wrote: On 05/29/2012 10:26 AM, Tommy Pham wrote: > > > Hi, > >

Re: Problem with GPG-KEY of Adobe repo

2012-05-30 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Wed, 30 May 2012 20:29:47 +0100 Paul Smith wrote: > On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 8:14 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > > Just curious: how does the OP get a 11.2.202.235 release: mine says > > 11.2.202.233 and no update > > The repo is not up to date, but you can get the newest rpm from Adobe > sit

upgrading with preupgrade-cli --vnc

2012-05-30 Thread Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak
Hi all, What grub2 secret sauce do I need to upgrade remote servers to F17 using vnc? This is the first step, clearly: preupgrade-cli --vnc=apassword --ip=192.168.0.240 --gateway=192.168.0.128 --netmask=255.255.255.0 --dns=192.168.0.2 "Fedora 17 (Beefy Miracle)" However, this installs the

Re: Problem with GPG-KEY of Adobe repo

2012-05-30 Thread Paul Smith
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 8:14 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > Just curious: how does the OP get a 11.2.202.235 release: mine says > 11.2.202.233 and no update The repo is not up to date, but you can get the newest rpm from Adobe site, Ranjan. Paul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.o

Re: Problem with GPG-KEY of Adobe repo

2012-05-30 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Wed, 30 May 2012 20:54:57 +0200 Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Wed, 30 May 2012 19:17:24 +0100, Paul Smith wrote: > > > Dear All, > > > > I have installed Adobe repo for installing the flash-plugin. However, > > when I try to install it, I get the following error: > > > >

Re: Problem with GPG-KEY of Adobe repo

2012-05-30 Thread Paul Smith
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 7:54 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: >> I have installed Adobe repo for installing the flash-plugin. However, >> when I try to install it, I get the following error: >> >> --- >> >> # yum install flash-pluginLoaded plugins: presto

Re: Problem with GPG-KEY of Adobe repo

2012-05-30 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 30 May 2012 19:17:24 +0100, Paul Smith wrote: > Dear All, > > I have installed Adobe repo for installing the flash-plugin. However, > when I try to install it, I get the following error: > > --- > > # yum install flash-pluginLoaded plugins

Problem with GPG-KEY of Adobe repo

2012-05-30 Thread Paul Smith
Dear All, I have installed Adobe repo for installing the flash-plugin. However, when I try to install it, I get the following error: --- # yum install flash-pluginLoaded plugins: presto, refresh-packagekit Resolving Dependencies --> Running transac

Re: Downloading spins (NOT via torrent)

2012-05-30 Thread Frank Murphy
On 30/05/12 19:02, Joe Wulf wrote: Is there a normal place (http/ftp) for downloading the spins? I've been looking around the fedora download page and the only option being pushed is torrents, which are strictly prohibited at where I work. Thank you. http://mirror.karneval.cz/pub/linux/fedora

Re: Downloading spins (NOT via torrent)

2012-05-30 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, 30 May 2012 11:02:40 -0700 (PDT) Joe Wulf wrote: > Is there a normal place (http/ftp) for downloading the spins?  I've > been looking around the fedora download page and the only option > being pushed is torrents, which are strictly prohibited at where I > work. Yes... go to the spin dow

Downloading spins (NOT via torrent)

2012-05-30 Thread Joe Wulf
Is there a normal place (http/ftp) for downloading the spins?  I've been looking around the fedora download page and the only option being pushed is torrents, which are strictly prohibited at where I work. Thank you. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change s

FC17 netstat does not report SCTP associations properly

2012-05-30 Thread Peter Butler
This issue appears to have been introduced with FC17 as it was working properly with FC16. Basically, when listing SCTP associations via netstat (i.e. "netstat --sctp"), an error is displayed (see below). Servers appear to be listed without issue - although that could just be due to the specif

Re: F17 upgrade dirty disc dialog

2012-05-30 Thread Rick Stevens
On 05/30/2012 05:52 AM, Mark Haney wrote: On 05/29/2012 02:16 PM, Mark C. Allman wrote: Create a file in the root directory ("/") named "forcefsck". This will force fsck to run and clean the file systems when you reboot. The file contains one line and lists the options that you want to pass t

Re: FC17 does not include SCTP kernel module

2012-05-30 Thread Peter Butler
Thanks Michael, I am now up and running with SCTP! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away:

Re: FC17 does not include SCTP kernel module

2012-05-30 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Peter Butler wrote: > (1) The system I am installing to does not have direct Internet access and > thus cannot do a 'yum' to an external repository. I can only install > what's on the FC17 DVD ISO or via RPM (that I download from a separate > machine). I do not know if kernel-modules-extra is on

Re: Can I remove sendmail?

2012-05-30 Thread Bryn M. Reeves
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/30/2012 05:31 PM, jdow wrote: > It's been covered as a problem in that it is not a problem - at > least Who said it was a problem? It's just how it works.. > on the RHEL trees. SL2 has this sequence of links: $ ll > /usr/sbin/sendmail lrwxrwxrw

Re: FC17 does not include SCTP kernel module

2012-05-30 Thread Peter Butler
A couple of issues with that - hopefully not a big deal: (1) The system I am installing to does not have direct Internet access and thus cannot do a 'yum' to an external repository. I can only install what's on the FC17 DVD ISO or via RPM (that I download from a separate machine). (2) My arch is

Re: FC17 does not include SCTP kernel module

2012-05-30 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Peter Butler wrote: > FC17 does not include the SCTP kernel module, as it had before (i.e. in > FC16 etc.) > > I can't find the FC17 kernel-modules-extra RPM for it, nor even the FC17 > kernel source RPM to compile it myself! First off, please send plain-text e-mail. The SCTP kernel module is in

FC17 does not include SCTP kernel module

2012-05-30 Thread Peter Butler
FC17 does not include the SCTP kernel module, as it had before (i.e. in FC16 etc.) I can't find the FC17 kernel-modules-extra RPM for it, nor even the FC17 kernel source RPM to compile it myself! Help! Peter Butler Software Engineer Performance Technologies 40 Hines Road, Suite 500 Ottawa, ON

Re: I do think the world is coming to a end

2012-05-30 Thread Bryn M. Reeves
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/30/2012 05:19 PM, Jim wrote: > I'm sorry that I may have posted this to the wrong location, but > the Linux world has got to see this. If it's the end of the world as we know it I feel fine. :-) > Won't Microsoft have a run in, with the GPL-3

Re: After installing F17 I lost access to a specific directory of my external disk

2012-05-30 Thread Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak
On 05/30/2012 12:24 PM, Jonathan Allen wrote: The reason I'm asking is that Fedora recently changed from starting user ID numbers with 500 to 1000, and there's a chance you might have been bit by it. Where can I configure this? We have a network with a variety of versions of Fedora, and all ou

Re: Can I remove sendmail?

2012-05-30 Thread jdow
On 2012/05/30 08:21, Bryn M. Reeves wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/30/2012 04:06 PM, jdow wrote: On 2012/05/30 07:51, Bryn M. Reeves wrote: On 05/30/2012 03:23 PM, sergiocmailbox-fedoraus...@yahoo.com.br wrote: ..and I also figured it's required for some basic pac

Re: After installing F17 I lost access to a specific directory of my external disk

2012-05-30 Thread Jonathan Allen
> The reason I'm asking is that Fedora recently changed from starting > user ID numbers with 500 to 1000, and there's a chance you might > have been bit by it. Where can I configure this? We have a network with a variety of versions of Fedora, and all our user IDs (and on backup CDs and DVDs) sta

I do think the world is coming to a end

2012-05-30 Thread Jim
I'm sorry that I may have posted this to the wrong location, but the Linux world has got to see this. Won't Microsoft have a run in, with the GPL-3 ? http://arstechnica.com/business/2012/05/skype-replaces-p2p-supernodes-with-linux-boxes-hosted-by-microsoft/ -- users mailing list users@lists

Re: After installing F17 I lost access to a specific directory of my external disk

2012-05-30 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/30/2012 09:08 AM, Steven Stern wrote: Did your user id (the number, not the name) of your account change? Good thought here. Going further, was it a fresh install or an upgrade, and if an upgrade, was F16 an upgrade or fresh install? The reason I'm asking is that Fedora recently chang

Re: F17 preupgrade

2012-05-30 Thread suvayu ali
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 5:44 PM, jarmo wrote: > If you do distro for people, make sure u understand, that > persons like me, 60 old want to use it. I realise it can be difficult to do things precisely with age, but still I would like to say if you want help with your issue, you need to provide co

Re: After installing F17 I lost access to a specific directory of my external disk

2012-05-30 Thread Paul Smith
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Steven Stern wrote: >> With F16 I could access to a certain directory of my external disk. >> Now, after installing F17, I cannot any longer access to the mentioned >> directory of my external disk. Any help? >> > Did your user id (the number, not the name) of your

Re: After installing F17 I lost access to a specific directory of my external disk

2012-05-30 Thread Steven Stern
On 05/30/2012 10:53 AM, Paul Smith wrote: > Dear All, > > With F16 I could access to a certain directory of my external disk. > Now, after installing F17, I cannot any longer access to the mentioned > directory of my external disk. Any help? > > Thanks in advance, > > Paul Did your user id (the

Re: After installing F17 I lost access to a specific directory of my external disk

2012-05-30 Thread joe
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Re: Can I remove sendmail?

2012-05-30 Thread joe
Title: ecard Sendmail is a MTA "Mail Transport Agent" Thunderbird is a mail client. Thunderbird talks to an MTA. If you are running a mail sever on this machine you will need an MTA, Sendmail is as good as any. You should consider running Dovecot "IMAP server" with S

After installing F17 I lost access to a specific directory of my external disk

2012-05-30 Thread Paul Smith
Dear All, With F16 I could access to a certain directory of my external disk. Now, after installing F17, I cannot any longer access to the mentioned directory of my external disk. Any help? Thanks in advance, Paul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subs

F17 preupgrade

2012-05-30 Thread jarmo
First, preupgrade-cli does not work, stops in some .py stuff. Can't get info, b'cause another comp. No problem, pure preupgrade went smoothly trough, new 17 all ok, so far. When closing comp kernel panic, again can't produce message here, but remember, that can't find shutdown.sh script was one of

Re: Can I remove sendmail?

2012-05-30 Thread Bryn M. Reeves
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/30/2012 04:06 PM, jdow wrote: > On 2012/05/30 07:51, Bryn M. Reeves wrote: > >> On 05/30/2012 03:23 PM, sergiocmailbox-fedoraus...@yahoo.com.br >> wrote: >>> ..and I also figured it's required for some basic packages, so >>> I'll just disable it

Re: Solution to RAID /boot issue in fc17?

2012-05-30 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/30/2012 06:46 AM, Alan Cox wrote: In order to force you to test enterprise features Only if they send me a red T-shirt to wear while I'm testing them. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailm

Re: Solution to RAID /boot issue in fc17?

2012-05-30 Thread jdow
On 2012/05/30 06:43, Alan Cox wrote: On Tue, 29 May 2012 23:02:14 -0400 Sam Varshavchik wrote: Alex writes: Hi, I believe the ability to have /boot on RAID was removed in fc15 so in fc16, That's news to me. Both F15 and F16 were perfectly happy with /boot on RAID-1, for me. I must admit t

Re: OT: Very slow download of Fedora-17 via BitTorrent

2012-05-30 Thread Andre Goree
On 05/29/2012 07:10 PM, Steven Stern wrote: On 05/29/2012 02:40 PM, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: Downloading Fedora-17 via bittorrent is going very slowly, averaging about 150 Kbytes/sec on a connection that usually achieves about 300 Kbytes/sec. More interesting is that the connection is useless fo

Re: Can I remove sendmail?

2012-05-30 Thread jdow
On 2012/05/30 07:51, Bryn M. Reeves wrote: On 05/30/2012 03:23 PM, sergiocmailbox-fedoraus...@yahoo.com.br wrote: ..and I also figured it's required for some basic packages, so I'll just disable its service. Thanks. I think things should depend on "MTA" or "smtpdaemon" rather than sendmail it

Re: Can I remove sendmail?

2012-05-30 Thread jdow
On 2012/05/30 04:58, sergiocmailbox-fedoraus...@yahoo.com.br wrote: Hi, we have the sendmail.service enabled by default even in the minimal installation. I only use Thunderbird as my email client. May I uninstall sendmail? Is it needed for something I'm not aware of? Regards. Logwatch and oth

Re: Can I remove sendmail?

2012-05-30 Thread Bryn M. Reeves
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/30/2012 03:23 PM, sergiocmailbox-fedoraus...@yahoo.com.br wrote: > ..and I also figured it's required for some basic packages, so I'll > just disable its service. Thanks. I think things should depend on "MTA" or "smtpdaemon" rather than sendmail

Re: Can I remove sendmail?

2012-05-30 Thread sergiocmailbox-fedorausers
..and I also figured it's required for some basic packages, so I'll just disable its service. Thanks. --- Em qua, 30/5/12, fedora escreveu: > De: fedora > Assunto: Re: Can I remove sendmail? > Para: users@lists.fedoraproject.org > Data: Quarta-feira, 30 de Maio de 2012, 10:28 > sendmail is a m

Re: question about compiler-flages

2012-05-30 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Reindl Harald wrote: > does anybody know which of this two versions > is more suitable - would it be enough or better > to only pass "-msse4.1"? If you want all SSE versions up to and including 4.1 available, then all you need is "-msse4.1". -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To

Re: Solution to RAID /boot issue in fc17?

2012-05-30 Thread Alan Cox
> I still don't understand why LVM is the default layout method when > there is no redundancy. I also choose to create my own filesystem > layout, as tedious as it has become. In order to force you to test enterprise features > Is the 2MB BIOS BOOT partition necessary? If you are usign normal

Re: Solution to RAID /boot issue in fc17?

2012-05-30 Thread Alan Cox
On Tue, 29 May 2012 23:02:14 -0400 Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Alex writes: > > > Hi, > > > > I believe the ability to have /boot on RAID was removed in fc15 so in > > fc16, > > That's news to me. Both F15 and F16 were perfectly happy with /boot on > RAID-1, for me. I must admit that they were q

Re: F17 preupgrade with efi?

2012-05-30 Thread Christian Menzel
On Wednesday, May 30, 2012, Alan Cox wrote: > > So my question is: Is preupgrade supported on efi systems or should I > just > > use yum to upgrade to F17? > > You don't have that option either really because of the great > rearrangement of /bin and /usr/bin etc. > > Alan > Thank you, I will star

Re: Can I remove sendmail?

2012-05-30 Thread fedora
sendmail is a mail server, not a mail client. suomi On 2012-05-30 13:58, sergiocmailbox-fedoraus...@yahoo.com.br wrote: Hi, we have the sendmail.service enabled by default even in the minimal installation. I only use Thunderbird as my email client. May I uninstall sendmail? Is it needed for so

Re: F17 preupgrade with efi?

2012-05-30 Thread Alan Cox
> So my question is: Is preupgrade supported on efi systems or should I just > use yum to upgrade to F17? You don't have that option either really because of the great rearrangement of /bin and /usr/bin etc. Alan -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscr

question about compiler-flages

2012-05-30 Thread Reindl Harald
hi does anybody know which of this two versions is more suitable - would it be enough or better to only pass "-msse4.1"? -mmmx -msse2 -msse3 -msse4.1 -msse4.1 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change sub

Jumbled Icon, Fedora 17 & GNOME

2012-05-30 Thread Junayeed Ahnaf Nirjhor
Hello, If I install any theme using gnome tweak tool, my icons are getting jumbleb (The application tab) . It wasn't the issue on Fedora 16. AMD graphics card with Open source driver , 64 bit Fedora 17. Any help? -- Junayeed Ahnaf Nirjhor Developer, Hulu & Diaspora

F17 upgrade dirty disc dialog --Update

2012-05-30 Thread Mark Haney
I've hit a snag on upgrading my netbook to F17. Every time I go into the upgrade section I get a dialog saying my root volume is dirty and to reboot into linux, have it clean the FS and restart the upgrade. Ideas? --Update Well, I've pulled every trick I can think of and some off the list an

Re: F17 upgrade dirty disc dialog

2012-05-30 Thread Mark Haney
On 05/29/2012 02:16 PM, Mark C. Allman wrote: Create a file in the root directory ("/") named "forcefsck". This will force fsck to run and clean the file systems when you reboot. The file contains one line and lists the options that you want to pass to fsck. I use "-p" since my filesystem is

Re: F17 upgrade dirty disc dialog

2012-05-30 Thread Mark Haney
On 05/29/2012 03:07 PM, suvayu ali wrote: On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 7:58 PM, Mark Haney wrote: I've hit a snag on upgrading my netbook to F17. Every time I go into the upgrade section I get a dialog saying my root volume is dirty and to reboot into linux, have it clean the FS and restart the upg

Re: Making sound from Perl - How?

2012-05-30 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 30 May 2012 12:45:48 +0100, agraham wrote: > WARNING - LONG REPLY AHEAD Great! That explained a lot. > My application is SDL based and it needs to run on Fedora 14 >, but > perl-SDL does not exist on F14 and the version that exists on FC17 is > v2.2-6 which is too old for me I need 2.5

Can I remove sendmail?

2012-05-30 Thread sergiocmailbox-fedorausers
Hi, we have the sendmail.service enabled by default even in the minimal installation. I only use Thunderbird as my email client. May I uninstall sendmail? Is it needed for something I'm not aware of? Regards. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscripti

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