Re: humble suggestion to Fedora developers

2013-01-28 Thread Junk
On 27 Jan 2013, at 23:55, Philip Rhoades p...@pricom.com.au wrote: People, Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 15:18:40 -0500 From: Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. eoconno...@gmail.com To: Community support for Fedora users users@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: humble suggestion to Fedora developers

Re: Display rates -

2013-01-28 Thread poma
On 01/28/2013 05:44 AM, David wrote: On 1/27/2013 11:21 PM, poma wrote: On 01/28/2013 03:02 AM, David wrote: On 1/27/2013 7:31 PM, poma wrote: On 01/27/2013 09:54 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: On 01/27/2013 01:57 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote: xrandr -q No that just shows the same

Re: rsync (ssh) authorisation weirdness on F18

2013-01-28 Thread William Murray
In F18 the rsync command fails to connect: dbus-daemon[938]: Could not create directory '/root/.ssh'. dbus-daemon[938]: Host key verification failed. Check /var/log/audit/audit.log. SELinux is probably denying access to the script in networkmanager's context. Dear Gordon,

Re: rsync (ssh) authorisation weirdness on F18

2013-01-28 Thread William Murray
On 28/01/13 09:54, William Murray wrote: In F18 the rsync command fails to connect: dbus-daemon[938]: Could not create directory '/root/.ssh'. dbus-daemon[938]: Host key verification failed. Check /var/log/audit/audit.log. SELinux is probably denying access to the script in

Re: Display rates -

2013-01-28 Thread g
On 01/27/2013 08:54 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: On 01/27/2013 01:57 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote: xrandr -q No that just shows the same thing, the equipment is rated much higher. [root@Box9 xorg.conf.d]# xrandr -q Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1024 x

Re: rsync (ssh) authorisation weirdness on F18

2013-01-28 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 01/28/2013 12:54 AM, William Murray wrote: Thanks, thats it. I put selinux on permissive in the client, and got 258 selinux warnings, but my files are backed up again. I tidied a lot like this: grep rsync /var/log/audit/audit.log | audit2allow -M mypol Don't do that. I see something

Re: Optimization Start Up of Fedora

2013-01-28 Thread Jorge Martínez López
Hi! 2013/1/27 carachi diego carach...@gmail.com But if I compile the kernel without all unnecessary drivers and packet, Can I obtain more performance than only disable some service? The Fedora kernel (and actually any other distribution) has most of its kernel options compiled as modules

Re: firewalld v. libvirtd

2013-01-28 Thread Jorge Martínez López
Hi Rob: 2013/1/28 Robert Locke li...@ralii.com I would like to associate the virbr0 interface, created by libvirtd, to be considered part of the internal zone, since I trust my own VMs talking to the host. But, what is the supportable method for accomplishing this? There is no ifcfg- where I

Re: Fedora hangs driving me nuts, in Windows it works without problems!

2013-01-28 Thread Arun SAG
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 8:02 PM, valent.turko...@gmail.com valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: Found these instructions: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_use_kdump_to_debug_kernel_crashes And updated to kernel 3.8 rc2 from rawhide and enabled kdump on that kernel... trap is set, now I wait

Advice needed on setting up a second DHCP network on separate Ethernet controller with access to internet

2013-01-28 Thread Aaron Gray
Hi, with the new firewalld and possible changes to Fedora. I need advice on setting up a second DHCP network on 192.168.01.x on a separate Ethernet controller with access to internet for http and https and DNS for the second network from the existing 192.168.0.1 DHCP network and controller. This

Re: How to do backups to an external disk inside emergency mode

2013-01-28 Thread Paul Smith
On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 11:39 PM, Garry T. Williams gtwilli...@gmail.com wrote: Actually, I am not so sure that my hard disk is corrupted. I have just filed the following bug report: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=904853 Then you should examine /var/log/audit/audit.log when you

F18 Xorg/drm/kernel - Failed to find memory space for buffer 0xXXX eviction

2013-01-28 Thread Wolfgang S. Rupprecht
On most of my systems the F17 to F18 upgrade went well. On the main one, my desktop, I'm seeing a string of failures that leaves the display in various states of unusable depending on the positions of the stars and planets. The file /var/log/messages contains the following and the displays have

Re: Tool to compare directories

2013-01-28 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 11:49:29 +, Paul Smith phh...@gmail.com wrote: Dear All, Could you please advise me on a tool to compare two directories? That is a tool able to identify the files of the first directory that are missing in the second one? You can use diff -r to recursively

Re: Tool to compare directories

2013-01-28 Thread Jens Neu
On 28.01.2013 13:49, Paul Smith wrote: Could you please advise me on a tool to compare two directories? That is a tool able to identify the files of the first directory that are missing in the second one? fdupes is also worth to look at... -Jens -- users mailing list

Re: rant: cifs utterly screwed in fedora 18

2013-01-28 Thread Steven Stern
On 01/25/2013 06:21 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: smbd[20596]: WARNING: Ignoring invalid value 'SHARE' for parameter 'security' This is unacceptably stupid. The guys with the tinfoil hats who think that connecting a computer to AC power is insecure have obviously taken over. It is now utterly

Re: Optimization Start Up of Fedora

2013-01-28 Thread Wolfgang S. Rupprecht
carachi diego carach...@gmail.com writes: I would like to know if someone knows where I can find some guide, tutorial  that can help me to improve the performance of Fedora on my laptop in start up. The biggest change you can make to your laptop to get it to boot faster is throw out the

Re: rant: cifs utterly screwed in fedora 18

2013-01-28 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 28.01.2013 14:01, schrieb Steven Stern: This works for XP: public below may work $ more smb.conf [global] workgroup = LITTERBOX server string = samba security = share this works surely not with samba 4.0.x or better said has no effect if you re-read the OP passdb backend = tdbsam

Re: network-scripts documentation

2013-01-28 Thread Wolfgang S. Rupprecht
Sam Varshavchik mr...@courier-mta.com writes: My old router, that was running DD-WRT firmware, bit the dust. The stock brand router that replaced it doesn't have the ability to send NTP for clients via DHCP. I'm trying to figure out if I had drop something into

Re: Optimization Start Up of Fedora

2013-01-28 Thread Ian Malone
On 28 January 2013 13:11, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wolfgang.ruppre...@gmail.com wrote: carachi diego carach...@gmail.com writes: I would like to know if someone knows where I can find some guide, tutorial that can help me to improve the performance of Fedora on my laptop in start up. The

Re: rant: cifs utterly screwed in fedora 18

2013-01-28 Thread Steven Stern
On 01/28/2013 07:15 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 28.01.2013 14:01, schrieb Steven Stern: This works for XP: public below may work $ more smb.conf [global] workgroup = LITTERBOX server string = samba security = share this works surely not with samba 4.0.x or better said has no

Re: Tool to compare directories

2013-01-28 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 06:16:16AM -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 11:49:29 +, Paul Smith phh...@gmail.com wrote: Dear All, Could you please advise me on a tool to compare two directories? That is a tool able to identify the files of the first directory that are

Re: How to set enforcing to 0?

2013-01-28 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/27/2013 07:44 AM, Paul Smith wrote: On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: By running journalctl, I got the following: kernel: ata1.00 exception emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 action 0x0 kernel: ata1.00: BMDMA

Re: rsync (ssh) authorisation weirdness on F18

2013-01-28 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/28/2013 04:36 AM, Gordon Messmer wrote: On 01/28/2013 12:54 AM, William Murray wrote: Thanks, thats it. I put selinux on permissive in the client, and got 258 selinux warnings, but my files are backed up again. I tidied a lot like this:

Re: Tool to compare directories

2013-01-28 Thread Jack Craig
i use the attached.. On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 3:49 AM, Paul Smith phh...@gmail.com wrote: Dear All, Could you please advise me on a tool to compare two directories? That is a tool able to identify the files of the first directory that are missing in the second one? Thanks in advance,

Re: Tool to compare directories

2013-01-28 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2013-01-28 at 15:32 +0100, Suvayu Ali wrote: On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 06:16:16AM -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 11:49:29 +, Paul Smith phh...@gmail.com wrote: Dear All, Could you please advise me on a tool to compare two directories? That is a tool

f18: compiz, initial package for f18, and Gnome3

2013-01-28 Thread Dario Lesca
Is possible use the initial package for f18 compiz with Gnome 3? Or it is only for other D.E.? Thanks -- Dario Lesca - sip:da...@solinos.it (Inviato dal mio Linux Fedora18+Gnome3) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options:

Anything Like Solaris' Live Ugrade?

2013-01-28 Thread Tim Evans
Does anyone know of any sort of Linux utility that does something like what Solaris' Live Upgrade (http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E19455-01/806-7933/index.html) does? In my past life as a Solaris sys-admin, I found this an extremely useful tool for upgrading and patching running systems, as well

Re: humble suggestion to Fedora developers

2013-01-28 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 01/27/2013 11:00 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 01/27/2013 01:44 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: I like your ideas J.Z(LoL!) like I know of a few distros that have their long term support versions that are stable, and the packages and apps have all been tested and have been proven to work. Then

WTH is ntlvm2

2013-01-28 Thread JOYCE POLZIN
Autofs in F18 won't work without it. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away:

Re: f18: compiz, initial package for f18, and Gnome3

2013-01-28 Thread Zoltan Hoppar
In fedora 18 the compiz has been gone - it's obsolete. Zoltan 2013/1/28 Dario Lesca d.le...@solinos.it: Is possible use the initial package for f18 compiz with Gnome 3? Or it is only for other D.E.? Thanks -- Dario Lesca - sip:da...@solinos.it (Inviato dal mio Linux Fedora18+Gnome3)

Re: WTH is ntlvm2

2013-01-28 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 28.01.2013 17:49, schrieb JOYCE POLZIN: Autofs in F18 won't work without it maybe a little more input would help what is your error message? where is a link to what exactly you refer? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list

Re: WTH is ntlvm2

2013-01-28 Thread JOYCE POLZIN
/var/log/messages: [13655.890568] CIFS VFS: default security mechanism requested. The default security mechanism will be upgraded from ntlm to ntlmv2 in kernel release 3.3 Jan 28 12:01:08 voyager kernel: [13655.917402] Status code returned 0xc06d NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE Jan 28 12:01:08

Re: WTH is ntlvm2

2013-01-28 Thread Bryn M. Reeves
On 01/28/2013 04:49 PM, JOYCE POLZIN wrote: Autofs in F18 won't work without it. Presumably you meant NTLMv2 (NT LAN Manager Version 2, aka NTLM2). It's an ancient Microsoft authentication protocol used with Windows file and print sharing and other Windows network services. Sharing more

Re: XFCE Weather app can't find me - FC18

2013-01-28 Thread Bill Davidsen
poma wrote: On 01/27/2013 05:54 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: poma wrote: On 01/27/2013 06:00 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote: I think I have the extra apps loaded for xfce, but the weather app searching for something near Schenectady NY just says Searching and does nothing visible. FC17 found a station

Re: rsync (ssh) authorisation weirdness on F18

2013-01-28 Thread Joe Zeff
On 01/28/2013 01:36 AM, Gordon Messmer wrote: Don't do that. I see something like that frequently given as advice for generating a policy, but it'll only work if rsync is the only thing that's being denied (or something else in an rsync context). From your original email, you're probably

{Q}Stardict

2013-01-28 Thread Fedora User
A week ago these worked in a KDE plasma applet. Now they return no results. Does anyone know how to fix? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines:

Re: WTH is ntlvm2

2013-01-28 Thread JOYCE POLZIN
- Original Message - Am 28.01.2013 17:49, schrieb JOYCE POLZIN: Autofs in F18 won't work without it maybe a little more input would help what is your error message? where is a link to what exactly you refer? /etc/auto.cifs snip tpolzin

Re: rsync (ssh) authorisation weirdness on F18

2013-01-28 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/28/2013 01:42 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 01/28/2013 01:36 AM, Gordon Messmer wrote: Don't do that. I see something like that frequently given as advice for generating a policy, but it'll only work if rsync is the only thing that's being

Re: XFCE Weather app can't find me - FC18

2013-01-28 Thread Joe Zeff
On 01/28/2013 10:20 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote: I actually copied the fc17 config, called weather-17.rc, to the fc18 config, called weather-11.rc, and that resulted in a functional weather applet. I take that back, an applet which gives me what I want. Another user entering Boston got Searching and

Re: XFCE Weather app can't find me - FC18

2013-01-28 Thread Bill Davidsen
Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: On 01/27/2013 06:58 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 01/27/2013 03:17 PM, poma wrote: Put one of these three in ~/.config/xfce4/panel/weather-*.rc: $ xfce4-panel -q mousepad ~/.config/xfce4/panel/weather-*.rc xfce4-panel Use Alt-Tab ;) I live in Camarillo, CA. I just

Re: XFCE Weather app can't find me - FC18

2013-01-28 Thread Bill Davidsen
Joe Zeff wrote: On 01/28/2013 10:20 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote: I actually copied the fc17 config, called weather-17.rc, to the fc18 config, called weather-11.rc, and that resulted in a functional weather applet. I take that back, an applet which gives me what I want. Another user entering Boston

Re: after cinnamon installation, each gnome3 session will start nemo instead of nautilus

2013-01-28 Thread Lailah
El dom, 27-01-2013 a las 18:14 +0100, Joachim Backes escribió: Dear F18 users, my standard desktop is gnome3/Nautilus. Now, I installed for curiosity the cinnamon desktop. After logging out and re-logging in into a gnome3 session, nemo is started instead of nautilus. My question: is this

Re: humble suggestion to Fedora developers

2013-01-28 Thread Lailah
El vie, 25-01-2013 a las 22:40 +0100, Frantisek Hanzlik escribió: Joe Zeff wrote: On 01/25/2013 12:46 PM, James Freer wrote: LOL - good reply! I must admit i do get fed up with the twin names. In the Precise version... it was very much IMprecise. Just too many bugs now to be worth using.

Re: Optimization Start Up of Fedora

2013-01-28 Thread Bill Davidsen
carachi diego wrote: But the encryption mechanism is included in SELinux?I don't think so... There are also some other mechanism to encrypt the HDD independently from the operating system and I think also much more secure... I made three points on fast boot, (1) encryption for security, (2) no

Re: How to set enforcing to 0?

2013-01-28 Thread Paul Smith
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Daniel J Walsh dwa...@redhat.com wrote: By running journalctl, I got the following: kernel: ata1.00 exception emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 action 0x0 kernel: ata1.00: BMDMA stat 0x24 kernel: ata1.00: failed command: READ DMA EXT ata1.00 is your first hard disk

Re: How to set enforcing to 0?

2013-01-28 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/28/2013 03:20 PM, Paul Smith wrote: On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Daniel J Walsh dwa...@redhat.com wrote: By running journalctl, I got the following: kernel: ata1.00 exception emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 action 0x0 kernel: ata1.00: BMDMA stat

Grub2/Grub2 Themes Usage Issues

2013-01-28 Thread Stephen Morris
Hi, I have activated the usage of the Starfield theme for grub2 in Fedora 17 and I am having issues with it. 1). Scrolling through the list of entries in the menu at boot time is horribly slow. Every time I scroll with the arrow keys the screen flashes black and it takes several

Re: How to set enforcing to 0?

2013-01-28 Thread Paul Smith
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 8:26 PM, Daniel J Walsh dwa...@redhat.com wrote: Boot your machine with enforcing=0 on the kernel line. If you still have the problem, then it is probably not SELinux. If it works, then I would try to relabel. Thanks, Daniel. I have meanwhile overcome the problem by

Re: How to set enforcing to 0?

2013-01-28 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/28/2013 03:40 PM, Paul Smith wrote: On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 8:26 PM, Daniel J Walsh dwa...@redhat.com wrote: Boot your machine with enforcing=0 on the kernel line. If you still have the problem, then it is probably not SELinux. If it works,

Re: How to set enforcing to 0?

2013-01-28 Thread Paul Smith
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 8:45 PM, Daniel J Walsh dwa...@redhat.com wrote: Boot your machine with enforcing=0 on the kernel line. If you still have the problem, then it is probably not SELinux. If it works, then I would try to relabel. Thanks, Daniel. I have meanwhile overcome the problem by

F18: post-friday updates + ssh ports + iptables

2013-01-28 Thread Ranjan Maitra
So, I have a strange problem which I can't figure out. After Friday's updates, I was unable to ssh into the machine with a nonstandard port. I changed the port to the default and was able to get in. I was able to resolve this only after stopping and starting iptables service. Is this the norm?

Re: How to set enforcing to 0?

2013-01-28 Thread Wolfgang S. Rupprecht
Daniel J Walsh dwa...@redhat.com writes: touch /.autorelabel; reboot Will cause a relabel at boot, although not necessary now. One thing that has always bothered me about the first restorecon -rv / run after a fresh install is how many files are relabeled because the restorecon database and

Re: How to change the label of the hard disk

2013-01-28 Thread Mike Wright
01/28/2013 12:54 PM, Paul Smith wrote: Dear All, How can one change the label of one's hard disk? man e2label -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines:

Re: How to change the label of the hard disk

2013-01-28 Thread g
On 01/28/2013 08:54 PM, Paul Smith wrote: Dear All, How can one change the label of one's hard disk? simple way to locate a command is; locate label|grep bin/ which on this system, shows; ]$ locate label|grep bin/ /sbin/dosfslabel /sbin/e2label /sbin/e4label /sbin/ntfslabel

Re: How to change the label of the hard disk

2013-01-28 Thread Paul Smith
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 9:33 PM, g gel...@bellsouth.net wrote: How can one change the label of one's hard disk? simple way to locate a command is; locate label|grep bin/ which on this system, shows; ]$ locate label|grep bin/ /sbin/dosfslabel /sbin/e2label /sbin/e4label

Error trying to install via BFO

2013-01-28 Thread John Picard
Attempting to install via BFO (boot.fedoraproject.org), I get the following output ... dracut-initqueue[310]: Warning: Could not boot. dracut-initqueue[310]: Warning: /dev/root does not exist Entering emergency mode. Exit the shell to continue. Type journalctl to view system logs. dracut:/#

Re: How to change the label of the hard disk

2013-01-28 Thread g
On 01/28/2013 10:00 PM, Paul Smith wrote: Thanks, Mike and G, for your very useful suggestions. you are very welcome. my suggestion is from the old saying; give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. teach him how to fish and you feed him for a life time. -- peace out. tc.hago, g

Re: How to change the label of the hard disk

2013-01-28 Thread Rick Stevens
On 01/28/2013 02:09 PM, g issued this missive: On 01/28/2013 10:00 PM, Paul Smith wrote: Thanks, Mike and G, for your very useful suggestions. you are very welcome. my suggestion is from the old saying; give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. teach him how to fish and you

Re: How to change the label of the hard disk

2013-01-28 Thread Joe Zeff
On 01/28/2013 02:09 PM, g wrote: my suggestion is from the old saying; give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. teach him how to fish and you feed him for a life time. Being a BOFH, I prefer one of two variations: Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach him how to fish

Re: How to change the label of the hard disk

2013-01-28 Thread Joe Zeff
On 01/28/2013 02:14 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: You can lead a horse to water, but if you can teach him to roll over and float on his back you've got something you can sell tickets for! Continuing the sillyness: You can lead a horticulture but you can't make her think. -- users mailing list

OT Web servers and ISP

2013-01-28 Thread Roger
I have run into a gotcha with the ISP which will not provide Rails 3 on a shared server. Can someone please enlighten me as to why not. What are the problems? Apologies for OT but google so far doesn't help. TIA Roger -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or

Re: Error trying to install via BFO

2013-01-28 Thread Phil Meyer
On 01/28/2013 03:02 PM, John Picard wrote: Attempting to install via BFO (boot.fedoraproject.org), I get the following output ... dracut-initqueue[310]: Warning: Could not boot. dracut-initqueue[310]: Warning: /dev/root does not exist Entering emergency mode. Exit the shell to continue. Type

Re: OT Web servers and ISP

2013-01-28 Thread Phil Dobbin
On 01/28/2013 10:35 PM, Roger wrote: I have run into a gotcha with the ISP which will not provide Rails 3 on a shared server. Can someone please enlighten me as to why not. What are the problems? Apologies for OT but google so far doesn't help. I had a similar situation I just started

iptables bug? (Was RE: F18: post-friday updates + ssh ports + iptables)

2013-01-28 Thread Ranjan Maitra
OK, I believe this is a bug (or a feature I can not fathom) I reboot the machine, and lose access to the ssh port. Restarting iptables fixes the problem. This is problematic because the machine can not be rebooted remotely to obtain access remotely. Is this a bug, or a new feature? What

Re: Holding down the power button when the systems freezes

2013-01-28 Thread Joe Zeff
On 01/28/2013 04:57 PM, Paul Smith wrote: Dear All, When the systems freezes, is it safe to hold down the power button to power off the machine? If not, what alternatives do you suggest? My laptop doesn't do that. My desktop does, and most of the time I have to use the reset button, but if

Re: Holding down the power button when the systems freezes

2013-01-28 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Paul Smith writes: Dear All, When the systems freezes, is it safe to hold down the power button to power off the machine? If not, what alternatives do you suggest? Thanks in advance, There are two consequences to a hard poweroff, like that: 1) The hard drive does an emergency park of the

Re: Holding down the power button when the systems freezes

2013-01-28 Thread g
On 01/29/2013 12:57 AM, Paul Smith wrote: Dear All, When the systems freezes, is it safe to hold down the power button to power off the machine? If not, what alternatives do you suggest? looking for more fish? (GBWG) if your system is freezing, put a heavy blanket around it to keep it

Re: Holding down the power button when the systems freezes

2013-01-28 Thread Joe Zeff
On 01/28/2013 05:31 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: When the machine freezes, try pressing Alt-SysRq-b to force a reboot, if the kernel is still alive, somewhere. This will still require a filesystem repair, but at least it'll save wear/tear on the hard drives. In an ext3/ext4 filesystem,

Re: Tool to compare directories

2013-01-28 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 03:34:54PM +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Mon, 2013-01-28 at 15:32 +0100, Suvayu Ali wrote: On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 06:16:16AM -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 11:49:29 +, Paul Smith phh...@gmail.com wrote: Dear All, Could

Re: Holding down the power button when the systems freezes

2013-01-28 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 1/28/2013 5:36 PM, g wrote: if your system is freezing, put a heavy blanket around it to keep it warm. Life would be so much easier if it was this easy ... Thanks, Paul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options:

Re: iptables bug? (Was RE: F18: post-friday updates + ssh ports + iptables)

2013-01-28 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 03:47:50PM -0800, Ranjan Maitra wrote: OK, I believe this is a bug (or a feature I can not fathom) I reboot the machine, and lose access to the ssh port. Restarting iptables fixes the problem. This is problematic because the machine can not be rebooted remotely

Re: iptables bug? (Was RE: F18: post-friday updates + ssh ports + iptables)

2013-01-28 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 03:01:30 +0100 Suvayu Ali fatkasuvayu +li...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 03:47:50PM -0800, Ranjan Maitra wrote: OK, I believe this is a bug (or a feature I can not fathom) I reboot the machine, and lose access to the ssh port. Restarting iptables

Re: Holding down the power button when the systems freezes

2013-01-28 Thread g
On 01/29/2013 01:50 AM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: On 1/28/2013 5:36 PM, g wrote: if your system is freezing, put a heavy blanket around it to keep it warm. Life would be so much easier if it was this easy ... more true than many realize. -- peace out. tc.hago, g . signature.asc

Re: iptables bug? (Was RE: F18: post-friday updates + ssh ports + iptables)

2013-01-28 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 08:23:11PM -0600, Ranjan Maitra wrote: On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 03:01:30 +0100 Suvayu Ali fatkasuvayu +li...@gmail.com wrote: I am not sure how to figure out what were in those updates. Is there a way? I am not even sure that this is an iptables issue, only that

telnetd mystery ....

2013-01-28 Thread Ed Greshko
First No need to bring up the ssh v.s. telnet stuff. Has anyone configured telnetd for use on F18? Running 64 bitbut this shouldn't make a difference. Anyway, I did the normal procedure. 1. yum install telnet-service 2. opened telnet port on the firewall (not that it

Re: iptables bug? (Was RE: F18: post-friday updates + ssh ports + iptables)

2013-01-28 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 04:00:05 +0100 Suvayu Ali fatkasuvayu +li...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 08:23:11PM -0600, Ranjan Maitra wrote: On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 03:01:30 +0100 Suvayu Ali fatkasuvayu +li...@gmail.com wrote: I am not sure how to figure out what were in those updates.

Re: Holding down the power button when the systems freezes

2013-01-28 Thread David G . Miller
Paul Smith phhs80 at gmail.com writes: When the systems freezes, is it safe to hold down the power button to power off the machine? If not, what alternatives do you suggest? Simple test: if CapsLock and/or NumLock and/or ScrollLock still work (keyboard light reflects change in state), you have a

Re: F18: post-friday updates + ssh ports + iptables

2013-01-28 Thread David G . Miller
Ranjan Maitra maitra.mbox.ignored at inbox.com writes: So, I have a strange problem which I can't figure out. After Friday's updates, I was unable to ssh into the machine with a nonstandard port. I changed the port to the default and was able to get in. I was able to resolve this only after

Re: McAfee Endpoint Encryption installed, now I can't boot Fedora

2013-01-28 Thread Jatin K
On Monday 28 January 2013 08:54 PM, Richard Shaw wrote: Google didn't turn up anything relevant for my particular situation... I was dual booting my work laptop with Windows XP and Fedora 17 w/ GRUB2. Last week my laptop got McAfee Endpoint Encryption forced upon it. Interestingly enough I can

Re: after cinnamon installation, each gnome3 session will start nemo instead of nautilus

2013-01-28 Thread Joachim Backes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/28/2013 12:12 AM, Lailah wrote: El dom, 27-01-2013 a las 18:14 +0100, Joachim Backes escribi￳: Dear F18 users, my standard desktop is gnome3/Nautilus. Now, I installed for curiosity the cinnamon desktop. After logging out and re-logging