How to run KNetworkManager

2012-06-05 Thread JD
Could someone please tell me how to use KNetworkManager? I have kde-plasma-networkmanagement-0.9.0.2-1.fc16.i686 installed, but I cannot find the icon nor the binary for KNetworkManager. Could someone please clue me in? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change s

Re: Manually installing Firefox 13

2012-06-05 Thread Ed Greshko
On 06/05/2012 02:53 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: > Mozilla releases Firefox 13 ahead of schedule > http://tech2.in.com/news/software/mozilla-releases-firefox-13-ahead-of-schedule/313252 Yet, if you go to their main download page for Linux your choice is FF 12. -- Never be afraid to laugh at yourse

Re: Red Hat Will Pay Microsoft To Get Past UEFI Restrictions

2012-06-05 Thread Thibault Nélis
On 06/05/2012 08:02 AM, JD wrote: So, will there be a document that will accompany the ISO, advising the user what key to insert into the firmware so that the firmware will be able to authenticate the boot loader? I don't know if this has been discussed somewhere at Fedora, but I would assume

Re: Manually installing Firefox 13

2012-06-05 Thread Edward M
On 06/05/2012 12:38 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 06/05/2012 02:53 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: Mozilla releases Firefox 13 ahead of schedule http://tech2.in.com/news/software/mozilla-releases-firefox-13-ahead-of-schedule/313252 Yet, if you go to their main download page for Linux your choice is FF 12

Re: How to run KNetworkManager

2012-06-05 Thread Ed Greshko
On 06/05/2012 03:33 PM, JD wrote: > Could someone please tell me how to use KNetworkManager? > I have kde-plasma-networkmanagement-0.9.0.2-1.fc16.i686 > installed, but I cannot find the icon nor the binary for > KNetworkManager. > Could someone please clue me in? You're running KDE under F16, yes?

Re: Manually installing Firefox 13

2012-06-05 Thread Danishka Navin
Firefox 12 http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/all.html On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 1:26 PM, Edward M wrote: > On 06/05/2012 12:38 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > >> On 06/05/2012 02:53 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: >> >>> Mozilla releases Firefox 13 ahead of schedule >>> http://tech2.in.com/news/**software/moz

Re: Manually installing Firefox 13

2012-06-05 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 05.06.2012 08:26, schrieb Fernando Cassia: > What's the right procedure to manually install Firefox 13 on top of F17?. > > It's been so long that I had forgotten it's simple a tar file. Where > do I unpack it?. > > Apparently in F17 firefox is spread between /usr/bin/firefox and > /usr/lib/f

Re: Manually installing Firefox 13

2012-06-05 Thread Edward M
On 06/05/2012 01:07 AM, Danishka Navin wrote: Firefox 12 http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/all.html On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 1:26 PM, Edward M > wrote: On 06/05/2012 12:38 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 06/05/2012 02:53 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote:

Re: Headless F16->F17

2012-06-05 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 05.06.2012 00:46, schrieb Trever L. Adams: > On 06/04/2012 02:11 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> yes and no the instructions from wiki are working fine if you make a own >> grub-entry and do not forget remove it >> after conversion BUT you need someone for a pwoer-cycle after the upgrade >> beca

Re: Manually installing Firefox 13

2012-06-05 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 05.06.2012 10:22, schrieb Edward M: > On 06/05/2012 01:07 AM, Danishka Navin wrote: >> Firefox 12 http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/all.html >> >> On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 1:26 PM, Edward M > > wrote: >> >> On 06/05/2012 12:38 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> >

Local filesystem with "Stale NFS handle" error - blocks F17 upgrade

2012-06-05 Thread Arif Saleem
Hi, I have an odd situation, which is blocking my F16->F17 upgrade. My system (Dell XPS 15z laptop) was installed fresh as F16 in January. I created / as btrfs, /boot as etx4 and /home as encrypted btrfs. The machine has been running fine since then. I tried to upgrade to F17 using the DVD but the

Re: Manually installing Firefox 13

2012-06-05 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 4:38 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > Yet, if you go to their main download page for Linux your choice is FF 12. I got mine from http://mirrors.ucr.ac.cr/mozilla/firefox/releases/13.0/linux-i686/en-US/firefox-13.0.tar.bz2 after a redirect from http://download.mozilla.org/?product=fi

Re: Manually installing Firefox 13

2012-06-05 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 5:17 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > why in the world do you simply not wait some days > until you get a regular update from yum? > > i will never understand people acting this way Maybe I am so stupid as to want to install it on Linux and include Linux screenshots instead of Wi

Re: Manually installing Firefox 13

2012-06-05 Thread Edward M
On 06/05/2012 01:24 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: would it be possible to CLEANUP posts a LITTLE bit * remove tons of ** wrote with no content referred * remove useless blank lines * remove useless signatures * remove existing list-footers i did not for this post to show how i receive them and i am

Re: Manually installing Firefox 13

2012-06-05 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 5:17 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > why in the world do you simply not wait some days > until you get a regular update from yum? > > i will never understand people acting this way Perhaps if you go back in the thread you will see that I also said "Can we expect to have RPMs for

kde lcd weather station not working in Holland

2012-06-05 Thread Chris Rouch
I used to use the kde plasma lcd weather station widget to show current weather at Schiphol (amsterdam airport), but although search still returns results (from wettercom and bbcukmet), selecting any of these displays no data. I get similar results with other dutch cities, and also for the few oth

Re: kde lcd weather station not working in Holland

2012-06-05 Thread Jan Litwiński
Dnia wtorek, 5 czerwca 2012 11:55:31 Chris Rouch pisze: > I used to use the kde plasma lcd weather station widget to show > current weather at Schiphol (amsterdam airport), but although search > still returns results (from wettercom and bbcukmet), selecting any of > these displays no data. I get

Re: Red Hat Will Pay Microsoft To Get Past UEFI Restrictions

2012-06-05 Thread Alan Cox
> It is logically impossible to have a so-called "secure-boot" for both a free > OS and a non-free OS on the same platform. Actually it's perfectly possible with some careful planning. If you are using TXT or similar services you measure the entire boot path and that then defines your access to

Re: kde lcd weather station not working in Holland

2012-06-05 Thread Ed Greshko
On 06/05/2012 05:55 PM, Chris Rouch wrote: > I used to use the kde plasma lcd weather station widget to show > current weather at Schiphol (amsterdam airport), but although search > still returns results (from wettercom and bbcukmet), selecting any of > these displays no data. I get similar result

What's wrong with this /etc/fstab ?

2012-06-05 Thread Jonathan Ryshpan
The following /etc/fstab will cause Fedora-17 to crash into maintenance mode during the boot process: # # /etc/fstab # Created by anaconda on Thu May 31 03:46:19 2012 # # Accessible filesystems, by reference, are maintained under '/dev/disk' # See man pages fstab(5), findfs(8), mount(8) and/or blk

Re: kde lcd weather station not working in Holland

2012-06-05 Thread Jan Litwiński
Dnia wtorek, 5 czerwca 2012 18:19:17 Ed Greshko pisze: > On 06/05/2012 05:55 PM, Chris Rouch wrote: > > I used to use the kde plasma lcd weather station widget to show > > current weather at Schiphol (amsterdam airport), but although search > > still returns results (from wettercom and bbcukmet),

Re: What's wrong with this /etc/fstab ?

2012-06-05 Thread Roberto Ragusa
On 06/05/2012 12:22 PM, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > The following /etc/fstab will cause Fedora-17 to crash into maintenance > mode during the boot process: > > # > # /etc/fstab > # Created by anaconda on Thu May 31 03:46:19 2012 > # > # Accessible filesystems, by reference, are maintained under '/de

Re: Red Hat Will Pay Microsoft To Get Past UEFI Restrictions

2012-06-05 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Thibault Nélis writes: Supposing your OEM isn't abusing his powers and respects Microsoft's requirements if it's an x86 platform, you should be able to add your own key in the firmware, which will be used to verify the boot loader. And I would also like a pony, too. Sheep; slaughter; etc…

Re: Red Hat Will Pay Microsoft To Get Past UEFI Restrictions

2012-06-05 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Thibault Nélis writes: The main problem is that the UEFI spec doesn't describe a standard UI to do this AFAIK, so every hardware vendor might implement it in a different way. Don't worry about. Microsoft will make sure that the OEM knows exactly how to implement the ability to install keys

Re: Red Hat Will Pay Microsoft To Get Past UEFI Restrictions

2012-06-05 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Alan Cox writes: > It is logically impossible to have a so-called "secure-boot" for both a free > OS and a non-free OS on the same platform. Actually it's perfectly possible with some careful planning. If you are using TXT or similar services you measure the entire boot path and that then de

Re: Manually installing Firefox 13

2012-06-05 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 05.06.2012 10:53, schrieb Fernando Cassia: > On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 5:17 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> why in the world do you simply not wait some days >> until you get a regular update from yum? >> >> i will never understand people acting this way > > Perhaps if you go back in the thread you

Re: Red Hat Will Pay Microsoft To Get Past UEFI Restrictions

2012-06-05 Thread Alan Cox
On Tue, 05 Jun 2012 06:47:24 -0400 Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Thibault Nélis writes: > > > The main problem is that the UEFI spec doesn't describe a standard UI to do > > > > this AFAIK, so every hardware vendor might implement it in a different way. > > Don't worry about. Microsoft will make

Re: Red Hat Will Pay Microsoft To Get Past UEFI Restrictions

2012-06-05 Thread Thibault Nélis
On 06/05/2012 12:46 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Thibault Nélis writes: Supposing your OEM isn't abusing his powers and respects Microsoft's requirements if it's an x86 platform, you should be able to add your own key in the firmware, which will be used to verify the boot loader. And I would al

Re: Red Hat Will Pay Microsoft To Get Past UEFI Restrictions

2012-06-05 Thread Thibault Nélis
On 06/05/2012 01:29 PM, Alan Cox wrote: On Tue, 05 Jun 2012 06:47:24 -0400 Sam Varshavchik wrote: Don't worry about. Microsoft will make sure that the OEM knows exactly how to implement the ability to install keys for other operating systems. They seem quite averse to that actually. UEFI its

Re: How to run KNetworkManager

2012-06-05 Thread Timothy Murphy
Ed Greshko wrote: >> Could someone please tell me how to use KNetworkManager? >> I have kde-plasma-networkmanagement-0.9.0.2-1.fc16.i686 >> installed, but I cannot find the icon nor the binary for >> KNetworkManager. >> Could someone please clue me in? > > You're running KDE under F16, yes? > >

Re: Manually installing Firefox 13

2012-06-05 Thread Frank Murphy
On 05/06/12 07:26, Fernando Cassia wrote: What's the right procedure to manually install Firefox 13 on top of F17?. It's been so long that I had forgotten it's simple a tar file. Where do I unpack it?. Apparently in F17 firefox is spread between /usr/bin/firefox and /usr/lib/firefox instead of

Re: What's wrong with this /etc/fstab ?

2012-06-05 Thread Jonathan Ryshpan
On Tue, 2012-06-05 at 12:27 +0200, Roberto Ragusa wrote: > On 06/05/2012 12:22 PM, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > > The following /etc/fstab will cause Fedora-17 to crash into maintenance > > mode during the boot process: > > > > # > > # /etc/fstab > > # Created by anaconda on Thu May 31 03:46:19 2012

Re: kde lcd weather station not working in Holland

2012-06-05 Thread Timothy Murphy
Jan Litwiński wrote: >> > I'm running kdeplasma-addons-4.8.3-1 on fedora 16. Is there a > newer >> > version where this works, or is there some other way of making it >> > work? >> >> There are 2 widgets available by default. The one simply labeled > "Weather >> Forecast" seems to work fine. >

Re: kde lcd weather station not working in Holland

2012-06-05 Thread Ed Greshko
On 06/05/2012 07:52 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > Ignorance on my part, I'm sure, but how exactly does one see > any of these widgets? > I have kdeplasma-addons installed, > and just yum-installed kde-plasma-yawp, > but don't see any weather forecast on my screen. > Nothing has been added to my syste

Re: Manually installing Firefox 13

2012-06-05 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 8:00 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > Firefox and Thunderbird are updated to the latest releases > since FF4 / F15 everytime because upstream has a new > versioning scheme Just unpacked it to /opt/firefox and updated the .desktop launcher in /usr/share/applications Works like a c

Re: Manually installing Firefox 13

2012-06-05 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 8:00 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > you are really long enough on this list to recognize > taht you always got the latest version Not really. I used to stick with F9 and F10 on this machine for about two years, long past their expiry date, so to speak... I only got back up to

Re: How to run KNetworkManager

2012-06-05 Thread Ed Greshko
On 06/05/2012 07:37 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > This raises an issue I've wondered about for some time, namely > What info does NM provide, and what is provided by KNM? > What if you don't run KNM - > could one still access Network Management Settings, and if so how? > > The old system-config-netwo

Re: Red Hat Will Pay Microsoft To Get Past UEFI Restrictions

2012-06-05 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Thibault Nélis writes: In any case, I'd be happy to talk about all this in a year or two, when we'll have more information than speculations. (Don't worry I'm not offended or anything, I'm just saying we don't know jack yet.) Not really. We do know a lot, actually. There are plenty of his

Re: Red Hat Will Pay Microsoft To Get Past UEFI Restrictions

2012-06-05 Thread Alan Cox
On Tue, 05 Jun 2012 13:33:54 +0200 Thibault Nélis wrote: > On 06/05/2012 01:29 PM, Alan Cox wrote: > > On Tue, 05 Jun 2012 06:47:24 -0400 > > Sam Varshavchik wrote: > >> Don't worry about. Microsoft will make sure that the OEM knows exactly how > >> to implement the ability to install keys for o

Re: Fedora 17 not booting after installing akmod nvidia driver

2012-06-05 Thread Richard Shaw
On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 1:40 AM, Swapnil Bhartiya wrote: > On 06/05/2012 07:46 AM, Gilboa Davara wrote: >> $ /sbin/lsmod | grep nouveau > > nouveau 785681 1 > nxm_wmi  12823 1 nouveau > wmi      18697 2 mxm_wmi, nouveau > video    18980 1 nouveau > drm_kms_helper 40409 1 nouveau > ttm 79709 1 nouve

Re: Fedora 17 not booting after installing akmod nvidia driver

2012-06-05 Thread Swapnil Bhartiya
On 06/05/2012 02:52 PM, Richard Shaw wrote: On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 1:40 AM, Swapnil Bhartiya wrote: On 06/05/2012 07:46 AM, Gilboa Davara wrote: $ /sbin/lsmod | grep nouveau nouveau 785681 1 nxm_wmi 12823 1 nouveau wmi 18697 2 mxm_wmi, nouveau video18980 1 nouveau drm_kms_helper 4

Re: What's wrong with this /etc/fstab ?

2012-06-05 Thread Olav Vitters
On Tue, Jun 05, 2012 at 04:44:22AM -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > Very strange things happen. With the line commented out the device can > be mounted without problems. But with the line uncommented this happens > (note that I'm running as root): > # mount /mnt/c > mount: only ro

iproute regression in F16

2012-06-05 Thread Luc MAIGNAN
Hi, In a F15 box I've setup routing tables (/etc/iproute2/rt_tables) and a route to a specific host via a gateway. In F15 all works fine. Since I've upgraded in F16, it works only for a while. After, it does'nt work anymore (my host isn't reacheable). To make it work again, I have to delete

F17 upgrade frustration

2012-06-05 Thread Mark Haney
I've about had it with this bloody upgrade nonsense. Nothing I do gets me past the 'dirty filesystems' dialog when trying to upgrade. I filed a bug report, but so far no answer. Has anyone else found a way to make this go away? Short of a wipe/install that is. -- Mark Haney Software Devel

Re: How to run KNetworkManager

2012-06-05 Thread Timothy Murphy
Ed Greshko wrote: >> This raises an issue I've wondered about for some time, namely >> What info does NM provide, and what is provided by KNM? .. >> In my experience anything to do with networking on Fedora/KDE >> is utterly confusing and confused, >> compared eg with the simplicity of networking

Re: F17 upgrade frustration

2012-06-05 Thread Jeff Gipson
On Tue, Jun 05, 2012 at 09:49:53AM -0400, Mark Haney wrote: I've about had it with this bloody upgrade nonsense. Nothing I do gets me past the 'dirty filesystems' dialog when trying to upgrade. I filed a bug report, but so far no answer. Has anyone else found a way to make this go away? Shor

Re: kde lcd weather station not working in Holland

2012-06-05 Thread Timothy Murphy
Ed Greshko wrote: > On 06/05/2012 07:52 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: >> Ignorance on my part, I'm sure, but how exactly does one see >> any of these widgets? >> I have kdeplasma-addons installed, >> and just yum-installed kde-plasma-yawp, >> but don't see any weather forecast on my screen. >> Nothing

Re: How to run KNetworkManager

2012-06-05 Thread Ed Greshko
On 06/05/2012 09:58 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > Yes, that was really my point. I wasn't sure if this route (through System > Settings) was provided by NM or KNM. As far as I can see, one gets exactly > the same > information this way as if one right-clicks on what I think of as the NM icon > in >

Re: F17 upgrade frustration

2012-06-05 Thread Mike Wohlgemuth
On 06/05/2012 09:49 AM, Mark Haney wrote: I've about had it with this bloody upgrade nonsense. Nothing I do gets me past the 'dirty filesystems' dialog when trying to upgrade. I filed a bug report, but so far no answer. Has anyone else found a way to make this go away? Short of a wipe/insta

Re: How to run KNetworkManager

2012-06-05 Thread Timothy Murphy
Ed Greshko wrote: >> As far as I can see, the old network service >> has got mixed up with NM in some way, >> and is no longer a genuine alternative? > But, you certainly don't have to use NetworkManager if you don't want > toat least > in F16 (I've not played with F17). There isn't an opti

Re: How to run KNetworkManager

2012-06-05 Thread JD
On 06/05/2012 12:57 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 06/05/2012 03:33 PM, JD wrote: Could someone please tell me how to use KNetworkManager? I have kde-plasma-networkmanagement-0.9.0.2-1.fc16.i686 installed, but I cannot find the icon nor the binary for KNetworkManager. Could someone please clue me in?

Re: What's wrong with this /etc/fstab ?

2012-06-05 Thread JD
On 06/05/2012 03:22 AM, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: The following /etc/fstab will cause Fedora-17 to crash into maintenance mode during the boot process: # # /etc/fstab # Created by anaconda on Thu May 31 03:46:19 2012 # # Accessible filesystems, by reference, are maintained under '/dev/disk' # See

Re: Red Hat Will Pay Microsoft To Get Past UEFI Restrictions

2012-06-05 Thread JD
On 06/05/2012 03:47 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Don't worry about. Microsoft will make sure that the OEM knows exactly how to implement the ability to install keys for other operating systems. I like this sense of humor :) :) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscrib

Re: How to run KNetworkManager

2012-06-05 Thread JD
On 06/05/2012 04:37 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: Ed Greshko wrote: Could someone please tell me how to use KNetworkManager? I have kde-plasma-networkmanagement-0.9.0.2-1.fc16.i686 installed, but I cannot find the icon nor the binary for KNetworkManager. Could someone please clue me in? You're run

Re: F17 upgrade frustration

2012-06-05 Thread Mark Haney
On 06/05/2012 10:09 AM, Jeff Gipson wrote: I've never had this problem, so forgive me if I'm stating the obvious, but have you tried booting the LiveCD, unmounting all HDD mounts, and running fsck on each? Yes. Multiple times. I've run vgck, pvck, fsck and any other 'ck' I could come up

Re: How to apply updates to a system with no Internet access?

2012-06-05 Thread James Wilkinson
Fulko Hew wrote: > Just because there is no internet access, doesn't mean there isn't > network access, and sometimes you need need to update to > newer stuff when you change/update your own applications. True, but you should actually think and make a reasoned decision. Updates can cause problems

Re: Manually installing Firefox 13

2012-06-05 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 05.06.2012 14:05, schrieb Fernando Cassia: > On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 8:00 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> you are really long enough on this list to recognize >> that you always got the latest version > > Not really. I used to stick with F9 and F10 on this machine for about > two years, long past

F17 virt-install with kickstart from local ftp

2012-06-05 Thread Reiner Rottmann
Hi, I recently upgraded from F16 to F17 and during post install I usually setup a virtual test box to play around with. The following command worked with F16: #/usr/bin/virt-install --vnc --noautoconsole --name=vserver.example.com --ram=768 --arch=i386 --vcpus=1 --os-type=linux --os-variant=rhel

A file named "["?

2012-06-05 Thread Beartooth
On one of my PCs, /bin contains an executable file whose name is the left square bracket, and nothing else. Opening it with gedit gets something that's part text (generally if not all commented out) and part stuff I can't read. Is there a test, usable by one who knows

Re: A file named "["?

2012-06-05 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Tue, 5 Jun 2012, Beartooth wrote: > > On one of my PCs, /bin contains an executable file whose name is > the left square bracket, and nothing else. > > Opening it with gedit gets something that's part text (generally > if not all commented out) and part stuff I can't read. > >

Re: F17 upgrade frustration

2012-06-05 Thread Rick Stevens
On 06/05/2012 09:56 AM, Mark Haney wrote: On 06/05/2012 10:09 AM, Jeff Gipson wrote: I've never had this problem, so forgive me if I'm stating the obvious, but have you tried booting the LiveCD, unmounting all HDD mounts, and running fsck on each? Yes. Multiple times. I've run vgck, pvck

Re: A file named "["?

2012-06-05 Thread jdow
On 2012/06/05 11:19, Robert P. J. Day wrote: On Tue, 5 Jun 2012, Beartooth wrote: On one of my PCs, /bin contains an executable file whose name is the left square bracket, and nothing else. Opening it with gedit gets something that's part text (generally if not all commented o

Re: A file named "["?

2012-06-05 Thread Rick Stevens
On 06/05/2012 11:19 AM, Robert P. J. Day wrote: On Tue, 5 Jun 2012, Beartooth wrote: On one of my PCs, /bin contains an executable file whose name is the left square bracket, and nothing else. Opening it with gedit gets something that's part text (generally if not all commente

Re: How to run KNetworkManager

2012-06-05 Thread Rex Dieter
JD wrote: > On 06/05/2012 12:57 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 06/05/2012 03:33 PM, JD wrote: >>> Could someone please tell me how to use KNetworkManager? >>> I have kde-plasma-networkmanagement-0.9.0.2-1.fc16.i686 >>> installed, but I cannot find the icon nor the binary for >>> KNetworkManager. >>>

Re: A file named "["?

2012-06-05 Thread Chris Tyler
On Tue, 2012-06-05 at 18:16 +, Beartooth wrote: > On one of my PCs, /bin contains an executable file whose name is > the left square bracket, and nothing else. > > Opening it with gedit gets something that's part text (generally > if not all commented out) and part stuff I can't

Re: What's wrong with this /etc/fstab ?

2012-06-05 Thread Jonathan Ryshpan
On Tue, 2012-06-05 at 15:47 +0200, Olav Vitters wrote: > On Tue, Jun 05, 2012 at 04:44:22AM -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > > Very strange things happen. With the line commented out the device can > > be mounted without problems. But with the line uncommented this happens > > (note that I'm runn

Re: A file named "["?

2012-06-05 Thread Alex
Hi, >>>        On one of my PCs, /bin contains an executable file whose name is >>> the left square bracket, and nothing else. >>> >>>        Opening it with gedit gets something that's part text (generally >>> if not all commented out) and part stuff I can't read. >>> >>>        Is there a test,

Fedora 17 on vmware esxi 5.0

2012-06-05 Thread Manuel Gonzalez Montoya
Hi, I just did a fresh install of F17 on a ESXi 5.0 VM, and it crash on first boot with the message "Oh no! Something have gone wrong. A problem ocurred and the system can't recover. Please contact the system administrator" along with a sad computer face. I tried the 32 and the 64 bit version a

Re: A file named "["?

2012-06-05 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 14:40:23 -0400, Alex wrote: > It's used in shell scripts, such as an "if" statement, such as "if [ > $? -eq 0 ]". Bash actually runs that command. Not Bash. $ type [ [ is a shell builtin Also see "man [". -- Fedora release 17 (Beefy Miracle) - Linux 3.3.7-1.fc17.x86_64 load

Re: Fedora 17 on vmware esxi 5.0

2012-06-05 Thread Joe Zeff
On 06/05/2012 11:48 AM, Manuel Gonzalez Montoya wrote: Any ideas? Thanks in advance Yes: shoot the ID10T who decided that this was a useful error message. If nothing else, it should give you some diagnostics to help you (or whoever your system administrator is) figure out what happened. AIU

Re: Red Hat Will Pay Microsoft To Get Past UEFI Restrictions

2012-06-05 Thread Antonio Olivares
> Supposing your OEM isn't abusing his powers and respects > Microsoft's requirements if it's an x86 platform, you should > be able to add your own key in the firmware, which will be > used to verify the boot loader.  If this thing is well > designed (I assume it is), you won't have to flip a singl

Re: A file named "["?

2012-06-05 Thread Antonio Olivares
> > It's used in shell scripts, such as an "if" statement, > such as "if [ > > $? -eq 0 ]". Bash actually runs that command. > > Not Bash. > > $ type [ > [ is a shell builtin > > Also see "man [". > > -- I had seen this and thought I created it with a redirection to it like file > [ by mist

Re: Red Hat Will Pay Microsoft To Get Past UEFI Restrictions

2012-06-05 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 12:07:00 -0700 (PDT) Antonio Olivares wrote: > > Supposing your OEM isn't abusing his powers and respects > > Microsoft's requirements if it's an x86 platform, you should > > be able to add your own key in the firmware, which will be > > used to verify the boot loader.  If this

Re: A file named "["?

2012-06-05 Thread jdow
On 2012/06/05 11:55, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 14:40:23 -0400, Alex wrote: It's used in shell scripts, such as an "if" statement, such as "if [ $? -eq 0 ]". Bash actually runs that command. Not Bash. $ type [ [ is a shell builtin Also see "man [". $ type /usr/bin/[ /usr/

When I try to update Fedore I get the following--any ideas

2012-06-05 Thread SES
When I try to update Fedore I get the following--any ideas what this is??? Thanks all! Fedora is terrific! SES Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/share/PackageKit/helpers/yum/yumBackend.py", line 2333, in _update_packages txmbr = self.yumbase.update(po=pkg) File "/usr/lib/pyth

Re: Fedora 17 on vmware esxi 5.0

2012-06-05 Thread Brian Millett
On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 13:48:26 -0500 Manuel Gonzalez Montoya wrote: > Hi, > > I just did a fresh install of F17 on a ESXi 5.0 VM, and it crash on > first boot with the message > > "Oh no! Something have gone wrong. > A problem ocurred and the system can't recover. Please contact the > system admin

Re: A file named "["?

2012-06-05 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 05 Jun 2012 12:35:34 -0700, jdow wrote: > On 2012/06/05 11:55, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 14:40:23 -0400, Alex wrote: > > > >> It's used in shell scripts, such as an "if" statement, such as "if [ > >> $? -eq 0 ]". Bash actually runs that command. > > > > Not Bash. > > >

Printing in Landscape format in KDE.

2012-06-05 Thread Jim
F15, F17 . Can't print in Landscape Format when printing a calendar in KOrganizer . I Can print Landscape format in Libre-Office, and other Apps. What could be the problem ? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedor

Re: A file named "["?

2012-06-05 Thread Jeff Gipson
On Tue, Jun 05, 2012 at 10:17:47PM +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Tue, 05 Jun 2012 12:35:34 -0700, jdow wrote: On 2012/06/05 11:55, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 14:40:23 -0400, Alex wrote: > >> It's used in shell scripts, such as an "if" statement, such as "if [ >> $? -eq 0 ]

Re: A file named "["?

2012-06-05 Thread jdow
On 2012/06/05 13:17, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Tue, 05 Jun 2012 12:35:34 -0700, jdow wrote: On 2012/06/05 11:55, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 14:40:23 -0400, Alex wrote: It's used in shell scripts, such as an "if" statement, such as "if [ $? -eq 0 ]". Bash actually runs that c

Re: Red Hat Will Pay Microsoft To Get Past UEFI Restrictions

2012-06-05 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Tue, 2012-06-05 at 13:26 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > > 4) an other page that explains some of this, I don't know if has > been > > mentioned here is > > > > http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/12368.html > > > > It has some explanations, but the topic is still difficult to > > understand and I wou

Re: Fedora 17 on vmware esxi 5.0

2012-06-05 Thread M A Young
On Tue, 5 Jun 2012, Manuel Gonzalez Montoya wrote: Hi, I just did a fresh install of F17 on a ESXi 5.0 VM, and it crash on first boot with the message "Oh no! Something have gone wrong. A problem ocurred and the system can't recover. Please contact the system administrator" Try rpm -e fprint

/dev/ttyUSB0 spontaneously changes to /dev/ttyUSB1

2012-06-05 Thread Jonathan Ryshpan
This is a problem which is being kicked around on another mailing list, devoted to the wview weather server, without very good results, so I have taken the liberty of putting it to a wider audience: I have a system with a device (a Davis VantagePro2 weather console) attached to a USB port. When t

Re: When I try to update Fedore I get the following--any ideas

2012-06-05 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2012-06-05 at 16:00 -0400, SES wrote: > When I try to update Fedore I get the following--any ideas what this > is??? Upgrading from what version (F14, F15, F16, ...)? Upgrading with what method (DVD, preupgrade, yum)? poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscri

Re: Red Hat Will Pay Microsoft To Get Past UEFI Restrictions

2012-06-05 Thread jdow
On 2012/06/05 13:48, Aaron Konstam wrote: On Tue, 2012-06-05 at 13:26 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: 4) an other page that explains some of this, I don't know if has been mentioned here is http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/12368.html It has some explanations, but the topic is still difficult to under

Re: /dev/ttyUSB0 spontaneously changes to /dev/ttyUSB1

2012-06-05 Thread Alan Cox
> as /dev/ttyUSB0. A wview server attaches to /dev/ttyUSB0 and runs fine > till suddenly the device disappears from /dev/ttyUSB0 and appears > as /dev/ttyUSB1, at which time the server fails. You need to fix the server. > I suspect (though without much evidence) that the reason for the device

Re: Red Hat Will Pay Microsoft To Get Past UEFI Restrictions

2012-06-05 Thread Sam Varshavchik
JD writes: On 06/05/2012 03:47 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Don't worry about. Microsoft will make sure that the OEM knows exactly how to implement the ability to install keys for other operating systems. I like this sense of humor :) :) You thought I was joking? pgpRpYF2kJDV4.pgp D

Re: /dev/ttyUSB0 spontaneously changes to /dev/ttyUSB1

2012-06-05 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Jonathan Ryshpan writes: I have tried the obvious, to open what ought to be the permanent location of the device, namely: /dev/serial/by-id/usb- Silicon_Labs_CP2102_USB_to_UART_Bridge_Controller_0001-if00-port0 But the software stops working when the change takes place, evidently becau

Re: When I try to update Fedore I get the following--any ideas

2012-06-05 Thread Alan Cox
> Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/share/PackageKit/helpers/yum/yumBackend.py", line 2333, in > _update_packages > txmbr = self.yumbase.update(po=pkg) > File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/yum/__init__.py", line 4571, in > update > updated_pkg = self.getInstalledPacka

Re: Red Hat Will Pay Microsoft To Get Past UEFI Restrictions

2012-06-05 Thread Roger
On 06/06/12 09:22, Sam Varshavchik wrote: JD writes: On 06/05/2012 03:47 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Don't worry about. Microsoft will make sure that the OEM knows exactly how to implement the ability to install keys for other operating systems. I like this sense of humor :) :) You th

Scolling bar missing single step arrow

2012-06-05 Thread Vinny Onelli
Hello, I install F17, the single step arrow are no longer there any body have a clue on how to get them back? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject

Re: What's wrong with this /etc/fstab ?

2012-06-05 Thread Thibault Nélis
Maybe try ntfs-3g? I'm not really up-to-date on what's the default NTFS driver now, but I know this used to be some kind of mess. # mount -t ntfs-3g Options[0] may be different. [0] http://www.tuxera.com/community/ntfs-3g-manual/ -- t -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To u

Re: Red Hat Will Pay Microsoft To Get Past UEFI Restrictions

2012-06-05 Thread JD
On 06/05/2012 04:22 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: JD writes: On 06/05/2012 03:47 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Don't worry about. Microsoft will make sure that the OEM knows exactly how to implement the ability to install keys for other operating systems. I like this sense of humor :) :) Y

Re: Fedora 17 on vmware esxi 5.0

2012-06-05 Thread Manuel Gonzalez Montoya
On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 3:59 PM, M A Young wrote: > On Tue, 5 Jun 2012, Manuel Gonzalez Montoya wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I just did a fresh install of F17 on a ESXi 5.0 VM, and it crash on >> first boot with the message >> >> "Oh no! Something have gone wrong. >> A problem ocurred and the system can't

Re: /dev/ttyUSB0 spontaneously changes to /dev/ttyUSB1

2012-06-05 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 05 Jun 2012 19:22:50 -0400 Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Either the software needs to get fixed, so at least it can recover by > reopening the device Libudev might help with this, and what the heck, it would probably be nice if the software could handle a user yanking out the device as well

Re: Manually installing Firefox 13

2012-06-05 Thread ny6p01
On Tue, Jun 05, 2012 at 03:26:38AM -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote: > What's the right procedure to manually install Firefox 13 on top of F17?. > > It's been so long that I had forgotten it's simple a tar file. Where > do I unpack it?. > > Apparently in F17 firefox is spread between /usr/bin/firefox

Re: Manually installing Firefox 13

2012-06-05 Thread William Brown
On 6/06/12 03:07, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 05.06.2012 14:05, schrieb Fernando Cassia: >> On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 8:00 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: >>> you are really long enough on this list to recognize >>> that you always got the latest version >> >> Not really. I used to stick with F9 and F10

Re: /dev/ttyUSB0 spontaneously changes to /dev/ttyUSB1

2012-06-05 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Jonathan Ryshpan said: > I have a system with a device (a Davis VantagePro2 weather console) > attached to a USB port. When the system starts, the device is visible > as /dev/ttyUSB0. A wview server attaches to /dev/ttyUSB0 and runs fine > till suddenly the device disappears fr

Re: When I try to update Fedore I get the following--any ideas

2012-06-05 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2012-06-05 at 17:08 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Tue, 2012-06-05 at 16:00 -0400, SES wrote: > > When I try to update Fedore I get the following--any ideas what this > > is??? > > Upgrading from what version (F14, F15, F16, ...)? > > Upgrading with what method (DVD, preupgrade, y

jbd2 headache

2012-06-05 Thread Doug Wyatt
Running F17: I have a 2TB HD with 1463 pending bad blocks, 0 reallocated so far. All the data has been moved to another HD, the problem HD unmounted. Full SMART scan verified the pending bad blocks. However, I can't run badblocks on /dev/sdc1 because it is "apparently in use". lsof tells me the

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