Re: An apology is required from me

On 06/21/2012 09:36 PM, Roger wrote: As I understand it to date the devs say: "Go away", rightly so, and "Put up or shut up", again rightly so. I've never heard complaints about the KDE devs doing that, and I know that the Xfce devs don't. AFAIK, only the Gnome devs say that. -- users mailin

Re: I need help starting Gnome3 in runlevel 3

On 06/22/2012 11:41 AM, John Wendel wrote: > I like starting by box in runlevel 3 and using startx to get the desktop > running. I > created .xinitrc with the contents being "exec gnome-session"; the desktop > starts, > but gnome-shell loops consuming 145% of 2 cpus. Needless to say, the system

grub.cfg broken after yum update

After yum update (which produced no error messages) kernel-3.4.2-1 was installed. So, because of my prior problems with yum updating the kernel, I decided to look at grub.cfg. Again, dracut did not produce the initramfs for the new kernel. I had to manually run dracut -f /boot/initramfs-3.4.2-1.

Re: An apology is required from me

Then you should also apologize a second time for making unnecessary disparaging remarks about Gnome-3.4. Necessity and accuracy are largely orthogonal, and the fact that his disparagement was unnecessary didn't render it inaccurate. This Gnome bashing is becoming extremely tiresome. Your f

I need help starting Gnome3 in runlevel 3

I like starting by box in runlevel 3 and using startx to get the desktop running. I created .xinitrc with the contents being "exec gnome-session"; the desktop starts, but gnome-shell loops consuming 145% of 2 cpus. Needless to say, the system isn't very usable. If I run init 5, and go thru gdm

Re: An apology is required from me

On 06/20/2012 08:01 AM, Daniel wrote: On 06/20/2012 07:28 AM, users-requ...@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote: Then you should also apologize a second time for making unnecessary disparaging remarks about Gnome-3.4. Necessity and accuracy are largely orthogonal, and the fact that his disparageme

Re: Curious And Worried.....

On 06/21/2012 04:42 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 20:43:29 -0400, Eddie G.O'Connor Jr-I wrote: On 06/20/2012 08:35 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 06/20/2012 05:26 PM, Eddie G.O'Connor Jr-I wrote: I got when I was in Terminal checking things there and it says I have "mail" but it's i

Re: Weird freeze

On 06/21/2012 11:47 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 08:18:03 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: Currently, my desktop's running F16, fully updated. Just a few minutes ago, I was reading my morning comics on-line when my box froze. Nothing responded. Even the second hand on my desk

Re: bash command completion

On 06/22/2012 08:25 AM, Richard Vickery wrote: > Before F-17 I had become accustomed through experience to using , hit > twice, > to get a full list of the commands; perhaps you set it by default - at least > in the > release on the website. This time I upgraded through the link in the mail. > P

Re: Weird freeze

On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 4:53 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 06/21/2012 04:46 PM, Richard Vickery wrote: > >> You might not need to be as drastic. If you do top and view the one - or >> so many - program(s) that use an incredible amount of resources, then >> remove that/those program(s), you should be f

[no subject]

Hi gang: Before F-17 I had become accustomed through experience to using , hit twice, to get a full list of the commands; perhaps you set it by default - at least in the release on the website. This time I upgraded through the link in the mail. Perhaps I asked this before and forgot the method: wh

Re: Weird freeze

On 06/21/2012 04:46 PM, Richard Vickery wrote: You might not need to be as drastic. If you do top and view the one - or so many - program(s) that use an incredible amount of resources, then remove that/those program(s), you should be fine. So far, when I've had my desktop freeze I've never been

Re: Weird freeze

On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 06/21/2012 12:07 PM, Heinz Diehl wrote: > >> On 21.06.2012, Joe Zeff wrote: >> >> Currently, my desktop's running F16, fully updated. Just a few minutes >>> ago, >>> I was reading my morning comics on-line when my box froze. Nothing >>> res

Re: printer configuration on F17 ???

On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 5:44 PM, fred smith wrote: > Hi! > > I did a base (default) install from i686 DVD onto my netbook. it's > working fine, but... > > it doesn't have any tools to configure any printers. so using "add/remove > software" I searched for "printing" and it came up with an item "Pr

Re: Install package during installation of the system

On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 1:50 AM, Celso Viana wrote: > Hi all, > > I would like to install "Virtualbox" already during the installation > of "system". both added to the repository rpmfusion free and nonfree, > but the package virtualbox does not appear in any of the groups of > programs. > > Does

Re: Fedora 18 will install certain updates when rebooting - but only through Gnome3

oops, sorry. It is just that I do not follow the test list. I might have to start doing it. On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 06/21/2012 08:16 PM, Javier Perez wrote: > > I do not get. The Fedora Engineering Commitee seems to making bizarre > choices. > > > > For example, t

Re: Problems with update -- redhat-lsb conflicts

On 06/22/2012 03:21 AM, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > How can I tell apper not to check for updates to redhat-lsb? Currently > the icon indicating updates are ready is on all the time, making it > useless. the keyword to add in your repo is "exclude=" man yum.conf for more information (the same opt

Re: heisenpointer (Fedora 17 flickering mouse pointer)

On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 20:45:15 +0100 Ian Malone wrote: > Hi, has anyone else seen this? Since installing F17 (probably the > first clean fedora install I've done since single digits), I get a > flickering mouse pointer when the system is busy. This might be > related to the fact the mouse pointer h

Re: F15 -> F17 upgrade "A unpack error occurred when installing the numpy package"

On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 10:31 PM, JD wrote: > On 06/19/2012 11:03 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > >> On 06/20/2012 12:54 PM, David Lam wrote: >> >>> I'm trying to upgrade my F15 system using the F17 installation DVD, but >>> it's >>> failing with this error right at the start of the screen where it start

Re: Yum messing up again

Am 21.06.2012 22:47, schrieb Joe Zeff: > On 06/21/2012 01:33 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: >> Package rhpl no longer exists but is still installed. Try "yum list extras" >> and "yum check" (if you haven't tried that ever before). >> Uninstall/remove packages that no longer exist. > > When did that

Re: Yum messing up again

Joe Zeff wrote: Right now, I'm at Chaos Manor, housesitting, and using my laptop. (F16 with Xfce) I tried to run a routine update with yumex, but got this error: ERROR: Error in yum Transaction : [u'ERROR with transaction check vs depsolve:', 'python(abi) = 2.6 is needed by (installed) rhpl-0.

Re: Yum messing up again

On 06/21/2012 01:33 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: Package rhpl no longer exists but is still installed. Try "yum list extras" and "yum check" (if you haven't tried that ever before). Uninstall/remove packages that no longer exist. When did that happen? The last time I updated was a few weeks ago

Re: Yum messing up again

On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 13:27:29 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > I've updated on the road dozens of times without the slightest problem, Btw, package "rhpl" last existed in Fedora 12, a couple of years ago. :-) -- Fedora release 17 (Beefy Miracle) - Linux 3.4.2-4.fc17.x86_64 loadavg: 0.95 1.10 1.27 -- u

Re: Yum messing up again

On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 13:12:42 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > Right now, I'm at Chaos Manor, housesitting, and using my laptop. (F16 > with Xfce) I tried to run a routine update with yumex, but got this error: > > ERROR: Error in yum Transaction : [u'ERROR with transaction check vs > depsolve:', 'pyt

Re: Yum messing up again

On 06/21/2012 01:18 PM, Greg Woods wrote: This is because you violated the cardinal rule: never try to update your laptop while you are on the road :-) Especially if you are in a place called Chaos Manor; that's just ASKING for trouble. I've updated on the road dozens of times without the slig

Re: Yum messing up again

On Thu, 2012-06-21 at 13:12 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > Right now, I'm at Chaos Manor, housesitting, and using my laptop. (F16 > with Xfce) I tried to run a routine update with yumex, but got this error: This is because you violated the cardinal rule: never try to update your laptop while you are

Yum messing up again

Right now, I'm at Chaos Manor, housesitting, and using my laptop. (F16 with Xfce) I tried to run a routine update with yumex, but got this error: ERROR: Error in yum Transaction : [u'ERROR with transaction check vs depsolve:', 'python(abi) = 2.6 is needed by (installed) rhpl-0.221-2.i686', u

Re: Weird freeze

On 06/21/2012 12:07 PM, Heinz Diehl wrote: On 21.06.2012, Joe Zeff wrote: Currently, my desktop's running F16, fully updated. Just a few minutes ago, I was reading my morning comics on-line when my box froze. Nothing responded. Does M-sysrq work? I don't have it active and even if I did,

Re: F 17 (64). After update, no network!

On Wed, 2012-06-20 at 13:09 -0400, Natalie Gross wrote: > Now it works if I bring it up manually via systemctl restart > network.service. > But it (network) does not start automatically at boot. And I don't > have that network icon/applet on the bar to start it with a mouse > click. There are two

heisenpointer (Fedora 17 flickering mouse pointer)

Hi, has anyone else seen this? Since installing F17 (probably the first clean fedora install I've done since single digits), I get a flickering mouse pointer when the system is busy. This might be related to the fact the mouse pointer hides instantly (no pause) when stopped over certain window area

Re: Problems with update -- redhat-lsb conflicts

On Thu, 2012-06-21 at 11:25 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > On Wed, 2012-06-20 at 20:17 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 19:48:37 -0400, Jayson Rowe wrote: > > > > > On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 4:15 PM, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > > > > Yum upgrade reports that redhat-lsb needs to

Re: Weird freeze

On 21.06.2012, Joe Zeff wrote: > Currently, my desktop's running F16, fully updated. Just a few minutes ago, > I was reading my morning comics on-line when my box froze. Nothing > responded. Does M-sysrq work? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subs

Re: Problems with update -- redhat-lsb conflicts

On Wed, 2012-06-20 at 20:17 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 19:48:37 -0400, Jayson Rowe wrote: > > > On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 4:15 PM, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > > > Yum upgrade reports that redhat-lsb needs to be updated, but can't > > > because of a an error, to wit: > > >> Pr

OT Re: An apology is required from me.

On 21/06/12 15:39, Mark Haney wrote: On 06/21/2012 10:29 AM, Greg Woods wrote: Well, I think it should be the choices that *I* think are better that should be up first :-) Of course that's the problem, there is no universally-agreed-on definition of "better". --Greg Sure there is, chocolat

Re: display frustration

On 06/21/2012 12:04 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 10:45:58 -0400, Mark Haney wrote: On 06/20/2012 10:31 AM, Dokuro wrote: It's a brand new card and it works perfectly in Windows 7 on the same hardware. You should probably file a bug against xorg-x11-drv-ati. If you aren'

Re: display frustration

On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 10:45:58 -0400, Mark Haney wrote: On 06/20/2012 10:31 AM, Dokuro wrote: It's a brand new card and it works perfectly in Windows 7 on the same hardware. You should probably file a bug against xorg-x11-drv-ati. If you aren't running f17 you might also want to see how

Re: Weird freeze

On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 08:18:03 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: Currently, my desktop's running F16, fully updated. Just a few minutes ago, I was reading my morning comics on-line when my box froze. Nothing responded. Even the second hand on my desktop clock stopped moving. Just as I was about to

Re: [389-users] Problem after disabling anonymous binds

On 2012-06-21 16:20, Nathan Kinder wrote: On 06/21/2012 07:03 AM, Jeroen van Meeuwen (Kolab Systems) wrote: Hi there, I'm curious as to whether anyone else has experienced this problem before; Disabling anonymous binds causes the 389-console to be unable to locate the entry corresponding t

Re: [389-users] Problem after disabling anonymous binds

On 06/21/2012 07:03 AM, Jeroen van Meeuwen (Kolab Systems) wrote: Hi there, I'm curious as to whether anyone else has experienced this problem before; Disabling anonymous binds causes the 389-console to be unable to locate the entry corresponding to the user name used to login with (or so it

Re: E-mail image problem - Correction

On 20/06/12 22:49, Ed Greshko wrote: On 06/21/2012 10:46 AM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: Yes I have 6 or 7 add ons but they have not caused problems before. My daughter just told me that she was seeing a similar problem on her Mac, I believe she is using Thunderbird too.

Weird freeze

Currently, my desktop's running F16, fully updated. Just a few minutes ago, I was reading my morning comics on-line when my box froze. Nothing responded. Even the second hand on my desktop clock stopped moving. Just as I was about to try for an alternate text console, it rebooted itself and

Re: Fedora 18 will install certain updates when rebooting - but only through Gnome3

On 06/21/2012 08:16 PM, Javier Perez wrote: > I do not get. The Fedora Engineering Commitee seems to making bizarre choices. > > For example, this update while rebooting thing. It is a good thing. Therefore > I do > not understand why make it work only through gnome-packagekit >

Re: An apology is required from me.

On 06/21/2012 07:29 AM, Greg Woods wrote: On Thu, 2012-06-21 at 14:18 +0930, Tim wrote: Obviously not, but the better choices should be up first, and by default. Well, I think it should be the choices that *I* think are better that should be up first :-) Of course that's the problem, there i

Re: Fedora 18 will install certain updates when rebooting - but only through Gnome3

On 21.06.2012, Javier Perez wrote: > I wish I knew where Fedora is going. First we have the UEFI thing. Now this > partialization to Gnome. There are some very good distributions out there. The choice is yours. Besides, I agree that there are rare things going on.. -- users mailing list users@

Re: An apology is required from me.

On 06/21/2012 10:29 AM, Greg Woods wrote: Well, I think it should be the choices that *I* think are better that should be up first :-) Of course that's the problem, there is no universally-agreed-on definition of "better". --Greg Sure there is, chocolate and peanut butter is better than e

Re: [389-users] Problem after disabling anonymous binds

On 2012-06-21 15:24, Mark Reynolds wrote: Hi Jeroen, Hi Mark, This is a known problem in 8.2, but it has been fixed in 9.0. There are plans to backport this to 8.2, but this has not been completed yet. Thanks, it's a relief to know I haven't been screwing things up ;-) Kind regards, Je

Re: An apology is required from me.

On Thu, 2012-06-21 at 14:18 +0930, Tim wrote: > Obviously not, but the better choices should be up first, and by > default. Well, I think it should be the choices that *I* think are better that should be up first :-) Of course that's the problem, there is no universally-agreed-on definition of "

Re: [389-users] Problem after disabling anonymous binds

Hi Jeroen, This is a known problem in 8.2, but it has been fixed in 9.0. There are plans to backport this to 8.2, but this has not been completed yet. Mark On 06/21/2012 10:03 AM, Jeroen van Meeuwen (Kolab Systems) wrote: Hi there, I'm curious as to whether anyone else has experienced thi

Re: printer configuration on F17 ???

On 06/21/2012 07:34 PM, fred smith wrote: > yeah, I tried that too. but it didn't offer me a suitable printer driver, > and whatever I tried caused the printer to wake up but not to print. > of course, that was beforoe I thought to install the foomatic pkgs, > so maybe that's the reason it didn't

Re: Install package during installation of the system

2012-06-21 14:40, Celso Viana skrev: I have done this [1] by adding the repository rpmfusion free and nonfree, but the package Virtualbox does not appear in either group. If you can test a virtual machine thank you. [1] http://rpmfusion.org/EnablingRpmFusionDuringFedoraInstall?action=show&red

Re: Install package during installation of the system

> > Are you sure rpmfusion has VirtaulBox and not just kmod\akmod-VirtaulBox > I can't find VirtaulBox on rpmfusion site > > > -- > Regards, > Frank > "Jack of all, fubars" > > -- > users mailing list > users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe or change subscription options: > https://admin.f

Re: Install package during installation of the system

On 06/21/2012 04:50 AM, Celso Viana wrote: Hi all, I would like to install "Virtualbox" already during the installation of "system". both added to the repository rpmfusion free and nonfree, but the package virtualbox does not appear in any of the groups of programs. Does anyone know if this is

Re: Install package during installation of the system

On 21/06/12 13:40, Celso Viana wrote: I have done this [1] by adding the repository rpmfusion free and nonfree, but the package Virtualbox does not appear in either group. If you can test a virtual machine thank you. [1] http://rpmfusion.org/EnablingRpmFusionDuringFedoraInstall?action=show&red

Re: Install package during installation of the system

> > but why in the world do you not simply install it then istead > wasting your time? > > > -- > users mailing list > users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe or change subscription options: > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/

Re: Install package during installation of the system

> > Yes you are right I did misunderstand, > > Well anyway you can install VirtualBox/VirtualBox-OSE when you install > Fedora and come to "Package Group Selection" you can add repo and choose to > customize your installation to add appropriate package. > > You can find this in Fedora 17 Installati

Re: Install package during installation of the system

2012-06-21 13:53, Celso Viana skrev: Have you tried to run yum serach virtualbox? If not do that. I think you misunderstand. I would like to install virtualbox while installing Fedora. After the installed system is easy to make this installation. Thanks Jon. Yes you are right I did misund

Re: Fedora 18 will install certain updates when rebooting - but only through Gnome3

Am 21.06.2012 14:16, schrieb Javier Perez: > I do not get. The Fedora Engineering Commitee seems to making bizarre choices. > > For example, this update while rebooting thing. It is a good thing. Therefore > I do not understand why make it work > only through gnome-packagekit

Re: Fedora 18 will install certain updates when rebooting - but only through Gnome3

On 21/06/12 13:16, Javier Perez wrote: I do not get. The Fedora Engineering Commitee seems to making bizarre choices. Why post to the users list? -- Regards, Frank "Jack of all, fubars" -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://

Re: Fedora 18 will install certain updates when rebooting - but only through Gnome3

On 21 June 2012 13:16, Javier Perez wrote: > For example, this update while rebooting thing. It is a good thing. > Therefore I do not understand why make it work only through > gnome-packagekit. It should work at a more fundamental level, at the Yum > level. It's the wrong layer. I covered this (

Re: display frustration

On 06/20/2012 10:31 AM, Dokuro wrote: On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 9:34 AM, Mark Haney wrote: Okay, I'm still no closer to fixing my display problem. I can't imagine how a graphical installation could work without a hitch and yet the graphical display (indeed, even the CLI) be so FUBAR. My screen i

Fedora 18 will install certain updates when rebooting - but only through Gnome3

I do not get. The Fedora Engineering Commitee seems to making bizarre choices. For example, this update while rebooting thing. It is a good thing. Therefore I do not understand why make it work only through gnome-packagekit. It should work at a more fundame

Re: Install package during installation of the system

Am 21.06.2012 13:53, schrieb Celso Viana: >> Have you tried to run yum serach virtualbox? >> >> If not do that. > > I think you misunderstand. I would like to install virtualbox while > installing Fedora. > > After the installed system is easy to make this installation. but why in the world do

Re: Install package during installation of the system

> Have you tried to run yum serach virtualbox? > > If not do that. I think you misunderstand. I would like to install virtualbox while installing Fedora. After the installed system is easy to make this installation. Thanks Jon. > > There are two versions of VirtualBox, one in Oracle repo and ot

Re: printer configuration on F17 ???

On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 11:13:13AM +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 06/21/2012 11:08 AM, fred smith wrote: > > yeah. done. also installed some foomatic things and then when I chose > > add printer it thought for a couple of minutes and found the printer > > out on the LAN. it assigned the correct (or

Re: Install package during installation of the system

2012-06-21 10:50, Celso Viana skrev: Hi all, I would like to install "Virtualbox" already during the installation of "system". both added to the repository rpmfusion free and nonfree, but the package virtualbox does not appear in any of the groups of programs. Does anyone know if this is possib

Install package during installation of the system

Hi all, I would like to install "Virtualbox" already during the installation of "system". both added to the repository rpmfusion free and nonfree, but the package virtualbox does not appear in any of the groups of programs. Does anyone know if this is possible? -- Celso Vianna BSD User: 51318 h

Re: Curious And Worried.....

On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 20:43:29 -0400, Eddie G.O'Connor Jr-I wrote: > On 06/20/2012 08:35 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > > On 06/20/2012 05:26 PM, Eddie G.O'Connor Jr-I wrote: > >> I got when I was in Terminal checking things there and it says I have > >> "mail" but it's in a folder?.I've abbreviated the

pulse audio application editor

I just installed skype on an F16 system and plugged in my USB headset. Since I'm using pulseaudio the only selection for audio devices within skype was pulse. However my USB headset wasn't being used and it didn't seem select able. I found that when I had skype running and using the "echo test"