Re: LibreOfffice and its new UI

2013-07-28 Thread Mateusz Marzantowicz
On 29.07.2013 07:32, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 07/29/13 12:37, Isaac Cortés González wrote: >> Well, I'm having a problem trying to enable the new UI of LibreOffice >> 4.1, all this in F19+KDE; but for some reason I can't see it in any >> menuItem or any other menu or option; is this because of KDE or

Re: LibreOfffice and its new UI

2013-07-28 Thread Martin Skjöldebrand
On Sunday 28 July 2013 23.03.23 Isaac Cortés González wrote: > > I have not experienced this. > > > > Install libreoffice-kde to see if this helps. I am > > using that. > > I have it installed, that's not the problem. What is it supposed to look like? /Martin S -- users mailing list users@list

Re: LibreOfffice and its new UI

2013-07-28 Thread Ed Greshko
On 07/29/13 12:37, Isaac Cortés González wrote: > Well, I'm having a problem trying to enable the new UI of LibreOffice > 4.1, all this in F19+KDE; but for some reason I can't see it in any > menuItem or any other menu or option; is this because of KDE or is > there a dependency I haven't resolve?

Re: The state of blu-ray burning in linux is terrible

2013-07-28 Thread Edward Martinez
On 7/28/2013 8:50 PM, Richard Shaw wrote: Now to see if I can get cdrtools to play nice (or replace cdrkit) or give up and put it in /usr/local and hope brasero can find it there. Have you taken a look at this Howto; It is a bit old, but it may still apply. http://www.stephencuppett.c

Re: LibreOfffice and its new UI

2013-07-28 Thread Isaac Cortés González
> I have not experienced this. > > Install libreoffice-kde to see if this helps. I am > using that. I have it installed, that's not the problem. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/user

Re: How does one get a clean installation of Fedora?

2013-07-28 Thread Martin Skjöldebrand
On Sunday 28 July 2013 23.45.40 lee wrote: > Sam Varshavchik writes: > > lee writes: > >> Hi, > >> > >> how does one get a clean installation of Fedora? "Clean" means that > >> only those packages are installed that are actually needed and only > >> those services are running that are actually n

Re: LibreOfffice and its new UI

2013-07-28 Thread Peter Gueckel
Isaac Cortés González wrote: > is this because of KDE or is > there a dependency I haven't resolve? I have not experienced this. Install libreoffice-kde to see if this helps. I am using that. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: ht

LibreOfffice and its new UI

2013-07-28 Thread Isaac Cortés González
Well, I'm having a problem trying to enable the new UI of LibreOffice 4.1, all this in F19+KDE; but for some reason I can't see it in any menuItem or any other menu or option; is this because of KDE or is there a dependency I haven't resolve? -Isaac C. -- users mailing list users@lists.fe

Re: Do I need avahi?

2013-07-28 Thread David Beveridge
On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 1:21 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 07/29/13 11:09, David Beveridge wrote: >> The mask keyword is not used in any sysctl commands from what I can see. I should have looked more before typing. Oops. > > Are you confusing sysctl and systemctl? > yes > From the systemctl man pag

Re: The state of blu-ray burning in linux is terrible

2013-07-28 Thread Richard Shaw
Ok, ran into a couple of problems: 1. You don't actually get all 25GB after formatting, you get 24.8GB so I needed to modify the dd line to: $ dd if=/dev/zero of=./picback.udf bs=2048 count=12088320 2. Brasero now doesn't tell me that my image is too big for my disc, but still refuses to write.

Re: compton for fedora

2013-07-28 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Sun, 28 Jul 2013 21:51:10 +0200 poma wrote: > On 28.07.2013 21:42, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > > On Sun, 28 Jul 2013 21:37:14 +0200 poma > > wrote: > > > >> On 28.07.2013 21:24, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > >>> Does anyone know if the following is available for Fedora 19? > >>> > >>> I don't think it

Re: Do I need avahi?

2013-07-28 Thread Joe Zeff
On 07/28/2013 08:09 PM, David Beveridge wrote: The mask keyword is not used in any sysctl commands from what I can see. In fact the service-start-up script is linked to /dev/null, which effectively hides (masks) it from the system, so that it cannot be found or started. Then you haven't looked

Re: Do I need avahi?

2013-07-28 Thread Ed Greshko
On 07/29/13 11:09, David Beveridge wrote: > The mask keyword is not used in any sysctl commands from what I can see. Are you confusing sysctl and systemctl? From the systemctl man page mask NAME... Mask one or more unit files, as specified on the command line. This

Re: Do I need avahi?

2013-07-28 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 10:46:57 +0800 Ed Greshko wrote: > On 07/29/13 10:30, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > If you feel adventurous, go ahead and remove avahi without the > > dependent packages (rpm -e --nodeps avahi), and then keep using the > > broken system. If you are lucky, you won't run into troubl

Re: Do I need avahi?

2013-07-28 Thread David Beveridge
On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 12:47 PM, David Beveridge wrote: > On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Robert Arkiletian wrote: >> It's not that bad. This page explains it clearly. >> >> http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/three-levels-of-off > > That does describe what it does quite clearly, however, if you

Re: Do I need avahi?

2013-07-28 Thread Ed Greshko
On 07/29/13 10:30, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > If you feel adventurous, go ahead and remove avahi without the > dependent packages (rpm -e --nodeps avahi), and then keep using the > broken system. If you are lucky, you won't run into trouble. If that is > what will make you happy... That's "good" adv

Re: Do I need avahi?

2013-07-28 Thread David Beveridge
On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Robert Arkiletian wrote: > It's not that bad. This page explains it clearly. > > http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/three-levels-of-off That does describe what it does quite clearly, however, if you did not read that and tried to assume which did what, it would be

The state of blu-ray burning in linux is terrible

2013-07-28 Thread Richard Shaw
DISCLAIMER: Yes I'm whining, but hopefully someone who wants to user their BD writer will find this useful... Well I thought I would try to make my first blu-ray movie from some home movies instead of down converting them to DVD like I have been... Only to find out not only is it currently laborio

Re: Do I need avahi?

2013-07-28 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Sun, 28 Jul 2013 23:35:22 +0200 lee wrote: > Marko Vojinovic writes: > > On Sun, 28 Jul 2013 17:03:29 +0200 > > lee wrote: > >> Tim writes: > >> > They might not *actually* need it. i.e. They *may* make use of > >> > it for some features, that you *might* use, so they require it > >> > for

Re: Do I need avahi?

2013-07-28 Thread Robert Arkiletian
It's not that bad. This page explains it clearly. http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/three-levels-of-off -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedorapro

Re: Do I need avahi?

2013-07-28 Thread David Beveridge
On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 7:41 AM, lee wrote: > Joe Zeff writes: > >> On 07/28/2013 08:03 AM, lee wrote: >>> However, when I look at online dictionaries, they say that "disabled" >>> refers to people the abilities of which are somehow limited, so that >>> word won't be applicable here at all. Serv

Re: Disable built-in WiFi card so that USB WiFi device gets used --- systemctl?

2013-07-28 Thread poma
On 29.07.2013 02:01, Rolf Turner wrote: … > (b) Would it be possible to disable/mask the internal WiFi card but > leave the USB WiFi device > available, so that I can actually get a WiFi connection? … >> I am running Fedora 17; output of "uname -a" is: >> >>> Linux localhost.localdomain 3.3

Re: Do I need avahi?

2013-07-28 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Sun, 28 Jul 2013 23:41:14 +0200 lee wrote: > Joe Zeff writes: > > On 07/28/2013 08:03 AM, lee wrote: > >> However, when I look at online dictionaries, they say that > >> "disabled" refers to people the abilities of which are somehow > >> limited, so that word won't be applicable here at all.

Re: Disable built-in WiFi card so that USB WiFi device gets used --- systemctl?

2013-07-28 Thread Rolf Turner
So far I have received no useful responses to my question (given below). However I have recently seen in another thread a considerable amount of discussion of something called "systemctl". This sounds like it *might* do what I want. However looking at the man page for systemctl leaves just

Re: How does one get a clean installation of Fedora?

2013-07-28 Thread poma
On 29.07.2013 00:46, আনন্দ কুমার সমাদ্দার Ananda Samaddar wrote: > It looks like you'd be better served using something like Arch if you > want minimalism. > > Ananda > Eeny, meeny, miny, moe, Catch a package by the toe. If he hollers, let him go, Eeny, meeny, miny, moe. Eeny, meeny, tiny, toe

Re: RPM packaging: systemd service files

2013-07-28 Thread আনন্দ কুমার সমাদ্দার Ananda Samaddar
On Sun, 28 Jul 2013 19:00:13 -0400 Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi > > > On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 6:45 PM, আনন্দ কুমার সমাদ্দার wrote: > > > On Sun, 28 Jul 2013 18:13:24 -0400I've done as you suggested. The > > full spec is attached to this email. > > I'm going to use it in conjunction with this:

Re: How does one get a clean installation of Fedora?

2013-07-28 Thread Digimer
On 28/07/13 17:49, lee wrote: Digimer writes: On 28/07/13 11:07, lee wrote: Hi, how does one get a clean installation of Fedora? "Clean" means that only those packages are installed that are actually needed and only those services are running that are actually needed. You can do a "minima

Re: RPM packaging: systemd service files

2013-07-28 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 6:45 PM, আনন্দ কুমার সমাদ্দার wrote: > On Sun, 28 Jul 2013 18:13:24 -0400I've done as you suggested. The full > spec is attached to this email. > I'm going to use it in conjunction with this: > > http://gaenserich.github.io/hostsblock/ > > I'll have a look at packagi

Re: How does one get a clean installation of Fedora?

2013-07-28 Thread আনন্দ কুমার সমাদ্দার Ananda Samaddar
On Sun, 28 Jul 2013 23:49:42 +0200 lee wrote: > Digimer writes: > > > On 28/07/13 11:07, lee wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> how does one get a clean installation of Fedora? "Clean" means > >> that only those packages are installed that are actually needed > >> and only those services are running th

Re: RPM packaging: systemd service files

2013-07-28 Thread আনন্দ কুমার সমাদ্দার Ananda Samaddar
On Sun, 28 Jul 2013 18:13:24 -0400 Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi > > > > OK I fixed it by adding this: > > > > mkdir -p %{buildroot}%{_unitdir}/ > > > > before copying the service file. > > > > It's always the most obvious and daft things! > > > > Glad you found the solution. You might want to u

Re: Do I need avahi?

2013-07-28 Thread Joe Zeff
On 07/28/2013 02:41 PM, lee wrote: Yes, so why don't they use 'disable' to disable something rather than "masking" it so it isn't started during booting? I think that the idea is that a service that's enabled is always started at boot, one that's disabled doesn't get started until it's needed

Re: How does one get a clean installation of Fedora?

2013-07-28 Thread Sam Varshavchik
lee writes: Sam Varshavchik writes: > lee writes: > >> Hi, >> >> how does one get a clean installation of Fedora? "Clean" means that >> only those packages are installed that are actually needed and only >> those services are running that are actually needed. > > Very easy: > > Step 1: figure

Re: Do I need avahi?

2013-07-28 Thread Joe Zeff
On 07/28/2013 02:35 PM, lee wrote: Package B doesn't need to and shouldn't be installed when the particular functionality A can provide when B is installed is not needed. You know that you're not going to need that functionality, but the package management system doesn't. The only way it coul

Re: Apparently Incomplete Fedup 18->19

2013-07-28 Thread Tim Evans
On 07/28/2013 10:37 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Tim Evans writes: Nearly everything seems to suggest that my fedup upgrade from F18 only partially F19 succeeded. $ cat /etc/fedora-release Fedora release 19 (Schrödinger’s Cat) $ head /var/log/boot.log [ OK ] Started Show Plymouth Boot Screen.

Re: When booting F19, and so on....

2013-07-28 Thread Quicksort
Hello Roger, Same symptoms, booting always fails the first time while all subsequent attempts are successful. What puzzles me, however, is that I experienced for the first time one week ago this kind of problem with F19 x64 Gnome and never with F15 or F17. Quicksort -Message d'origine-

Re: RPM packaging: systemd service files

2013-07-28 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi > OK I fixed it by adding this: > > mkdir -p %{buildroot}%{_unitdir}/ > > before copying the service file. > > It's always the most obvious and daft things! > Glad you found the solution. You might want to use install instead of cp however and if you are interested in packaging this official

Re: Do I need avahi?

2013-07-28 Thread Frank
On 28/07/13 05:41 PM, lee wrote: Joe Zeff writes: On 07/28/2013 08:03 AM, lee wrote: However, when I look at online dictionaries, they say that "disabled" refers to people the abilities of which are somehow limited, so that word won't be applicable here at all. Services are not people, and i

Re: How does one get a clean installation of Fedora?

2013-07-28 Thread lee
Reindl Harald writes: > Am 28.07.2013 21:13, schrieb Erik P. Olsen: >> On 28/07/13 17:07, lee wrote: >>> how does one get a clean installation of Fedora? "Clean" means that >>> only those packages are installed that are actually needed and only >>> those services are running that are actually ne

Re: Do I need avahi?

2013-07-28 Thread lee
Marko Vojinovic writes: > On Sun, 28 Jul 2013 17:03:29 +0200 > lee wrote: >> Tim writes: >> > They might not *actually* need it. i.e. They *may* make use of it >> > for some features, that you *might* use, so they require it for >> > those purposes. But if you don't use those features, it doe

Re: How does one get a clean installation of Fedora?

2013-07-28 Thread lee
Sam Varshavchik writes: > lee writes: > >> Hi, >> >> how does one get a clean installation of Fedora? "Clean" means that >> only those packages are installed that are actually needed and only >> those services are running that are actually needed. > > Very easy: > > Step 1: figure out what packa

Re: Do I need avahi?

2013-07-28 Thread lee
Joe Zeff writes: > On 07/28/2013 08:03 AM, lee wrote: >> However, when I look at online dictionaries, they say that "disabled" >> refers to people the abilities of which are somehow limited, so that >> word won't be applicable here at all. Services are not people, and it >> is a bad idea to use

Re: How does one get a clean installation of Fedora?

2013-07-28 Thread lee
Digimer writes: > On 28/07/13 11:07, lee wrote: >> Hi, >> >> how does one get a clean installation of Fedora? "Clean" means that >> only those packages are installed that are actually needed and only >> those services are running that are actually needed. > > You can do a "minimal" install and t

Re: How does one get a clean installation of Fedora?

2013-07-28 Thread lee
"Erik P. Olsen" writes: > On 28/07/13 17:07, lee wrote: >> Hi, >> >> how does one get a clean installation of Fedora? "Clean" means that >> only those packages are installed that are actually needed and only >> those services are running that are actually needed. >> >> > Needed by whome? by the

Re: compton for fedora

2013-07-28 Thread poma
On 28.07.2013 21:42, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > On Sun, 28 Jul 2013 21:37:14 +0200 poma > wrote: > >> On 28.07.2013 21:24, Ranjan Maitra wrote: >>> Does anyone know if the following is available for Fedora 19? >>> >>> I don't think it is in the repos, but perhaps it is in some other >>> auxiliary re

Re: compton for fedora

2013-07-28 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Sun, 28 Jul 2013 21:37:14 +0200 poma wrote: > On 28.07.2013 21:24, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > > Does anyone know if the following is available for Fedora 19? > > > > I don't think it is in the repos, but perhaps it is in some other > > auxiliary repo? > > > > Thanks, > > Ranjan > > > > Compto

Re: compton for fedora

2013-07-28 Thread poma
On 28.07.2013 21:24, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > Does anyone know if the following is available for Fedora 19? > > I don't think it is in the repos, but perhaps it is in some other > auxiliary repo? > > Thanks, > Ranjan > Compton, California? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dyw6LZpSOA :) poma -

Re: netinst of fedora xfce

2013-07-28 Thread poma
On 28.07.2013 11:47, François Patte wrote: > Le 27/07/2013 20:37, poma a écrit : >> On 27.07.2013 17:38, François Patte wrote: >>> Le 26/07/2013 18:51, poma a écrit : On 26.07.2013 18:31, François Patte wrote: … > I tried today to install f19 with xfce but it is such a chore that I >>

compton for fedora

2013-07-28 Thread Ranjan Maitra
Does anyone know if the following is available for Fedora 19? I don't think it is in the repos, but perhaps it is in some other auxiliary repo? Thanks, Ranjan -- Important Notice: This mailbox is ignored: e-mails are set to be deleted on receipt. For those needing to send personal or professio

Re: How does one get a clean installation of Fedora?

2013-07-28 Thread Erik P. Olsen
On 28/07/13 17:07, lee wrote: Hi, how does one get a clean installation of Fedora? "Clean" means that only those packages are installed that are actually needed and only those services are running that are actually needed. Needed by whome? -- Erik -- users mailing list users@lists.fedorapro

RE: Login messed up after upgrading kernel

2013-07-28 Thread Junayeed Ahnaf
> You should know that top-posting and sending html messages to a mailing > list are considered bad etiquette. > Sorry for that :< Junayeed Ahnaf Nirjhor -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription optio

Re: RPM packaging: systemd service files

2013-07-28 Thread আনন্দ কুমার সমাদ্দার Ananda Samaddar
On Sun, 28 Jul 2013 19:08:20 +0100 আনন্দ কুমার সমাদ্দার Ananda Samaddar wrote: > On Sun, 28 Jul 2013 20:01:42 +0200 > Reindl Harald wrote: > > > > > > > Am 28.07.2013 19:57, schrieb আনন্দ কুমার সমাদ্দার Ananda Samaddar: > > > I can get kwakd to build and package properly apart from one > > >

Re: Do I need avahi?

2013-07-28 Thread Joe Zeff
On 07/28/2013 08:03 AM, lee wrote: However, when I look at online dictionaries, they say that "disabled" refers to people the abilities of which are somehow limited, so that word won't be applicable here at all. Services are not people, and it is a bad idea to use misleading terms like this. I

Re: RPM packaging: systemd service files

2013-07-28 Thread আনন্দ কুমার সমাদ্দার Ananda Samaddar
On Sun, 28 Jul 2013 20:01:42 +0200 Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 28.07.2013 19:57, schrieb আনন্দ কুমার সমাদ্দার Ananda Samaddar: > > I can get kwakd to build and package properly apart from one thing. > > The systemd service file needs to be copied to the appropriate > > directory and it doesn'

RPM packaging: systemd service files

2013-07-28 Thread আনন্দ কুমার সমাদ্দার Ananda Samaddar
Hello all, I'm attempting to package Kwakd for Fedora. I'm pretty new to rpm packaging but have already managed to build and package some simple stuff. I can get kwakd to build and package properly apart from one thing. The systemd service file needs to be copied to the appropriate directory and

Re: Login messed up after upgrading kernel

2013-07-28 Thread আনন্দ কুমার সমাদ্দার Ananda Samaddar
On Sun, 28 Jul 2013 23:40:01 +0600 Junayeed Ahnaf wrote: > I play some games via steam and I need the proprietary driver for > better gaming. I hope an update fixes the driver - kernel issue :) > > Junayeed Ahnaf Nirjhor > Software Engineer @ Hulu > Twitter @ Nirjhor > You should know that top

RE: Login messed up after upgrading kernel

2013-07-28 Thread Junayeed Ahnaf
I play some games via steam and I need the proprietary driver for better gaming. I hope an update fixes the driver - kernel issue :) Junayeed Ahnaf Nirjhor Software Engineer @ Hulu Twitter @ Nirjhor > Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 18:34:54 +0100 > From: asamad...@myopera.com > To: users@lists.fedorapr

Re: Login messed up after upgrading kernel

2013-07-28 Thread আনন্দ কুমার সমাদ্দার Ananda Samaddar
On Sun, 28 Jul 2013 23:19:21 +0600 Junayeed Ahnaf wrote: > Hello, > > I'm using Linux 3.10.x kernel and I have AMD proprietary graphics > driver running akmod. The 3.9.9 kernel series was working fine until > the latest update came. > > Now I can't log in using the new kernel, tthe screen goes

portable USB drive automatically remounts after unmounting

2013-07-28 Thread Andre Robatino
My portable USB drive that usually automatically remounts after unmounting with gnome-disks. I am running F19. I have to unmount several times before it finally stays unmounted (at which point it also powers off). In F18, it would always stay unmounted, but never power off. Is this a common problem

Login messed up after upgrading kernel

2013-07-28 Thread Junayeed Ahnaf
Hello, I'm using Linux 3.10.x kernel and I have AMD proprietary graphics driver running akmod. The 3.9.9 kernel series was working fine until the latest update came. Now I can't log in using the new kernel, tthe screen goes black and it logs itself out. I can't even log back in. The older ke

Re: How does one get a clean installation of Fedora?

2013-07-28 Thread Digimer
On 28/07/13 11:07, lee wrote: Hi, how does one get a clean installation of Fedora? "Clean" means that only those packages are installed that are actually needed and only those services are running that are actually needed. You can do a "minimal" install and then install just the applications

Re: Do I need avahi?

2013-07-28 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Sun, 28 Jul 2013 17:03:29 +0200 lee wrote: > Tim writes: > > They might not *actually* need it. i.e. They *may* make use of it > > for some features, that you *might* use, so they require it for > > those purposes. But if you don't use those features, it doesn't > > need to be running. > >

Re: Do I need avahi?

2013-07-28 Thread Frank
On 07/28/2013 12:23 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: On Sun, 28 Jul 2013 16:21:55 +0200 lee wrote: Marko Vojinovic writes: On Sun, 28 Jul 2013 00:58:24 +0200 lee wrote: Hmm I disabled it now and will see what happens. There are 224 packages depending on the avahi package --- that's insane for so

Re: Do I need avahi?

2013-07-28 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Sun, 28 Jul 2013 16:21:55 +0200 lee wrote: > Marko Vojinovic writes: > > On Sun, 28 Jul 2013 00:58:24 +0200 > > lee wrote: > >> Hmm I disabled it now and will see what happens. There are 224 > >> packages depending on the avahi package --- that's insane for > >> something that isn't needed.

Re: How does one get a clean installation of Fedora?

2013-07-28 Thread Sam Varshavchik
lee writes: Hi, how does one get a clean installation of Fedora? "Clean" means that only those packages are installed that are actually needed and only those services are running that are actually needed. Very easy: Step 1: figure out what packages and services you need. Step 2: install jus

Re: Do I need avahi?

2013-07-28 Thread lee
poma writes: > For users prone to outsmart distro by diminishing app prints I recommend > http://www.damnsmalllinux.org. ;) When I look at what it has, I find it has lots of things I don't need and not much I do need. They say that when you extend it, it turns into a Debian system, and that is

How does one get a clean installation of Fedora?

2013-07-28 Thread lee
Hi, how does one get a clean installation of Fedora? "Clean" means that only those packages are installed that are actually needed and only those services are running that are actually needed. -- Fedora release 19 (Schrödinger’s Cat) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsu

Re: Do I need avahi?

2013-07-28 Thread lee
Tim writes: > Allegedly, on or about 28 July 2013, lee sent: >> There are 224 packages depending on the avahi package --- that's >> insane for something that isn't needed. >> >> Why are there so many packages depending on it? > > They might not *actually* need it. i.e. They *may* make use of i

Re: Do I need avahi?

2013-07-28 Thread lee
Marko Vojinovic writes: > On Sun, 28 Jul 2013 00:58:24 +0200 > lee wrote: > >> Timothy Murphy writes: >> >> > But my real query is whether avahi (or zeroconf) >> > could actually offer me anything useful. >> >> Hmm I disabled it now and will see what happens. There are 224 >> packages depend

Re: Apparently Incomplete Fedup 18->19

2013-07-28 Thread Richard Shaw
On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 9:06 AM, Tim Evans wrote: > Kernel appears to be F18, though: > > $ uname -a > Linux harrier.xxx.com 3.9.11-200.fc18.i686.PAE #1 SMP Mon Jul 22 21:19:06 > UTC 2013 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux > I think in this case it's because the kernel is at a higher version in F18 than F

Re: Apparently Incomplete Fedup 18->19

2013-07-28 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Tim Evans writes: Nearly everything seems to suggest that my fedup upgrade from F18 only partially F19 succeeded. $ cat /etc/fedora-release Fedora release 19 (Schrödinger’s Cat) $ head /var/log/boot.log [ OK ] Started Show Plymouth Boot Screen. [ OK ] Reached target Basic System. Welcom

Re: Do I need avahi?

2013-07-28 Thread poma
On 07/28/2013 09:00 AM, Tim wrote: > Allegedly, on or about 28 July 2013, lee sent: >> There are 224 packages depending on the avahi package --- that's >> insane for something that isn't needed. >> >> Why are there so many packages depending on it? > > They might not *actually* need it. i.e. The

Apparently Incomplete Fedup 18->19

2013-07-28 Thread Tim Evans
Nearly everything seems to suggest that my fedup upgrade from F18 only partially F19 succeeded. $ cat /etc/fedora-release Fedora release 19 (Schrödinger’s Cat) $ head /var/log/boot.log [ OK ] Started Show Plymouth Boot Screen. [ OK ] Reached target Basic System. Welcome to Fedora 19 (Schrö

Re: Native Nvidia Optimus and Fedora 19

2013-07-28 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 28.07.2013, Alexander Volovics wrote: > Are you not being a little harsh on the Intel GPU support. > There might be 'TONS' of reports but I myself have experience > with 6 Dell/Lenovo desktops/laptops (3 in house with daily use), > Sandybridge and Ivybridge, and have never experienced 'Hangche

Re: Native Nvidia Optimus and Fedora 19

2013-07-28 Thread Alexander Volovics
On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 01:26:47PM +0200, Heinz Diehl wrote: > On 27.07.2013, valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: > > I'm considering buying a laptop with Nvidia Optimus, and this looks really > > bad! > Do yourself a favour and don't buy a laptop with optimus. I have one, > and to spare you the

Re: HTML5

2013-07-28 Thread Ed Gurski
I am currently running many web sites that utilize HTML 5 and validate each page with the HTML validator at http://validator.w3.org/ You can validate via file upload or by address. While this is experimental, I have found it to be an invaluable source. I would also validate your Cascading Style Sh

Re: Native Nvidia Optimus and Fedora 19

2013-07-28 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 27.07.2013, valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: > I'm considering buying a laptop with Nvidia Optimus, and this looks really > bad! Do yourself a favour and don't buy a laptop with optimus. I have one, and to spare you the details: the nvidia gpu is not useable without a lot of trouble. I finall

IGNORE Re: F20 Udev js help needed

2013-07-28 Thread Frank Murphy
On Sun, 28 Jul 2013 10:23:52 +0100 Frank Murphy wrote: Apologies for noise, was confusing udev with polkit :( -- Regards, Frank "When in doubt PANIC!" I check for new mail app. 20min www.frankly3d.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription o

Re: Brosix on Fedora 19

2013-07-28 Thread Roger
On 07/28/2013 07:55 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 07/28/13 17:51, Roger wrote: On 07/28/2013 07:29 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: On Sun, 28 Jul 2013 19:23:44 +1000 Roger wrote: Thanks, yum search Warning: No matches found for: lib32-libjpeg6 Warning: No matches found for: lib32-zlib Warning: No matches

Re: Brosix on Fedora 19

2013-07-28 Thread Ed Greshko
On 07/28/13 17:51, Roger wrote: > On 07/28/2013 07:29 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: >> On Sun, 28 Jul 2013 19:23:44 +1000 >> Roger wrote: >> >>> Thanks, yum search Warning: No matches found for: lib32-libjpeg6 >>> Warning: No matches found for: lib32-zlib >>> Warning: No matches found for: lib32-libtiff

Re: Brosix on Fedora 19

2013-07-28 Thread Roger
On 07/28/2013 07:29 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: On Sun, 28 Jul 2013 19:23:44 +1000 Roger wrote: Thanks, yum search Warning: No matches found for: lib32-libjpeg6 Warning: No matches found for: lib32-zlib Warning: No matches found for: lib32-libtiff4 Warning: No matches found for: lib32-libv4l No ma

Re: netinst of fedora xfce

2013-07-28 Thread François Patte
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 27/07/2013 20:37, poma a écrit : > On 27.07.2013 17:38, François Patte wrote: >> Le 26/07/2013 18:51, poma a écrit : >>> On 26.07.2013 18:31, François Patte wrote: >>> … I tried today to install f19 with xfce but it is such a chore that I

Re: Brosix on Fedora 19

2013-07-28 Thread Frank Murphy
On Sun, 28 Jul 2013 19:23:44 +1000 Roger wrote: > Thanks, yum search Warning: No matches found for: lib32-libjpeg6 > Warning: No matches found for: lib32-zlib > Warning: No matches found for: lib32-libtiff4 > Warning: No matches found for: lib32-libv4l > No matches found > Probably zip files, I'l

F20 Udev js help needed

2013-07-28 Thread Frank Murphy
Though F20, general Fedora js problem. Following the link below: http://raftaman.net/?p=300 4. Udev Auto-Magic 5. Mounting script I know udev has changed to js, Also due to the fact that USB stick can die, I want to clone\copy(?) this on 4xusb sticks So rather than manufacturer, thinking of Lab

Re: Brosix on Fedora 19

2013-07-28 Thread Roger
On 07/28/2013 06:29 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: On Sun, 28 Jul 2013 18:11:20 +1000 Roger wrote: depends=(lib32-libjpeg6 lib32-zlib lib32-libtiff4 lib32-libv4l Look at the script you need these 32bit libs installed. Doesn't matter if the 64bit libs are already installed. so yum search those 32 bi

Re: Native Nvidia Optimus and Fedora 19

2013-07-28 Thread Alexander Volovics
On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 03:47:03PM +0200, valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: > I'm considering buying a laptop with Nvidia Optimus, and this looks really > bad! Have you managed to fix this issue? Did you get Fedora 19 to install? > Do Ubuntu and Linux Mint work better with Nvidia Optimus graphics?

Re: Java symbolic links broken on Fedora 19?

2013-07-28 Thread Alchemist
2013/7/28 Dave Johansen > On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 2:01 PM, Alchemist wrote: > >> >> >> >> 2013/7/27 Dave Johansen >> >>> I have a system that I upgraded from Fedora 18 to 19 recently and I >>> just installed eclipse, but it says that there's no JVM when I try and >>> run it. I noticed that /usr

Re: Brosix on Fedora 19

2013-07-28 Thread Frank Murphy
On Sun, 28 Jul 2013 18:11:20 +1000 Roger wrote: > depends=(lib32-libjpeg6 lib32-zlib lib32-libtiff4 lib32-libv4l Look at the script you need these 32bit libs installed. Doesn't matter if the 64bit libs are already installed. so yum search those 32 bit libs, and install them -- Regards, Frank

Re: Brosix on Fedora 19

2013-07-28 Thread Ed Greshko
On 07/28/13 16:20, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 07/28/13 16:11, Roger wrote: >> What does this do and where should it be placed? >> http://pastebin.com/fFkt6pri >> Seems it's for x86x64 but not very helpful. > It should not be placed anywhere > > This is part of the packaging of brosix in archlinux.

Re: Brosix on Fedora 19

2013-07-28 Thread Ed Greshko
On 07/28/13 16:11, Roger wrote: > What does this do and where should it be placed? > http://pastebin.com/fFkt6pri > Seems it's for x86x64 but not very helpful. It should not be placed anywhere This is part of the packaging of brosix in archlinux. -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions a

F19: Creative Labs [SB X-Fi Xtreme Audio] CA0110-IBG - no sound in headphones

2013-07-28 Thread Mateusz Marzantowicz
Hello, I'm fighting with my sound card, which is X-Fi Xtreme Audio (Creative Labs [SB X-Fi Xtreme Audio] CA0110-IBG). Everything but headphones works perfectly. When jack is plugged correctly, headphones are identified and shown in GNOME sound applet, but there is no sound. When jack is plugged pa

Re: Brosix on Fedora 19

2013-07-28 Thread Roger
On 07/28/2013 03:36 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 07/28/13 13:04, Roger wrote: Trying to run Brosix. rpm installed it ok - it's in /usr/bin/brosix but will not start from the menu or terminal. In terminal $ brosix /usr/share/brosix/Brosix.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libv4l2.so.0: ca

Re: Brosix on Fedora 19

2013-07-28 Thread Ed Greshko
On 07/28/13 15:13, Roger wrote: > On 07/28/2013 03:36 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 07/28/13 13:04, Roger wrote: >>> Trying to run Brosix. >>> rpm installed it ok - it's in /usr/bin/brosix but will not start from the >>> menu or terminal. >>> In terminal $ brosix >>> /usr/share/brosix/Brosix.bin: e

Re: Brosix on Fedora 19

2013-07-28 Thread Roger
On 07/28/2013 03:36 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 07/28/13 13:04, Roger wrote: Trying to run Brosix. rpm installed it ok - it's in /usr/bin/brosix but will not start from the menu or terminal. In terminal $ brosix /usr/share/brosix/Brosix.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libv4l2.so.0: ca

Re: HTML5

2013-07-28 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 26 July 2013, Richard Vickery sent: > I suppose I am answering my own question when I suggest the > supposition that I can open files in a web-browser. A web browser has never been a suitable test for HTML (or other similar languages). It doesn't point out errors, it makes

Re: Do I need avahi?

2013-07-28 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 28 July 2013, lee sent: > There are 224 packages depending on the avahi package --- that's > insane for something that isn't needed. > > Why are there so many packages depending on it? They might not *actually* need it. i.e. They *may* make use of it for some features, th