Re: telnetd mystery ....

2013-01-29 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/30/2013 03:17 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote: > On 01/29/2013 10:44 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> I just installed the f17 rpm on the f18 system and it fails in the >> same way. > > I never asked... Does telnetd work on F17 or would we have to go back further > to find a working version? Yes, it works

Re: telnetd mystery ....

2013-01-29 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 01/29/2013 10:44 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: I just installed the f17 rpm on the f18 system and it fails in the same way. I never asked... Does telnetd work on F17 or would we have to go back further to find a working version? Sorry, not looking for a replacement. You don't need to apologize

Re: telnetd mystery ....

2013-01-29 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/30/2013 02:42 PM, David G. Miller wrote: > Ed Greshko greshko.com> writes: > >> On 01/29/2013 10:19 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: >>> On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 11:46:58AM +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > Has anyone configured telnetd for use on F18? > >>> I just did, and I didn't add -D, but I di

Re: telnetd mystery ....

2013-01-29 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/30/2013 01:54 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote: > On 01/28/2013 07:46 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> Has anyone configured telnetd for use on F18? Running 64 bitbut >> this shouldn't make a difference. > > Actually, it might. I ran strace on the telnetd process, which should mostly > proxy data betw

Re: telnetd mystery ....

2013-01-29 Thread David G . Miller
Ed Greshko greshko.com> writes: > > On 01/29/2013 10:19 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 11:46:58AM +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > >> Has anyone configured telnetd for use on F18? > > I just did, and I didn't add -D, but I did change "disabled = yes" to "no" > > in the telnet

Re: telnetd mystery ....

2013-01-29 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 01/28/2013 07:46 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: Has anyone configured telnetd for use on F18? Running 64 bitbut this shouldn't make a difference. Actually, it might. I ran strace on the telnetd process, which should mostly proxy data between a child process (login, at that point) and the sock

Re: rant: cifs utterly screwed in fedora 18

2013-01-29 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 01/29/2013 03:57 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: Just as I suspected from the last time I tried to avoid SHARE security, this still triggers credentials prompts in Windows XP (though it doesn't much care what credentials you provide). You didn't say anything about XP. Not that I have an XP machine t

Re: rsync (ssh) authorisation weirdness on F18

2013-01-29 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 01/28/2013 10:42 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: And, of course, it's often what's needed. Unless you know that one specific process is affected by the policy, it's pretty much always better to use 'tail -f' to capture all of the AVCs starting at the time that you begin testing in permissive mode than

Re: How to change the label of the hard disk

2013-01-29 Thread Steve Underwood
On 01/29/2013 06:09 AM, g wrote: On 01/28/2013 10:00 PM, Paul Smith wrote: <> Thanks, Mike and G, for your very useful suggestions. you are very welcome. my suggestion is from the old saying; give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. teach him how to fish and you feed him for a lif

Re: Lack of things in Gimp

2013-01-29 Thread jonc
On 01/29/2013 07:48 PM, Claude Jones wrote: On 01/29/2013 01:54 PM, Lailah wrote: see if this helps http://registry.gimp.org/ -- Claude Jones Brunswick, MD, USA No, is not helpful. The newest scripts it has are from 2009. I want it running in 2.8. This is the actual version on Fedora 18.

Re: telnetd mystery ....

2013-01-29 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/30/2013 10:13 AM, Richard Sewill wrote: > My question may be a red herring, but could there be anything in > your .bash_profile, .bashrc, ... etc files behaving differently between F17 > and F18, > causing problems during telnet login? Very doubtful for 3 reasons. 1. the user account

Re: telnetd mystery ....

2013-01-29 Thread jdow
On 2013/01/29 18:07, Ed Greshko wrote: On 01/30/2013 10:00 AM, jdow wrote: On 2013/01/29 17:49, Ed Greshko wrote: On 01/30/2013 09:37 AM, jdow wrote: On 2013/01/29 06:23, Ed Greshko wrote: On 01/29/2013 10:19 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 11:46:58AM +0800, Ed Greshko wro

Re: telnetd mystery ....

2013-01-29 Thread Richard Sewill
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 7:49 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 01/30/2013 09:37 AM, jdow wrote: > > > > On 2013/01/29 06:23, Ed Greshko wrote: > >> On 01/29/2013 10:19 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > >>> On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 11:46:58AM +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > First No need to bring up the ss

Re: telnetd mystery ....

2013-01-29 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/30/2013 10:00 AM, jdow wrote: > On 2013/01/29 17:49, Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 01/30/2013 09:37 AM, jdow wrote: >>> >>> On 2013/01/29 06:23, Ed Greshko wrote: On 01/29/2013 10:19 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 11:46:58AM +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: >> First N

Re: telnetd mystery ....

2013-01-29 Thread jdow
On 2013/01/29 17:49, Ed Greshko wrote: On 01/30/2013 09:37 AM, jdow wrote: On 2013/01/29 06:23, Ed Greshko wrote: On 01/29/2013 10:19 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 11:46:58AM +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: First No need to bring up the ssh v.s. telnet stuff. Has anyone

Re: Holding down the power button when the systems freezes

2013-01-29 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Tim writes: Hmm, I'll have to have a listen out for what my laptop does. I can well imagine laptops having an emergency shutoff, seeing as some of them use motion detectors to protect drives against bangs. But my external drives seem to make the same loudish bang when they put themselves to sl

Re: F18 autofs issue

2013-01-29 Thread Joe Zeff
On 01/29/2013 04:41 PM, Terry Polzin wrote: DING DING DING folks we have a winner! Great! One thing I learned doing tech support: it's hard to solve things like this until you know just what's going wrong. That's why I often ask questions like this because I'm not sure just what the central

Re: telnetd mystery ....

2013-01-29 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/30/2013 09:37 AM, jdow wrote: > > On 2013/01/29 06:23, Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 01/29/2013 10:19 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: >>> On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 11:46:58AM +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: First No need to bring up the ssh v.s. telnet stuff. Has anyone configured telnetd for u

Re: telnetd mystery ....

2013-01-29 Thread jdow
On 2013/01/29 06:23, Ed Greshko wrote: On 01/29/2013 10:19 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 11:46:58AM +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: First No need to bring up the ssh v.s. telnet stuff. Has anyone configured telnetd for use on F18? Running 64 bitbut this shouldn't ma

Re: Lack of things in Gimp

2013-01-29 Thread Claude Jones
On 01/29/2013 01:54 PM, Lailah wrote: see if this helps http://registry.gimp.org/ -- Claude Jones Brunswick, MD, USA No, is not helpful. The newest scripts it has are from 2009. I want it running in 2.8. This is the actual version on Fedora 18. I'm not going to take a lot of time on this,

Re: F18 autofs issue

2013-01-29 Thread Terry Polzin
On Tue, 2013-01-29 at 13:49 -0800, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 01/29/2013 01:37 PM, JOYCE POLZIN wrote: > > If root were to mount it with the mount command it's fine root nor a > > mortal user can mount via cd command expecting autofs to make the mount. > > OK, thanx. Not being familiar with autofs, I d

Re: rant: cifs utterly screwed in fedora 18

2013-01-29 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 27 Jan 2013 19:48:57 -0800 Gordon Messmer wrote: > ... > map to guest = Bad User > ... Just as I suspected from the last time I tried to avoid SHARE security, this still triggers credentials prompts in Windows XP (though it doesn't much care what credentials you provide). It seems

Re: How to change the label of the hard disk

2013-01-29 Thread Joe Zeff
On 01/29/2013 02:51 PM, Lailah wrote: This is not funny. X-( Why is "her"? Why not "him"? I've taken this off-list for several reasons. If you must reply, please do the same as I don't think that this discussion is appropriate for the list. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject

Re: How to change the label of the hard disk

2013-01-29 Thread Lailah
El lun, 28-01-2013 a las 14:21 -0800, Joe Zeff escribió: > On 01/28/2013 02:14 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: > > > > "You can lead a horse to water, but if you can teach him to roll over > > and float on his back you've got something you can sell tickets for!" > > Continuing the sillyness: > > You can

Re: Optimization Start Up of Fedora

2013-01-29 Thread carachi diego
Yes the SSD is a possible solution to reduce the boot time, but I am in doubt for the writng circle of the SSD because it is very few than a magnetic HDD... What about load the kernel and operating system on RAM? I see that it is possible load with grub all in memory and if I understand well after

Re: F18 autofs issue

2013-01-29 Thread Joe Zeff
On 01/29/2013 01:37 PM, JOYCE POLZIN wrote: If root were to mount it with the mount command it's fine root nor a mortal user can mount via cd command expecting autofs to make the mount. OK, thanx. Not being familiar with autofs, I didn't realize what you were expecting. So the issue isn't be

Re: F18 autofs issue

2013-01-29 Thread JOYCE POLZIN
- Original Message - On 01/29/2013 12:59 PM, JOYCE POLZIN wrote: > > Root can manually mount the directory ie mount -t cifs -o > user=xxx,password=yyy [ UNC] [TARGET] > > A mortal user cannot cd, nor can root same results in /var/log/messages > depending upon value of sec in /etc/au

Re: F18 autofs issue

2013-01-29 Thread Joe Zeff
On 01/29/2013 12:59 PM, JOYCE POLZIN wrote: Root can manually mount the directory ie mount -t cifs -o user=xxx,password=yyy [ UNC] [TARGET] A mortal user cannot cd, nor can root same results in /var/log/messages depending upon value of sec in /etc/auto.cifs. Yes, auto.cifs is mentioned in auto

Re: telnetd mystery ....

2013-01-29 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/30/2013 02:56 AM, James Hogarth wrote: > > . > > > > FWIW, there are times where telnet is the only viable option. We have an > > internal system running a real old version of Unix used for X.400/X.25 > > communication for which ssh is not an option. > > > > But that would be the unix serv

Re: F18 autofs issue

2013-01-29 Thread JOYCE POLZIN
- Original Message - On 01/29/2013 12:41 PM, JOYCE POLZIN wrote: > > In either case, the cd command itself returns no such file or directory. > Also interestingly enough root can mount this directory without an issue > with the correct credentials. Just to be clear, is root mounting

Re: HelluvaProblem

2013-01-29 Thread Jared K. Smith
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 11:24 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote: >> I have the latest updates of Fedora 18 >> Today I installed http, php, pear, mysql, etc installed drupal 7.19 All >> went >> well. >> >> Golly I've done this over and over for years and not experience this >> problem. I ran into this pr

Re: F18 autofs issue

2013-01-29 Thread Joe Zeff
On 01/29/2013 12:41 PM, JOYCE POLZIN wrote: In either case, the cd command itself returns no such file or directory. Also interestingly enough root can mount this directory without an issue with the correct credentials. Just to be clear, is root mounting this directory (as you write here) or

F18 autofs issue

2013-01-29 Thread JOYCE POLZIN
snip of /etc/auto.cifs (edited for security) tpolzin -fstype=cifs,rw,noperm,user=\tpolzin,pass=***,sec=ntlmv2 ://** Snip of /var/log/messages after trying to cd to /cifs/tpolzin Jan 29 13:57:12 voyager kernel: [22565.810964] Status code returned 0xc000

Re: Lack of things in Gimp

2013-01-29 Thread Germán A. Racca
On 01/29/2013 05:00 PM, Lailah wrote: El mar, 29-01-2013 a las 10:52 -0500, Mike Williams escribió: > On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 09:02:34 -0200, > Lailah mailto:lailah...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> >> Hello everybody! >> >>I found that Gimp in Fedora has less functions that in other >>

Re: Lack of things in Gimp

2013-01-29 Thread Lailah
El mar, 29-01-2013 a las 08:08 -0600, Bruno Wolff III escribió: > On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 09:02:34 -0200, >Lailah wrote: > > > >Hello everybody! > > > >I found that Gimp in Fedora has less functions that in other > >distributions (like Fuduntu or Ubuntu). In example, I can find

Re: Lack of things in Gimp

2013-01-29 Thread Lailah
El mar, 29-01-2013 a las 10:51 -0500, Claude Jones escribió: > On 1/29/2013 6:02 AM, Lailah wrote: > > > > Hello everybody! > > > > I found that Gimp in Fedora has less functions that in > > other distributions (like Fuduntu or Ubuntu). In example, I can find > > video and animation

Re: Lack of things in Gimp

2013-01-29 Thread Lailah
El mar, 29-01-2013 a las 10:52 -0500, Mike Williams escribió: > > On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 09:02:34 -0200, > > Lailah wrote: > >> > >> > >> Hello everybody! > >> > >>I found that Gimp in Fedora has less functions that in other > >> distributions (like Fuduntu or Ubuntu). In example

Re: telnetd mystery ....

2013-01-29 Thread James Hogarth
. > > FWIW, there are times where telnet is the only viable option. We have an internal system running a real old version of Unix used for X.400/X.25 communication for which ssh is not an option. > But that would be the unix server running telnet and not the Linux system as in this case Ther

Re: Lack of things in Gimp

2013-01-29 Thread Bryn M. Reeves
On 01/29/2013 04:45 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: If the Fedora team saw this as a problem, they would arrange to have rpmfusion keep drivers available for the obsolete kernels in the media as well as the current kernels you get with upgrade. At least for Broadcom and Ralink (net) and Radeon and Nvidi

Re: Lack of things in Gimp

2013-01-29 Thread Bill Davidsen
Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 09:02:34 -0200, Lailah wrote: Hello everybody! I found that Gimp in Fedora has less functions that in other distributions (like Fuduntu or Ubuntu). In example, I can find video and animation edition, and a lot of scripts. Why is

Re: [389-users] setup-ds-admin.pl failure

2013-01-29 Thread Jovan.VUKOTIC
I have attempted to install1.2.10.7 version of the server: % pkgutil -c CSW389-ds-base package installed catalog CSW389-ds-base1.2.10.7,REV=2012.05.02 SAME On Solaris, configuration directory for opencsw packages are at /etc/opt/csw In particular, fo

Re: HelluvaProblem

2013-01-29 Thread Bill Davidsen
Roger wrote: I have the latest updates of Fedora 18 Today I installed http, php, pear, mysql, etc installed drupal 7.19 All went well. Golly I've done this over and over for years and not experience this problem. Why a segmentation fault? /var/log/httpd/access_log shows access to Drupal

Re: warning for rawhide users--RPM DB-eating bug

2013-01-29 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 09:48:43 -0600 Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 08:35:44 -0700, >Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > > >No, that push was killed before it went out. > > Are we going to get a make up push? (I know it isn't a big deal to > wait until tomorrow, but I figured I'd ask.)

Re: Lack of things in Gimp

2013-01-29 Thread Mike Williams
> On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 09:02:34 -0200, > Lailah wrote: >> >> >> Hello everybody! >> >>I found that Gimp in Fedora has less functions that in other >> distributions (like Fuduntu or Ubuntu). In example, I can find video >> and animation edition, and a lot of scripts. >> >> Why is

Re: Lack of things in Gimp

2013-01-29 Thread Claude Jones
On 1/29/2013 6:02 AM, Lailah wrote: Hello everybody! I found that Gimp in Fedora has less functions that in other distributions (like Fuduntu or Ubuntu). In example, I can find video and animation edition, and a lot of scripts. Why is this happening? How can I solve it? /Tha

Re: warning for rawhide users--RPM DB-eating bug

2013-01-29 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 08:35:44 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: No, that push was killed before it went out. Are we going to get a make up push? (I know it isn't a big deal to wait until tomorrow, but I figured I'd ask.) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or cha

Re: WIFI broken after kernel RPM update

2013-01-29 Thread Zoltan Hoppar
Welcome, Gary. Similar way works for Virtualbox, I never use the packaged one - if you need that too, I can share the procedure for it. Cheers, Zoltan 2013/1/29 Gary Stainburn : > On Tuesday 29 January 2013 14:52:05 Zoltan Hoppar wrote: >> Yes, I have. >> >> In my HP Probook 4515s have broadcom

Re: WIFI broken after kernel RPM update

2013-01-29 Thread Gary Stainburn
On Tuesday 29 January 2013 14:52:05 Zoltan Hoppar wrote: > Yes, I have. > > In my HP Probook 4515s have broadcom either. > Follow my steps, and you never again loose your wifi after a kernel update. > > 1. http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43?highlight=%28broadcom%29 > 2. Search for "If yo

Re: warning for rawhide users--RPM DB-eating bug

2013-01-29 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 15:29:24 + Frank Murphy wrote: > On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 10:27:06 -0500 > fred smith wrote: > > > Just saw this on lwn.net. If any of you are rawhide users, read > > this before doing any yum (or other) updates! > > > > https://lwn.net/Articles/534909/ > > > > > > It's m

Re: How to change the label of the hard disk

2013-01-29 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Tue, 29 Jan 2013, Junk wrote: And for a platitude I present "If you were to walk a mile in another mans shoes, you'd be a mile away and have his shoes." whether they were worth having or not. -- Michael henne...@web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu Iluvatar is the better part of Valar. -- users mailin

Re: warning for rawhide users--RPM DB-eating bug

2013-01-29 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 10:27:06 -0500 fred smith wrote: > Just saw this on lwn.net. If any of you are rawhide users, read > this before doing any yum (or other) updates! > > https://lwn.net/Articles/534909/ > > It's moot Rawhide push was pulled hours ago. Updated version in koji already. -- Re

warning for rawhide users--RPM DB-eating bug

2013-01-29 Thread fred smith
Just saw this on lwn.net. If any of you are rawhide users, read this before doing any yum (or other) updates! https://lwn.net/Articles/534909/ -- Fred Smith -- fre...@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us - But God demonstrates his own love for us in this:

Re: [389-users] setup-ds-admin.pl failure

2013-01-29 Thread Rich Megginson
On 01/29/2013 08:00 AM, jovan.vuko...@sungard.com wrote: Hi,   It is not the first instance of 389DS I have attempted to install on Solaris, but the first one that failed and the reason is  

f18+gnome3: mail-notification problem

2013-01-29 Thread Dario Lesca
When I run mail-notification and add some Evolution folder to monitoring, the application crash with this error: > [lesca@dodo ~]$ mail-notification > > (mail-notification:24093): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_ref: assertion > `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed > > (mail-notification:24093): G

[389-users] setup-ds-admin.pl failure

2013-01-29 Thread Jovan.VUKOTIC
Hi, It is not the first instance of 389DS I have attempted to install on Solaris, but the first one that failed and the reason is Could not open the script template file '//.dirsrv/dirsrv-instance_name I was running the script as root, but have never read or heard of any template file required

Re: Holding down the power button when the systems freezes

2013-01-29 Thread David G . Miller
Max Pyziur brama.com> writes: > > On Tue, 29 Jan 2013, Paul Smith wrote: > > > On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 4:24 AM, David G. Miller davenjudy.org> wrote: > >>> When the systems freezes, is it safe to hold down the power button to > >>> power off the machine? If not, what alternatives do you sugges

Re: WIFI broken after kernel RPM update

2013-01-29 Thread Zoltan Hoppar
Yes, I have. In my HP Probook 4515s have broadcom either. Follow my steps, and you never again loose your wifi after a kernel update. 1. http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43?highlight=%28broadcom%29 2. Search for "If you are using the b43 driver from 3.2 kernel or newer:" text and execut

Re: Holding down the power button when the systems freezes

2013-01-29 Thread Robert Nichols
On 01/29/2013 03:28 AM, Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 28 January 2013, Sam Varshavchik sent: 1) The hard drive does an emergency park of the R/W head. That does incur some cost, in terms of wear and tear. Are there any consumer hard drives that still do a controlled park, rather than just

Re: telnetd mystery ....

2013-01-29 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/29/2013 10:22 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 22:19:24 +0800, > Ed Greshko wrote: >> >> Thank you for ignoring the very first sentence and reciting the obvious. > > Sorry about that. I saw two threads about it and didn't read the second one > very carefully. OK.

Re: telnetd mystery ....

2013-01-29 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/29/2013 10:23 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 01/29/2013 10:19 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: >> On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 11:46:58AM +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: >>> First No need to bring up the ssh v.s. telnet stuff. >>> Has anyone configured telnetd for use on F18? Running 64 bitbut this >

Re: WIFI broken after kernel RPM update

2013-01-29 Thread Gary Stainburn
On Wednesday 23 January 2013 14:16:19 Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 09:15:46 +, > >Gary Stainburn wrote: > >The kernel that doesn't work is > >3.6.11-5.fc17.x86_64 > > > >The kernel that does work is > >3.6.11-1.fc17.x86_64 > > 3.7.4-101.fc17 has been built for f17. You

Re: telnetd mystery ....

2013-01-29 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/29/2013 10:19 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 11:46:58AM +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: >> First No need to bring up the ssh v.s. telnet stuff. >> Has anyone configured telnetd for use on F18? Running 64 bitbut this >> shouldn't make a difference. Anyway, I did t

Re: telnetd mystery ....

2013-01-29 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 22:19:24 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: Thank you for ignoring the very first sentence and reciting the obvious. Sorry about that. I saw two threads about it and didn't read the second one very carefully. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe

Re: telnetd mystery ....

2013-01-29 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/29/2013 09:53 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 11:46:58 +0800, > Ed Greshko wrote: >> First No need to bring up the ssh v.s. telnet stuff. >> >> Has anyone configured telnetd for use on F18? Running 64 bitbut this >> shouldn't make a difference. Anyway,

Re: telnetd mystery ....

2013-01-29 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 11:46:58AM +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > First No need to bring up the ssh v.s. telnet stuff. > Has anyone configured telnetd for use on F18? Running 64 bitbut this > shouldn't make a difference. Anyway, I did the normal procedure. I just did, and I didn't

Re: Lack of things in Gimp

2013-01-29 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 09:02:34 -0200, Lailah wrote: Hello everybody! I found that Gimp in Fedora has less functions that in other distributions (like Fuduntu or Ubuntu). In example, I can find video and animation edition, and a lot of scripts. Why is this happening? How can

Re: telnetd mystery ....

2013-01-29 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 11:46:58 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: First No need to bring up the ssh v.s. telnet stuff. Has anyone configured telnetd for use on F18? Running 64 bitbut this shouldn't make a difference. Anyway, I did the normal procedure. Most people aren't going t

Re: How to do backups to an external disk inside emergency mode

2013-01-29 Thread Tim
Tim: > > That's really not a good way to gauge it. Some time ago I swore of > > Western Digital drives, after having several drives die within a couple > > of years. Ed Greshko: > And then there are folks such has myself who have nearly swore off > Seagate drives for similar short life episodes b

Re: Random Kernel Panics in Fedora 18 since 3.7.2-204 Why?

2013-01-29 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 29.01.2013, Manuel Escudero wrote: > Can Anyone help me with this problem? > https://ask.fedoraproject.org/question/3675/random-kernel-panics-in-fedora-18-since-372-204 Can you try a -stable kernel from kernel.org? I've run all versions up to latest 3.7.5 and don't have this problem. -- use

Re: Holding down the power button when the systems freezes

2013-01-29 Thread Tim
Tim: >> Are there any consumer hard drives that still do a controlled park, >> rather than just get switched off? Sam Varshavchik: > On my laptop with a ~4 year old hard drive, there's quite an audible > difference between a forcible power-off, with a clunk, and an orderly > shutdown that turn

Re: Holding down the power button when the systems freezes

2013-01-29 Thread Max Pyziur
On Tue, 29 Jan 2013, Paul Smith wrote: On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 4:24 AM, David G. Miller wrote: When the systems freezes, is it safe to hold down the power button to power off the machine? If not, what alternatives do you suggest? Simple test: if CapsLock and/or NumLock and/or ScrollLock stil

Lack of things in Gimp

2013-01-29 Thread Lailah
Hello everybody! I found that Gimp in Fedora has less functions that in other distributions (like Fuduntu or Ubuntu). In example, I can find video and animation edition, and a lot of scripts. Why is this happening? How can I solve it? Thank you very much! Lailah signature.asc

Re: F18: httpd configuration

2013-01-29 Thread antonio montagnani
Sam Varshavchik ha scritto / said the followingil giorno/on 29/01/2013 13:01: antonio montagnani writes: I am trying to debug why gnome-user-share is not working on my updated F18 machines (not showing shared foldersd)so I checked the configuration also Apache by issuing the command htt

Re: F18: httpd configuration

2013-01-29 Thread Sam Varshavchik
antonio montagnani writes: I am trying to debug why gnome-user-share is not working on my updated F18 machines (not showing shared foldersd)so I checked the configuration also Apache by issuing the command httpd -t and I got: $ httpd -t AH00558: httpd: Could not reliably determine the s

Re: Holding down the power button when the systems freezes

2013-01-29 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Tim writes: Allegedly, on or about 28 January 2013, Sam Varshavchik sent: > 1) The hard drive does an emergency park of the R/W head. That does > incur some cost, in terms of wear and tear. Are there any consumer hard drives that still do a controlled park, rather than just get switched off?

Re: How to do backups to an external disk inside emergency mode

2013-01-29 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/29/2013 05:50 PM, Tim wrote: > That's really not a good way to gauge it. Some time ago I swore of > Western Digital drives, after having several drives die within a couple > of years. And then there are folks such has myself who have nearly swore off Seagate drives for similar short life e

Re: Holding down the power button when the systems freezes

2013-01-29 Thread Paul Smith
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 4:24 AM, David G. Miller wrote: >> When the systems freezes, is it safe to hold down the power button to >> power off the machine? If not, what alternatives do you suggest? > > Simple test: if CapsLock and/or NumLock and/or ScrollLock still work (keyboard > light reflects c

Re: HelluvaProblem

2013-01-29 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 22:02:24 +1100 Roger wrote: > I can browse the internet and can play youtube tutorials. So it seems to > be apache resetting something, but I do not know. I don't know if this is related, but apache changed the way permissions work in the config files. If you have old configs

Re: How to do backups to an external disk inside emergency mode

2013-01-29 Thread Paul Smith
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 9:50 AM, Tim wrote: > Allegedly, on or about 28 January 2013, Paul Smith sent: >> My computer is a branded one and only 2 years old -- so, it was hard >> to believe that its hard disk was dying or being corrupted. > > That's really not a good way to gauge it. Some time ago

HelluvaProblem

2013-01-29 Thread Roger
I have the latest updates of Fedora 18 Today I installed http, php, pear, mysql, etc installed drupal 7.19 All went well. Golly I've done this over and over for years and not experience this problem. When drupal install finished it went to the admin page, all good, but when I try to do a

Re: Random Kernel Panics in Fedora 18 since 3.7.2-204 Why?

2013-01-29 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 29.01.2013 11:54, schrieb Manuel Escudero: > Can Anyone help me with this problem? > > "Random Kernel Panics in Fedora 18 since 3.7.2-204 Why? - Ask Fedora" > > https://ask.fedoraproject.org/question/3675/random-kernel-panics-in-fedora-18-since-372-204 i do not see your exact hardware becau

Random Kernel Panics in Fedora 18 since 3.7.2-204 Why?

2013-01-29 Thread Manuel Escudero
Can Anyone help me with this problem? "Random Kernel Panics in Fedora 18 since 3.7.2-204 Why? - Ask Fedora" https://ask.fedoraproject.org/question/3675/random-kernel-panics-in-fedora-18-since-372-204 Thank You! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscri

Re: How to change the label of the hard disk

2013-01-29 Thread Junk
On 28 Jan 2013, at 21:33, g wrote: > > On 01/28/2013 08:54 PM, Paul Smith wrote: >> Dear All, >> >> How can one change the label of one's hard disk? > > simple way to locate a command is; > > locate label|grep bin/ > > which on this system, shows; > > ]$ locate label|grep bin/ > /sbin/d

Re: Holding down the power button when the systems freezes

2013-01-29 Thread Jorge Martínez López
2013/1/29 Sam Varshavchik : > > When the machine freezes, try pressing Alt-SysRq-b to force a reboot, if the > kernel is still alive, somewhere. This will still require a filesystem > repair, but at least it'll save wear/tear on the hard drives. > Even better is to use Alt + SysRq + REISUB (sequen

Re: How to do backups to an external disk inside emergency mode

2013-01-29 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 28 January 2013, Paul Smith sent: > My computer is a branded one and only 2 years old -- so, it was hard > to believe that its hard disk was dying or being corrupted. That's really not a good way to gauge it. Some time ago I swore of Western Digital drives, after having se

Re: How to change the label of the hard disk

2013-01-29 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 28 January 2013, g sent: > give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. > teach him how to fish and you feed him for a life time. But on *ix lists, isn't this the more usual approach: Light a man a fire, and warm him for the night. Light a man on fire, and warm him for

Re: Holding down the power button when the systems freezes

2013-01-29 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 28 January 2013, Sam Varshavchik sent: > 1) The hard drive does an emergency park of the R/W head. That does > incur some cost, in terms of wear and tear. Are there any consumer hard drives that still do a controlled park, rather than just get switched off? -- [tim@localho

Re: Tool to compare directories

2013-01-29 Thread Roberto Ragusa
On 01/28/2013 12:49 PM, Paul Smith wrote: > Dear All, > > Could you please advise me on a tool to compare two directories? That > is a tool able to identify the files of the first directory that are > missing in the second one? > > Thanks in advance, meld. it is a graphical file diffing utility,

F18: httpd configuration

2013-01-29 Thread antonio montagnani
I am trying to debug why gnome-user-share is not working on my updated F18 machines (not showing shared foldersd)so I checked the configuration also Apache by issuing the command httpd -t and I got: $ httpd -t AH00558: httpd: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain