Re: update from 17 to 18 failed

2013-06-11 Thread lee
BTW, for some reason I don't seem to get your posts from the list. It could be some sort of dupe checking gnus does on my side, but I thought I should mention it just in case. Reindl Harald writes: > Am 12.06.2013 00:41, schrieb lee: >> For example, I know for sure that I never needed or wante

Re: update from 17 to 18 failed

2013-06-11 Thread lee
Joe Zeff writes: > On 06/11/2013 03:41 PM, lee wrote: >> + There doesn't seem to be anything like aptitude Debian has that lets >> you view what packages there are, what is installed, etc.. I know >> there's some GUI gnome tool for that --- which, unfortunately, >> doesn't seem to

emacs, 'backward-delete-char-untabify

2013-06-11 Thread lee
Hi, is it "normal" for emacs in Fedora to have 'backward-delete-char-untabify bound to the Del key? Or is this "normal" for emacs in general? This really doesn't give the expected behaviour, and IIRC it used to work as expected at some time. MOTT I use Ctrl-d, but when you press Del and the vis

Re: update from 17 to 18 failed

2013-06-11 Thread lee
Reindl Harald writes: > Am 11.06.2013 23:39, schrieb lee: >> One question that just occurred to me when looking at [1]: Do I need to >> do anything about grub? Yum says the version from Fedora 18 is >> installed, so I should be fine? > > the grub-configuration abd grub itself in the MBR is usall

Re: No HDMI audio with nvidia driver? - HDMI audio Nouveau OK!

2013-06-11 Thread poma
… > $ pactl list sinks | grep 'Sink\|Mute' > Sink #0 > Mute: yes > > $ pactl set-sink-mute 0 0 > > $ pactl list sinks | grep 'Sink\|Mute' > Sink #0 > Mute: no > > man 1 pactl … > Besides HDMI audio with the assistance of the 'nouveau.ko' *do* work. To conclude, http://goo.gl/ETNFL

Re: username is not in sudoers folder

2013-06-11 Thread Doug
On 06/11/2013 09:00 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 06/11/2013 05:29 PM, Tim wrote: Agreed. However, it can be argued that if you know enough to do that, you should also know enough to be careful with rm. As root, unless I'm deleting exactly one file, I use ls first to see exactly what I'm going to d

Re: username is not in sudoers folder

2013-06-11 Thread Joe Zeff
On 06/11/2013 05:31 PM, Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 11 June 2013, Matthew Miller sent: The prompt should be different for auth-as-self vs. auth-as-root. Sometimes a prompt is a rather vague you must authenticate type of phrase. Once it was pointed out to me, I looked, and it did ask f

Re: username is not in sudoers folder

2013-06-11 Thread Joe Zeff
On 06/11/2013 05:29 PM, Tim wrote: Never rely on that, not to mention that there are plenty of other commands that you can foolishly hose a system with. And you may not get that alias if you use one of the alternative shells. Agreed. However, it can be argued that if you know enough to do tha

Re: username is not in sudoers folder

2013-06-11 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 11 June 2013, Matthew Miller sent: > The prompt should be different for auth-as-self vs. auth-as-root. Sometimes a prompt is a rather vague you must authenticate type of phrase. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 3.8.13-100.fc17.x86_64 #1 SMP Mon May 13 13:36:17 UTC 2

Re: username is not in sudoers folder

2013-06-11 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 11 June 2013, Joe Zeff sent: > there's a reason that by default rm for root is aliased to rm -i. Never rely on that, not to mention that there are plenty of other commands that you can foolishly hose a system with. And you may not get that alias if you use one of the altern

Re: username is not in sudoers folder

2013-06-11 Thread Joe Zeff
On 06/11/2013 04:05 PM, Ian Malone wrote: - For both paying attention to the #/$ prompt and CWD display are helpful. That's what I check whenever I switch to a given terminal (also useful to know which machine you're logged into). Arguably there's more potential for confusion if you normally only

Re: update from 17 to 18 failed

2013-06-11 Thread Joe Zeff
On 06/11/2013 03:41 PM, lee wrote: + There doesn't seem to be anything like aptitude Debian has that lets you view what packages there are, what is installed, etc.. I know there's some GUI gnome tool for that --- which, unfortunately, doesn't seem to even come close. I'm not usin

Re: username is not in sudoers folder

2013-06-11 Thread Ian Malone
On 11 June 2013 20:03, Steven Stern wrote: > On 06/11/2013 01:24 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: >> On 06/11/2013 08:01 AM, Steven Stern wrote: >>> When you're done with whatever you did and you get distracted then >>> return to the computer, you'll probably forget you are logged in as >>> root. >> >> That's

Re: update from 17 to 18 failed

2013-06-11 Thread lee
Reindl Harald writes: > Am 11.06.2013 21:55, schrieb lee: It seems so --- the question is why aren't such packages removed by yum distro-sync? >>> >>> because it is not it's job to remove any package which is not >>> found in the repos because you may have installed it manually >>> >>>

Re: update from 17 to 18 failed

2013-06-11 Thread lee
Reindl Harald writes: > Am 11.06.2013 01:15, schrieb lee:>> that is why i do "rm -rf > /var/cache/yum/*" since years >>> before dist-upgrades and after *every time* i used >>> "--releasever=" wich a changed param >> >> Sounds good, but I don't know if that might remove files which are still >> n

Re: username is not in sudoers folder

2013-06-11 Thread Joe Zeff
On 06/11/2013 02:11 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: Here I think you're talking about the policykit dialogs in the desktop, right? The prompt should be different for auth-as-self vs. auth-as-root. Yes, it was. However, I'd been in the habit of putting root's password into those dialog boxes for so

Re: username is not in sudoers folder

2013-06-11 Thread Richard Vickery
On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 5:57 PM, Lingxian Guo wrote: > About installing the plugin of the Adobe Flash Player for Firefox,I know > the file of libflashplayer.so should be copied to > /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugin.By Terminal,after I input the command of sudo > cp libflashplayer.so /usr/lib64/mozilla/pl

Re: update from 17 to 18 failed

2013-06-11 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 11.06.2013 04:10, schrieb lee: > Reindl Harald writes: >>> | [root@yun etc]# yum list installed |grep fc17 >>> | NetworkManager-gtk.x86_64 1:0.9.6.4-3.fc17 installed >>> | [...] >>> ` >>> >>> For example, is this version of networkmanager-gtk in Fedora 18? >> >> there is no "net

Re: update from 17 to 18 failed

2013-06-11 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 11.06.2013 01:43, schrieb lee:> Reindl Harald writes: >> distro-sync is supposed to upgrade/downgrade all packages to the exact >> versions in the online-repos and in case you had updates-testing >> enabled as example the way to go to revert this in a predictable way > > Ok, let's try this:

Re: update from 17 to 18 failed

2013-06-11 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 11.06.2013 01:15, schrieb lee:>> that is why i do "rm -rf /var/cache/yum/*" since years >> before dist-upgrades and after *every time* i used >> "--releasever=" wich a changed param > > Sounds good, but I don't know if that might remove files which are still > needed... there are no files ne

Re: username is not in sudoers folder

2013-06-11 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 01:54:21PM -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > I tried putting myself into wheel once when I did a clean install. > I found it very off-putting, to say the least, to find that giving > the root password when prompted (or so I thought) didn't work > because the system was expecting *my*

Re: [389-users] ldbm errors when adding/modifying/deleting entries

2013-06-11 Thread Mahadevan, Venkat
> This error means that the server is not able to replace in the entry cache > and old entry by a new one. > It triggers the failure of the operation that is not committed although it > has a csn. > Do you have special tuning of the entry cache (nsslapd-cachesize, > nsslapd-cachememsize) ? Hi

Re: username is not in sudoers folder

2013-06-11 Thread Joe Zeff
On 06/11/2013 01:23 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: Or, on Fedora, add yourself to the "wheel" group (and log out and in again). You can do this with "User Manager" tool in gnome, or with gpasswd wheel -a username as root or via sudo from another user with sudo privs. I tried putting myself into

Re: Netflix in f18 x64 xfce

2013-06-11 Thread Steven Rosenberg
Same thing happens to me. I can run netflix-desktop from the Ubuntu PPA on this same hardware in Debian Wheezy, but my results match yours with the Fedora package. -- Steven Rosenberg http://stevenrosenberg.net/blog http://blogs.dailynews.com/click stevenhrosenb...@gmail.com ste...@stevenrosenberg

Re: username is not in sudoers folder

2013-06-11 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 09:10:34PM -0400, Doug wrote: > On 06/10/2013 08:57 PM, Lingxian Guo wrote: > >About installing the plugin of the Adobe Flash Player for Firefox,I know > >the file of libflashplayer.so should be copied to > >/usr/lib64/mozilla/plugin.By Terminal,after I input the command of

Re: update from 17 to 18 failed

2013-06-11 Thread lee
Reindl Harald writes: > Am 11.06.2013 04:10, schrieb lee: >> Reindl Harald writes: | [root@yun etc]# yum list installed |grep fc17 | NetworkManager-gtk.x86_64 1:0.9.6.4-3.fc17 installed | [...] ` For example, is this version of networkmanager-gtk in Fe

Re: username is not in sudoers folder

2013-06-11 Thread Rick Stevens
On 06/11/2013 12:32 PM, Joe Zeff issued this missive: On 06/11/2013 12:03 PM, Steven Stern wrote: On 06/11/2013 01:24 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 06/11/2013 08:01 AM, Steven Stern wrote: When you're done with whatever you did and you get distracted then return to the computer, you'll probably forge

Re: username is not in sudoers folder

2013-06-11 Thread Joe Zeff
On 06/11/2013 12:03 PM, Steven Stern wrote: On 06/11/2013 01:24 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 06/11/2013 08:01 AM, Steven Stern wrote: When you're done with whatever you did and you get distracted then return to the computer, you'll probably forget you are logged in as root. That's why you either l

Re: username is not in sudoers folder

2013-06-11 Thread Steven Stern
On 06/11/2013 01:24 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 06/11/2013 08:01 AM, Steven Stern wrote: >> When you're done with whatever you did and you get distracted then >> return to the computer, you'll probably forget you are logged in as >> root. > > That's why you either log out from root or close the term

Re: username is not in sudoers folder

2013-06-11 Thread Joe Zeff
On 06/11/2013 08:01 AM, Steven Stern wrote: When you're done with whatever you did and you get distracted then return to the computer, you'll probably forget you are logged in as root. That's why you either log out from root or close the terminal as soon as you're done doing root stuph. -- u

Re: username is not in sudoers folder

2013-06-11 Thread Joe Zeff
On 06/11/2013 06:31 AM, Tim wrote: Once the command finishes, your terminal is left with your unprivileged logon, so there's less chance of serious mistakes happening by accident (e.g. badly wildcarded "rm" commands), if you're going to keep that terminal open. If you only need to run one comma

Re: Net-install?

2013-06-11 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, 11 Jun 2013 09:41:42 +0200 poma wrote: > On 11.06.2013 06:10, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 03:54:54 +0200 > > poma wrote: > > > >> On 09.06.2013 00:46, Matthew Miller wrote: > … > >>> Well, you can use boot.fedoraproject.org -- download one of these > >>> and go. http://bo

Re: Mouse movement jerky after plugging in external monitor

2013-06-11 Thread Jack Craig
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 2:41 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > I have a Lenovo X230 (laptop with a small internal screen) and > a large external screen. > > When the external screen is not plugged in, mouse movements are > fine. > > When I plug in the external screen (I have the XFCE desktop sprea

Re: username is not in sudoers folder

2013-06-11 Thread Doug
On 06/11/2013 01:52 AM, Fred Erickson wrote: On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 21:10:34 -0400 ...snip You need to edit the sudoers file. You should find a copy that works and make yours look like that. (Hint: you need to add a line with your user name and the word ALL in it.) You can edit it with any

Re: username is not in sudoers folder

2013-06-11 Thread Steven Stern
On 06/11/2013 08:31 AM, Tim wrote: > Allegedly, on or about 10 June 2013, Joe Zeff sent: >> To me, sudo is a fine tool if you want to give access to a few admin >> tools to people who don't (and shouldn't) know the root password. >> However, I can't see the point of using it if you're the person wh

fedup upgrade to 18 broke my touchpad on DELL Vostro

2013-06-11 Thread Gary Stainburn
Hi folks. I followed the instructions as per http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedUp#How_Can_I_Upgrade_My_System_with_FedUp.3F and all seemed to go fine - no errors that I saw. However, having completed the upgrade the touchpad in my DELL Vostro has stopped working. It seems to view it as a PS/2

Re: username is not in sudoers folder

2013-06-11 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 10 June 2013, Joe Zeff sent: > To me, sudo is a fine tool if you want to give access to a few admin > tools to people who don't (and shouldn't) know the root password. > However, I can't see the point of using it if you're the person who > installed Linux and created the root

Re: username is not in sudoers folder

2013-06-11 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 11 June 2013, Lingxian Guo sent: > About installing the plugin of the Adobe Flash Player for Firefox,I > know the file of libflashplayer.so should be copied to > /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugin. That approach for installing the Flash player is about the worst way to manage it. Y

Mouse movement jerky after plugging in external monitor

2013-06-11 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
I have a Lenovo X230 (laptop with a small internal screen) and a large external screen. When the external screen is not plugged in, mouse movements are fine. When I plug in the external screen (I have the XFCE desktop spread over both internal and external), horizontal movements of the mouse bec

Re: Net-install?

2013-06-11 Thread poma
On 11.06.2013 06:10, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 03:54:54 +0200 > poma wrote: > >> On 09.06.2013 00:46, Matthew Miller wrote: … >>> Well, you can use boot.fedoraproject.org -- download one of these >>> and go. http://boot.fedoraproject.org/download >> >> 'bfo.iso' >> Install > Fedora