Re: how uncover what start iptables?

2012-09-17 Thread Zdenek Pytela
Frantisek Hanzlik pise: > > Try if > > grep -r Requires=iptables.service /lib/systemd > > can be of any help to you. > > In /lib/systemd/ and /etc/systemd/ no service requires iptables. > ("grep -r 'iptables\.service' /lib/systemd/* /etc/systemd/*" return > nothing) There is an inverse way

Re: Installing MATE

2012-09-17 Thread Jon Ingason
2012-09-17 03:49, Ed Greshko skrev: On 09/17/2012 09:35 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 09/17/2012 08:29 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote: I got some questions about MATE and wanted to install it and actually see how it worked. I started with a machine on fc17, which had Cinnamon and XFCE installed. After do

Re: Installing MATE

2012-09-17 Thread Jon Ingason
2012-09-17 02:29, Bill Davidsen skrev: I got some questions about MATE and wanted to install it and actually see how it worked. I started with a machine on fc17, which had Cinnamon and XFCE installed. After doing the yum install, I don't see MATE in the list of managers available at login. Before

Re: start SSHD in services

2012-09-17 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 09/16/2012 09:30 PM, Ed Greshko types: tab completion works very well. systemc(tab) en(tab) ssh(tab) Why doesn't tab completion work for me? Package 1:bash-completion-2.0-1.fc17.noarch already installed and latest version Nothing to do [root@box9 bobg]# syst

Re: start SSHD in services

2012-09-17 Thread Ed Greshko
On 09/17/2012 04:36 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: >Why doesn't tab completion work for me? > >Package 1:bash-completion-2.0-1.fc17.noarch already installed >and latest version >Nothing to do > >[root@box9 bobg]# system [nothing happens when I pres

Re: start SSHD in services

2012-09-17 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 05:41:21PM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 12:11:19PM -0700, jdow wrote: > > >I still find this a useful resource: > > >http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SysVinit_to_Systemd_Cheatsheet > > >Hope that helps... > > Gee, they could make for even more keyboard

Re: start SSHD in services

2012-09-17 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 09/17/2012 04:40 AM, Ed Greshko types: You're typing "system" and a single tab? Nothing happens on the 1st tab since their is more than a single option. type "system"tab-tab and you should see what is available to you There happens to be only one command starting with "systemc" which

Re: start SSHD in services

2012-09-17 Thread Ed Greshko
On 09/17/2012 04:48 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: >Yes, that seems to be it. I was expecting it to act on the first >press. Not sure it's consistent in operation but works well enough >to be useful. AFAIK, it is pretty consistent If there is more than one possibili

Re: Symbolic computation on Fedora

2012-09-17 Thread Jussi Lehtola
On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 13:18:33 +0200 Suvayu Ali wrote: > Hi, > > I need to do symbolic computation from time to time on my Fedora > machine. So far I have tried maxima, which seems quite good for > simple things but often fails to give me any usable results for more > complicated cases. Acquirin

Re: start SSHD in services

2012-09-17 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 09/17/2012 05:05 AM, Ed Greshko types: Yes, that seems to be it. I was expecting it to act on the first >press. Not sure it's consistent in operation but works well enough >to be useful. AFAIK, it is pretty consistent If there is more than one possibility, nothing will happen

ftp with TLS auth

2012-09-17 Thread Michael J Gruber
Hi there, I'ven been struggling to find an ftp client in Fedora which supports TLS auth. Tried ftp, lftp, ncftp, even dolphin (KDE file manager); all fail with "must use TLS auth". Is this due to our use of GNU TLS rather than OpenSSL for many packages? Firefox with FireFTP works... Michael (e

Re: ftp with TLS auth

2012-09-17 Thread Joachim Backes
On 09/17/2012 12:22 PM, Michael J Gruber wrote: > Hi there, > > I'ven been struggling to find an ftp client in Fedora which supports TLS > auth. Tried ftp, lftp, ncftp, even dolphin (KDE file manager); all fail > with "must use TLS auth". > > Is this due to our use of GNU TLS rather than OpenSSL

Re: Why did they f*ck with GIMP?

2012-09-17 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2012-09-17 at 09:21 +1000, Roger wrote: > Alienating Photoshop users is an entirely different subject, not > related to Gimp single or multi screen use. It really should not be > part of this discussion. It implies that they have a mental block > prevention from learning new ways. I do not

Re: Happy Birthday (was Re: Slightly OT about urls)

2012-09-17 Thread Lailah
El sáb, 15-09-2012 a las 16:24 -0700, Joe Zeff escribió: > On 09/15/2012 04:01 PM, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > > Well, what do you know - you were born on the same day as I was. > > Happy birthday. > > And to you! That makes three people I know who share my birthday. Happy Birthday to you a

Re: Why did they f*ck with GIMP?

2012-09-17 Thread Lailah
El dom, 16-09-2012 a las 01:44 +0530, Rahul Sundaram escribió: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 09/15/2012 10:50 PM, Lailah wrote: > > > Oh! I agree with the format stuff. Why they don't let me choose what > > format by default I want? Why, if I edit a jpg, I have to

No NetworkManager, no IN

2012-09-17 Thread Joe Feely
I'm using f16, kernel-3.4.9-2.fc16.i686.PAE All was well until I starting a yum update (2 days ago), which advised that I do a complete-transactions, and some checking for dupes, and a couple of other things which I don't recall (sorry I'm not good at recalling some details). I think that was what

Slightly OT: Red Hat vs Twin Peaks

2012-09-17 Thread Christopher Svanefalk
Interesting story at Groklaw...just thought I would share: http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20120913073511444 -- Best, Christopher Svanefalk -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listin

Re: No NetworkManager, no IN

2012-09-17 Thread fedora
try systemctl start network.service or the appropriate in your fedora version. suomi On 2012-09-17 14:11, Joe Feely wrote: I'm using f16, kernel-3.4.9-2.fc16.i686.PAE All was well until I starting a yum update (2 days ago), which advised that I do a complete-transactions, and some checking fo

Re: Booting Grub2 on F17

2012-09-17 Thread Zdenek Pytela
Jim pise: > Fedora 17 > > This is a dual boot computer Fedora and Windows 7 > > How would I edit /boot/grub2/grub.cfg to get the the boot process to > stop at the Menu to be able to select Fedora or Windows7. > > I do not want to have to hit "Return" or "Tab" to get it to stop at > the Selection

Re: No NetworkManager, no IN

2012-09-17 Thread Joe Feely
On 17/09/12 13:13, Reindl Harald wrote: > Am 17.09.2012 14:11, schrieb Joe Feely: >> I was thinking of getting the appropriate NetworkManager rpm file and >> simply install it. I had a look around online but not quite getting >> it. Maybe I'm being too simplistic! > http://koji.fedoraproject.org/

F16 => F17 PreUpgrade Invalid Device ID Dumps to dracut Shell

2012-09-17 Thread bhanks
I delayed the upgrade of my main Fedora machine after reading all of the issues that were happening with the preupgrade process. I've done several fresh installs without issue, so I suspected that my delay would have provided enough time for the preupgrade issues to be worked out. I was wrong

Re: F16 => F17 PreUpgrade Invalid Device ID Dumps to dracut Shell

2012-09-17 Thread Neil Bird
Around about 17/09/12 15:30, bha...@bhanks.net typed ... I've searched all over and not found any reference to this exact problem. Any ideas? I had grub issues after an upgrade (DVD-based, though), and mine was down (among *many* other things) to a stuffed /boot/grub2/device.map, which I t

[389-users] 389 DS Achitecture for Multiple Sites

2012-09-17 Thread Kyle Flavin
I'm looking to deploy 389 Directory in my environment to replace an existing iPlanet installation. I would be using it primarily to store user account data for authentication purposes. I have two physically separate data centers that I would like to share the same directory tree. My initial thin

Firefox tabs position -

2012-09-17 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
I have two F-17/64/XFCE computers with Firefox 15.0 installed. On one View > Toolbars > Tabs on Top allows me to put the tabs where I want them, not on top! On this computer that selection is missing. Perhaps the result of a day's difference in updates, if so I wont update Firef

Re: Firefox tabs position -

2012-09-17 Thread Joe Wulf
I care.  What you are finding is the reason why I tend to wait 'a' release, sometimes two before committing to it. I am with you--NOT on top! > > From: "Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA" >To: Fedora List >Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 11:24 AM >Subject: F

Re: Firefox tabs position -

2012-09-17 Thread Ed Greshko
On 09/17/2012 11:24 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: >I have two F-17/64/XFCE computers with Firefox 15.0 installed. > >On one View > Toolbars > Tabs on Top allows me to put the tabs where >I want them, not on top! On this computer that selection is missing. > >Perhaps t

Re: Byobu

2012-09-17 Thread Phil Dobbin
Phil Dobbin wrote: > > After the last kernel upgrade (=> 3.5.3-1) notifications in Byobu ceased > to work (amongst other things: an existing kvm machine no longer works > as Nautilus keeps crashing when it's launched so I had to re-install that). > > I've tried reverting back to 5.17 with no luc

Re: ftp with TLS auth

2012-09-17 Thread Gabriel VLASIU
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 17 Sep 2012, Michael J Gruber wrote: > I'ven been struggling to find an ftp client in Fedora which supports TLS > auth. Tried ftp, lftp, ncftp, even dolphin (KDE file manager); all fail > with "must use TLS auth". I think filezilla has ssl/tls

Re: Firefox tabs position -

2012-09-17 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 09/17/2012 11:31 AM, Ed Greshko types: I don't really care...since I don't use firefox:-) But, if you go toabout:config and toggle the preference "browser.tabs.onTop" does it provide you with the behavior you seek? Yes, I asked to soon! Google provided: How do I put ta

Re: Booting Grub2 on F17

2012-09-17 Thread Jim
On 09/17/2012 09:17 AM, Zdenek Pytela wrote: Jim pise: Fedora 17 This is a dual boot computer Fedora and Windows 7 How would I edit /boot/grub2/grub.cfg to get the the boot process to stop at the Menu to be able to select Fedora or Windows7. I do not want to have to hit "Return" or "Tab" to g

Re: Installing MATE

2012-09-17 Thread Bill Davidsen
Ed Greshko wrote: On 09/17/2012 08:29 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote: I got some questions about MATE and wanted to install it and actually see how it worked. I started with a machine on fc17, which had Cinnamon and XFCE installed. After doing the yum install, I don't see MATE in the list of manager

Re: Installing MATE

2012-09-17 Thread Rex Dieter
Bill Davidsen wrote: > Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 09/17/2012 08:29 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote: >>> I got some questions about MATE and wanted to install it and actually >>> see how it worked. I started with a machine on fc17, which had Cinnamon >>> and XFCE installed. After doing the yum install, I don'

Re: Why did they f*ck with GIMP?

2012-09-17 Thread Mike Williams
On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Lailah wrote: > > Oh! I agree with the format stuff. Why they don't let me choose what > format by default I want? Why, if I edit a jpg, I have to save it as a xcf? > Is very annoying. > But I don't call it "fsck with Gimp". I call it a bug. > If I knew how to

Re: Installing MATE

2012-09-17 Thread Bill Davidsen
Rex Dieter wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: Ed Greshko wrote: On 09/17/2012 08:29 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote: I got some questions about MATE and wanted to install it and actually see how it worked. I started with a machine on fc17, which had Cinnamon and XFCE installed. After doing the yum install,

Re: Clamd and systemd

2012-09-17 Thread Arthur Dent
On Mon, 2012-09-17 at 11:04 +0200, Zdenek Pytela wrote: > Arthur Dent pise: > > Hello all, > > > > Has anyone got a simple walkthrough for configuring clamd and getting it > > working with systemd on F17? > > > > I am getting lost in the myriad of and PID (etc. etc.) things > > I have to change

Re: Why did they f*ck with GIMP?

2012-09-17 Thread Doug
On 09/17/2012 07:24 AM, Tim wrote: On Mon, 2012-09-17 at 09:21 +1000, Roger wrote: Alienating Photoshop users is an entirely different subject, not related to Gimp single or multi screen use. It really should not be part of this discussion. It implies that they have a mental block prevention fro

Re: Re: F16 => F17 PreUpgrade Invalid Device ID Dumps to dracut > Shell (Neil Bird)

2012-09-17 Thread bhanks
>I had grub issues after an upgrade (DVD-based, though), and mine was down (among *many* other things) to a stuffed /boot/grub2/device.map, which I then had to re-create from grub2-mkdevicemap (all done from a recovery-boot off an install DVD, chroot'ed into /mnt/sysimage). I learnt (&

Re: Slightly OT: Red Hat vs Twin Peaks

2012-09-17 Thread Joe Zeff
On 09/17/2012 05:16 AM, Christopher Svanefalk wrote: Interesting story at Groklaw...just thought I would share: http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20120913073511444 Yup! The legal principle is called "tu quoque" or "you too." You're not allowed to sue somebody for something when you'

mount path for disk on key

2012-09-17 Thread Kevin Wilson
Hello, When I insert a disk on key into a desktop running Fedora release 17 it is mounted under /run/media/root/B5A2-5890 Is there a way for setting a different path when inserting a disk on key into fedora 17 ? rgs, Kevin -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or cha

RE: ftp with TLS auth

2012-09-17 Thread Patrick Kobly
try doing: set ftp:ssl-auth TLS set ftp:ssl-force true set ftp:ssl-allow yes set ftp:ssl-protect-list yes set ftp:ssl-protect-data yes set ftp:ssl-protect-fxp yes in lftp (if you're connecting to an ftp server that uses TLS in explicit mode (i.e. connect on port 21) PK -Original message---

no zoom in korganizer?

2012-09-17 Thread George Avrunin
On a fully-updated F17 x86_64, I decided to try korganizer again after not using it for a couple of years. I would like to zoom vertically in the calendar section to increase the vertical space per hour (mostly in the work week view, but also in the day view). From the documentation I can find, I

Re: Installing MATE

2012-09-17 Thread Ed Greshko
On 09/18/2012 12:32 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote: > Okay, so the MATE stuff is in the Fedora repository but doesn't seem to work > and conflicts with the repository which might work. I will just tell the user > with the the problem that it's not actually supported in fc17 even though it > is there in

freezing mouse (perhaps OT)

2012-09-17 Thread Ranjan Maitra
Dear friends, I am not sure that Fedora has anything to do with this: quite likely, this is my old computer (9+ years-old, Dell Precision 650 running F17 LXDE spin, every software component zealously updated). For the past seven or ten days, my USB mouse has been freezing on me. This happens quit

Fedora 16 to 17

2012-09-17 Thread Jeffrey Ross
I'm about to take the plunge and upgrade, I've upgraded systems in the past with varying degrees of initial success and eventually everything works out ok. My problem this time is I have 2 systems running F16 x86_64 the Systems are almost identical and I know they will cause me some grief so I'm l

Re: mount path for disk on key

2012-09-17 Thread Mateusz Marzantowicz
On 17.09.2012 19:47, Kevin Wilson wrote: > Hello, > When I insert a disk on key into a desktop running > Fedora release 17 it is mounted under > /run/media/root/B5A2-5890 > > Is there a way for setting a different path when inserting a disk on key > into fedora 17 ? > > Yes, but the path will be o

Re: Fedora 16 to 17

2012-09-17 Thread Mateusz Marzantowicz
On 17.09.2012 22:39, Jeffrey Ross wrote: > I'm about to take the plunge and upgrade, I've upgraded systems in the > past with varying degrees of initial success and eventually everything > works out ok. > > My problem this time is I have 2 systems running F16 x86_64 the Systems > are almost identic

Re: Fedora 17 in a CHROOT on Ubuntu - and the wrong dependency on rpmlib(X-CheckUnifiedSystemdir)

2012-09-17 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 08:20:13PM -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote: > Suvayu Ali wrote: > > > >I have a similar build system for SLC 5.7. Our software can also be > >deployed in a VM; I have tried that but found the overhead of using a VM > >(build times, test job run times and the fact that you have t

Re: freezing mouse (perhaps OT)

2012-09-17 Thread Patrick Lists
On 09/17/2012 10:38 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: Dear friends, I am not sure that Fedora has anything to do with this: quite likely, this is my old computer (9+ years-old, Dell Precision 650 running F17 LXDE spin, every software component zealously updated). For the past seven or ten days, my USB m

Re: Why did they f*ck with GIMP?

2012-09-17 Thread Peter Boy
Am Sonntag, den 16.09.2012, 13:20 -0400 schrieb Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.: > On 09/14/2012 02:32 PM, Alan Evans wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 11:27 AM, fred smith wrote: > >> because there's been a LOT of whining from many people about the multi- > >> window interface. Allegedly it alienates Photo

Re: Why did they f*ck with GIMP?

2012-09-17 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 14.09.2012 15:57, schrieb Heinz Diehl: > On 14.09.2012, Bryn M. Reeves wrote: > >> What is it that you don't like in the new GIMP? For me the single window >> interface is far preferable to the old lets-hunt-around-the-workspace >> mode and it's optional if you do prefer the free-floating la

Re: start SSHD in services

2012-09-17 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 16.09.2012 19:00, schrieb Jim: > Fedora 17 > SSHD is not in or started in Services , how do I start it? systemctl enable sshd.service systemctl start sshd.service man systemctl man systemd signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraprojec

Re: start SSHD in services

2012-09-17 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 16.09.2012 21:11, schrieb jdow: > On 2012/09/16 10:08, Arthur Dent wrote: >> On Sun, 2012-09-16 at 13:00 -0400, Jim wrote: >>> Fedora 17 >>> SSHD is not in or started in Services , how do I start it ? >> >> As root: >> systemctl enable sshd.service (to ensure it starts at boot time) >> systemc

Re: start SSHD in services

2012-09-17 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 17.09.2012 10:48, schrieb Bob Goodwin - Zuni: > On 09/17/2012 04:40 AM, Ed Greshko types: >> You're typing "system" and a single tab? Nothing happens on the 1st tab >> since their is more than a single >> option. type "system"tab-tab and you should see what is available to >> you >> >

Re: No NetworkManager, no IN

2012-09-17 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 17.09.2012 14:11, schrieb Joe Feely: > I was thinking of getting the appropriate NetworkManager rpm file and > simply install it. I had a look around online but not quite getting > it. Maybe I'm being too simplistic! http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=335 signature.a

Re: F16 => F17 PreUpgrade Invalid Device ID Dumps to dracut Shell

2012-09-17 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 17.09.2012 16:30, schrieb bha...@bhanks.net: > I delayed the upgrade of my main Fedora machine after reading all of the > issues that were happening with the > preupgrade process. I've done several fresh installs without issue, so I > suspected that my delay would have > provided enough tim

Re: Fedora 17 in a CHROOT on Ubuntu - and the wrong dependency on rpmlib(X-CheckUnifiedSystemdir)

2012-09-17 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 5:32 AM, Marc Wäckerlin wrote: > Hi > > I am working in Ubuntu and compiling RPMs for Fedora. That's why I install > Fedora in > a **chroot** environment. That works fine with Fedora 16, but fails with > Fedora 17 due > to the wrong "rpmlib(X-CheckUnifiedSystemdir)" depen

Re: Why did they f*ck with GIMP?

2012-09-17 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
On 09/17/2012 07:24 AM, Tim wrote: On Mon, 2012-09-17 at 09:21 +1000, Roger wrote: Alienating Photoshop users is an entirely different subject, not related to Gimp single or multi screen use. It really should not be part of this discussion. It implies that they have a mental block prevention fro

Software Removal....

2012-09-17 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
Hey all, I'm running F-17 on a 32 Bit System with 3GB RAM, and an Intel 2935 Proc. My problem is: I'm trying to remove some apps that are installed, namely ones that don't even functionsome title are: "Tetravex" - Some sort of mutated Sudoku game, "Nibbles" some form of worm game and a fe

Re: Software Removal....

2012-09-17 Thread Frank Cox
On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 00:37:17 -0400 Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: > I'm trying to remove some apps that are installed, > namely ones that don't even functionsome title are: "Tetravex" - > Some sort of mutated Sudoku game, "Nibbles" some form of worm game and a > few others. I have tried goin