Re: Clamd and systemd

2012-09-20 Thread Zdenek Pytela
Arthur Dent pise: > Well sadly no joy... > > # yum install clamav-scanner-systemd > > # systemctl enable clamd.scan.service > Failed to issue method call: No such file or directory Just for the record: there are differences between f16 and f17, the f16's /lib/systemd/system/clamd.scan.ser

Re: Clamd and systemd

2012-09-20 Thread Bill Shirley
On 9/20/2012 5:02 AM, Zdenek Pytela wrote: Arthur Dent pise: Well sadly no joy... # yum install clamav-scanner-systemd # systemctl enable clamd.scan.service Failed to issue method call: No such file or directory Just for the record: there are differences between f16 and f17, the f16'

Re: Clamd and systemd

2012-09-20 Thread Zdenek Pytela
Daniel J Walsh pise: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 09/19/2012 07:36 AM, Bill Shirley wrote: > > > > On 9/19/2012 5:47 AM, Arthur Dent wrote: > >>> "What tells it that it is a "scan" service? That bit of the puzzle > >>> seems to be missing..." > >>> > >>> Whatever is t

Re: Clamd and systemd

2012-09-20 Thread Zdenek Pytela
Arthur Dent pise: > On Wed, 2012-09-19 at 17:00 -0400, Bill Shirley wrote: > > > > On 9/19/2012 3:36 PM, Arthur Dent wrote: > > > > > On Wed, 2012-09-19 at 10:47 +0100, Arthur Dent wrote: > > > > > > > All is not _quite_ perfect however. In calling clamdscan from my script > > > (itself called

Re: UEFI bootkit

2012-09-20 Thread Alan Cox
> The question I have is, can the buyer simply choose NOT to > use uefi (i.e. blow it off the system) and boot any OS of choice > which will not insist on the presence of any UEFI? No. > I think the answer to this question is more important as it provides > an "opt-out" choice to the consumer. T

Re: UEFI bootkit

2012-09-20 Thread Alan Cox
> In that case, I feel that many people will start building open source > bioses for a limited set of mobos. They will provide the software to > burn the bios into the mobo's eeprom or will even sell mobo's which > them modify and install their own bios prom on. I think nature abhors > vaccum. Th

Re: UEFI bootkit

2012-09-20 Thread Eddie O'Connor
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 7:09 AM, Alan Cox wrote: > > In that case, I feel that many people will start building open source > > bioses for a limited set of mobos. They will provide the software to > > burn the bios into the mobo's eeprom or will even sell mobo's which > > them modify and install t

Re: UEFI bootkit

2012-09-20 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 12:06:08PM +0100, Alan Cox wrote: > On ARM systems the requirement is the reverse - it must not be possible > to disable it, so those devices will be locked to Windows if shipped that > way. Locked to bootloaders signed with the Microsoft key, not _necessarily_ to Windows,

Re: UEFI bootkit

2012-09-20 Thread Eddie O'Connor
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 7:10 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 12:06:08PM +0100, Alan Cox wrote: > > On ARM systems the requirement is the reverse - it must not be possible > > to disable it, so those devices will be locked to Windows if shipped that > > way. > > Locked to bootlo

Re: UEFI bootkit

2012-09-20 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 20.09.2012, Eddie O'Connor wrote: > Right? And the only way to be able to iunstall/boot > another OS would be to turn the UEFI offbut without the proper > keythat is impossible? To be able to boot any other system than Windows, you have to turn off secure boot or you could use your o

Re: UEFI bootkit

2012-09-20 Thread jdow
On 2012/09/20 04:13, Eddie O'Connor wrote: On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 7:10 AM, Matthew Miller mailto:mat...@fedoraproject.org>> wrote: On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 12:06:08PM +0100, Alan Cox wrote: > On ARM systems the requirement is the reverse - it must not be possible > to disable it,

Re: UEFI bootkit

2012-09-20 Thread Alan Cox
> So then basically there's no REAL way to get a "modern" PC / laptop WITHOUT > this UEFI on it? Right? And the only way to be able to iunstall/boot > another OS would be to turn the UEFI offbut without the proper > keythat is impossible? Just trying to understand what this means when > it'

Re: UEFI bootkit

2012-09-20 Thread Alan Cox
On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 07:10:00 -0400 Matthew Miller wrote: > On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 12:06:08PM +0100, Alan Cox wrote: > > On ARM systems the requirement is the reverse - it must not be possible > > to disable it, so those devices will be locked to Windows if shipped that > > way. > > Locked to bo

Re: UEFI bootkit

2012-09-20 Thread Alan Cox
> But it IS possible no?..providing one has the required information > about how to do it? Clearly because the firmware vendors do it but with access to all the needed documentation and signing arrangements that may be present. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubs

Re: UEFI bootkit

2012-09-20 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 04:29:47AM -0700, jdow wrote: > That is why I like my unique to the machine key that is supplied to the > user along with the board serial number. So he can make changes. But the > changes for his system cannot affect other systems. That would make > custom signed Linux kern

Re: UEFI bootkit

2012-09-20 Thread jdow
On 2012/09/20 04:45, Matthew Miller wrote: On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 04:29:47AM -0700, jdow wrote: That is why I like my unique to the machine key that is supplied to the user along with the board serial number. So he can make changes. But the changes for his system cannot affect other systems. Th

FC17-Cannot open Font File True

2012-09-20 Thread Vincent
Hi Folks, I recently downloaded the FC17 iso, in order to try out Fedora.(Ubuntu user) via torrent and did a checksum verification check which said that one file couldn't be read and 20 were not formatted properly. The pgp key checked out OK. After installing and rebooting, all went well up to j

Re: Java applets not working in firefox in fedora 17

2012-09-20 Thread Lailah
El mar, 18-09-2012 a las 20:31 +0530, Kalpa Welivitigoda escribió: > Hi, > > I use fedora 17 64 bit and my firefox version is 12.0. Java applets > are not run in firefox. I have icedtea-web installed and following are > the content of my /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugin/ > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root

Re: FC17-Cannot open Font File True

2012-09-20 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 02:32:46PM +0200, Vincent wrote: > Now when it starts to boot it does the "cannot font file true" thing > and then, after the upgrade, says there is an orphan file link with > missing files and drops me to a shell from where I exit and fedora > then does a repair of files an

Re: UEFI bootkit

2012-09-20 Thread Dave Ihnat
Once, long ago--actually, on Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 06:39:59AM CDT--Alan Cox (a...@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk) said: > Clearly because the firmware vendors do it but with access to all the > needed documentation and signing arrangements that may be present. Note that there are already open-source BIOS ver

Re: FC17-Cannot open Font File True

2012-09-20 Thread Vincent
On 20/09/2012 14:59, Matthew Miller wrote: On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 02:32:46PM +0200, Vincent wrote: Now when it starts to boot it does the "cannot font file true" thing and then, after the upgrade, says there is an orphan file link with missing files and drops me to a shell from where I exit and

Re: FC17-Cannot open Font File True

2012-09-20 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 03:58:25PM +0200, Vincent wrote: > Thanks Matthew, seems I'm between a rock & a hard place here. I > don't know whether to install all upgraded packages as this is a > fresh install & risk being dropped to a shell every time I boot, or Well, since it's a fresh install, at l

Re: FC17-Cannot open Font File True

2012-09-20 Thread lostson
On Thu, 2012-09-20 at 15:58 +0200, Vincent wrote: > On 20/09/2012 14:59, Matthew Miller wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 02:32:46PM +0200, Vincent wrote: > >> Now when it starts to boot it does the "cannot font file true" thing > >> and then, after the upgrade, says there is an orphan file link w

Re: Clamd and systemd

2012-09-20 Thread Arthur Dent
> > On 9/19/2012 5:54 PM, Arthur Dent wrote: >> On Wed, 2012-09-19 at 17:00 -0400, Bill Shirley wrote: >>> On 9/19/2012 3:36 PM, Arthur Dent wrote: >>> On Wed, 2012-09-19 at 10:47 +0100, Arthur Dent wrote: >> [snip] useful recipe (similar to mine). The thing is, for me "clamdscan >> --no

Re: Java applets not working in firefox in fedora 17

2012-09-20 Thread Kalpa Welivitigoda
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 10:41 PM, Lailah wrote: > > El mar, 18-09-2012 a las 20:31 +0530, Kalpa Welivitigoda escribió: > > Hi, > > I use fedora 17 64 bit and my firefox version is 12.0. Java applets > are not run in firefox. I have icedtea-web installed and following are > the content of my /usr/l

Re: FC17-Cannot open Font File True

2012-09-20 Thread Vincent
On 20/09/2012 16:09, lostson wrote: On Thu, 2012-09-20 at 15:58 +0200, Vincent wrote: On 20/09/2012 14:59, Matthew Miller wrote: On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 02:32:46PM +0200, Vincent wrote: I have 3 machines running Fedora 17 I get the font error but I do not get dropped to a shell I can stil

Re: cd reader external

2012-09-20 Thread Rick Stevens
On 09/19/2012 04:35 PM, Mikkel L. Ellertson uttered this comment: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/19/2012 04:46 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: On 09/19/2012 12:16 PM, Mikkel L. Ellertson uttered this comment: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/19/2012 11:50 AM,

Re: UEFI bootkit

2012-09-20 Thread James Wilkinson
nomnex wrote: > I also read that (most?) vendor will allow Secure boot to be switch off > on the BIOS. > > When I purchase a notebook (Prior to Secure boot), I erase the > partition. I boot from a Live CD. If everything seems to work, and if I > like the DE, I install the OS. > > And that's my qu

Re: cd reader external

2012-09-20 Thread Steven Stern
On 09/19/2012 10:14 PM, Tim wrote: > On Wed, 2012-09-19 at 14:18 +0200, Patrick Dupre wrote: >> Can I use (mount?) a cd reader from another computer? >> Both computers are on internet, In aother words can I do a >> mount 122.255.988.10:/dev/cdrom or similar? > > You'd mount it on the computer it's

Re: Loosing the keyboard

2012-09-20 Thread Geoffrey Leach
Thanks to all who replied, especially the snark. I'm replying this way because mailings from the list have been disabled. Excessive bounces, they say. the system in question is a laptop, so there's only one kbd, and its not USB. The problem is that for no apparent reason typing on the kbd does

Re: UEFI bootkit

2012-09-20 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
On 09/20/2012 07:27 AM, Heinz Diehl wrote: On 20.09.2012, Eddie O'Connor wrote: Right? And the only way to be able to iunstall/boot another OS would be to turn the UEFI offbut without the proper keythat is impossible? To be able to boot any other system than Windows, you have to turn o

Re: UEFI bootkit

2012-09-20 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
On 09/20/2012 08:24 AM, jdow wrote: On 2012/09/20 04:45, Matthew Miller wrote: On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 04:29:47AM -0700, jdow wrote: That is why I like my unique to the machine key that is supplied to the user along with the board serial number. So he can make changes. But the changes for his

Re: UEFI bootkit

2012-09-20 Thread JD
On 09/20/2012 07:56 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: On 09/20/2012 08:24 AM, jdow wrote: On 2012/09/20 04:45, Matthew Miller wrote: On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 04:29:47AM -0700, jdow wrote: That is why I like my unique to the machine key that is supplied to the user along with the board serial nu

Jigdo: is it ever coming back?

2012-09-20 Thread Renich Bon Ciric
I really miss jigdo. It was a great way of updating the alpha iso into the beta one. It would be mega-cool to have it available for F18... -- It's hard to be free... but I love to struggle. Love isn't asked for; it's just given. Respect isn't asked for; it's earned! Renich Bon Ciric http://www.w

Re: UEFI bootkit

2012-09-20 Thread jdow
On 2012/09/20 19:38, JD wrote: On 09/20/2012 07:56 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: On 09/20/2012 08:24 AM, jdow wrote: On 2012/09/20 04:45, Matthew Miller wrote: On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 04:29:47AM -0700, jdow wrote: That is why I like my unique to the machine key that is supplied to the use

Re: UEFI bootkit

2012-09-20 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 21.09.2012, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: > >To be able to boot any other system than Windows, you have to turn > >off secure boot or you could use your own keys signed by Microsoft. > >It's not (U)EFI which is the problem, it's the "secure boot". > AAAhhh!! NOW I think I understand!.. Yo

Re: UEFI bootkit

2012-09-20 Thread Mateusz Marzantowicz
On 21.09.2012 07:42, Heinz Diehl wrote: > On 21.09.2012, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: > >>> To be able to boot any other system than Windows, you have to turn >>> off secure boot or you could use your own keys signed by Microsoft. >>> It's not (U)EFI which is the problem, it's the "secure boot". >