canon network scanner

2013-08-26 Thread Hiisi
Hi there! We have the following configuration in our lab: multifunctional (printer+scanner) device canon mf4410 is connected to the usb port of a router. Router is netgear WNR3500L and is configured to share this printer to every computer in the lab. What steps should I take to make my fedora17

Re: Video is slow

2013-08-26 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Sun, 25 Aug 2013 22:12:34 -0700 Joe Zeff j...@zeff.us wrote: On 08/25/2013 09:21 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: While I respect Joe Zeff as a reputable member of this list, those instructions on fedoraforum are a total piece of crap. I don't know who wrote those instructions, but

Re: phone no longer mounts over usb

2013-08-26 Thread Gregory Hosler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thanks to all that originally responded. I bugzilled, and it happens that this was a kernel bug, appearing only in the 3.10.4 kernels. The latest 3.10.7-200 works correctly again. All the best, - -Greg On 08/05/2013 10:28 AM, Gregory Hosler wrote:

Re: Video is slow

2013-08-26 Thread Joe Zeff
On 08/26/2013 12:20 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: * Any of the remaining stuff about PAE kernels, selinux policies, grub tweaking and manually blacklisting nouveau should be frown upon. Not only that those things are not necessary for the installation of the driver, but moreover they can

Re: MATE desktop

2013-08-26 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 7:00 PM, Les Howell hlhow...@pacbell.net wrote: What is the key to getting MATE installed and run on a user? sudo yum groupinstall MATE Desktop Will the GNOME3 version of Evolution, Firefox, etc all run? Should do, but it's easier just to try it. If you don't like

Re: Video is slow

2013-08-26 Thread Harald Hoyer
On 08/26/2013 09:20 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: On Sun, 25 Aug 2013 22:12:34 -0700 Joe Zeff j...@zeff.us wrote: On 08/25/2013 09:21 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: While I respect Joe Zeff as a reputable member of this list, those instructions on fedoraforum are a total piece of crap. I don't know

Re: MATE desktop

2013-08-26 Thread Gregory Hosler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/26/2013 02:00 AM, Les Howell wrote: My wife doesn't like the GNOME3 desktop. She did like GNOME2, so I have found that MATE desktop is a fork of GNOME2. I have looked at the software menu (on x86_64 F19) and see lots of stuff related to

Re: Video is slow

2013-08-26 Thread Roger
On 26/08/13 19:01, Harald Hoyer wrote: On 08/26/2013 09:20 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: On Sun, 25 Aug 2013 22:12:34 -0700 Joe Zeff j...@zeff.us wrote: On 08/25/2013 09:21 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: While I respect Joe Zeff as a reputable member of this list, those instructions on fedoraforum

Re: Video is slow

2013-08-26 Thread poma
On 26.08.2013 11:01, Harald Hoyer wrote: /boot/initramfs-$(uname -r).img is the default value of the first argument and can be omitted. $(uname -r) is the default value of the second argument and can be omitted. So, this results in # dracut True. :) $(uname -r) is the default value

Re: Read Only file system

2013-08-26 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 24.08.2013 00:19, schrieb Jim: On 08/23/2013 05:45 PM, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: On 23.08.2013 23:40, Jim wrote: On 08/23/2013 05:29 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: Mount point is ; rwx--. 25 mickey mickey 8192 Dec 31 1969 /run/media/mickey/0A73-237A I ran mount -o remount,rw

Fedora/Redhat and perfect forward secrecy

2013-08-26 Thread Reindl Harald
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=319901 looks like Redhat based systems are the only remaining which does not support EECDHE which is a shame these days in context of PRISM and more and more Ciphers are going to be unuseable (BEAST/CRIME weakness)

Re: Another amusing bug

2013-08-26 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 25.08.2013 19:20, schrieb Tom Horsley: Given that, I've had to develop my own theory: The mei module is actually the primary back door for the NSA to access linux systems. Why else would they go to so much trouble to generate so much obfuscated non-documentation for it? *stop* spread

Re: Another amusing bug

2013-08-26 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 25.08.2013 20:00, schrieb Tom Horsley: On Sun, 25 Aug 2013 12:37:03 -0500 Steven Stern wrote: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=mei+kernel+modulel=1 http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Intel+Management+Engine+ And the results of such searches are all those words which are concatenated together and say

Re: Another amusing bug

2013-08-26 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 25.08.2013 22:41, schrieb g: On 08/25/2013 03:04 PM, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: I don't think you understood my comment correctly. OP is writing about some mysterious kernel module and I just pointed him to module's source code. I'm not posting any proofs because I'm not claiming

Re: MATE desktop

2013-08-26 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 25.08.2013 20:00, schrieb Les Howell: My wife doesn't like the GNOME3 desktop. She did like GNOME2, so I have found that MATE desktop is a fork of GNOME2. I have looked at the software menu (on x86_64 F19) and see lots of stuff related to MATE. What is the key to getting MATE installed

Re: Another amusing bug

2013-08-26 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 25.08.2013 22:49, schrieb g: On 08/25/2013 03:43 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: it was *sarcasm* because the thread-starter did spread FUD is this really so hard to understand? really? so now you are a physic telepathic too? i do not need to be a physic telepathic i only need to follow

Re: Fedora/Redhat and perfect forward secrecy

2013-08-26 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 26.08.2013 13:26, schrieb Jan-Frode Myklebust: On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 11:07:29AM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: On 08/24/2013 11:38 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=319901 looks like Redhat based systems are the only remaining which does not support

Re: Fedora/Redhat and perfect forward secrecy

2013-08-26 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 26.08.2013 11:07, schrieb Florian Weimer: On 08/24/2013 11:38 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=319901 looks like Redhat based systems are the only remaining which does not support EECDHE which is a shame these days in context of PRISM and more and

Re: Another amusing bug

2013-08-26 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 25 Aug 2013 19:49:47 +0200 Reindl Harald wrote: *stop* spread such unqualified FUD in the public and RTFM http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Active_Management_Technology And this wikipedia article is yet another example of a detailed desciption that says everything AMT does is behind

Re: MATE desktop

2013-08-26 Thread Ben Greear
On 08/26/2013 01:53 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 7:00 PM, Les Howell hlhow...@pacbell.net mailto:hlhow...@pacbell.net wrote: What is the key to getting MATE installed and run on a user? sudo yum groupinstall MATE Desktop Will the GNOME3 version of

Re: Fedora/Redhat and perfect forward secrecy

2013-08-26 Thread Alchemist
2013/8/24 Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=319901 looks like Redhat based systems are the only remaining which does not support EECDHE which is a shame these days in context of PRISM and more and more Ciphers are going to be unuseable

Re: Fedup upgrade from F17

2013-08-26 Thread Fernando Lozano
Hi, Either upgrade release by release or do fresh install from f17 to f18. Although it might be possible do upgrade from f17 to f19, I don't recommend it because too much have changed between f17 and f19. I've done this twice. My laptop went perfectly. My desktop hung at about 60%,

Something weird... some passwords gone

2013-08-26 Thread linuxnutster
I've suddenly had to retype a bunch of passwords, including banking passwords, in firefox and thunderbird. I had selinux disabled on my PC and notebook and reactivated it. The strange thing is that thunderbird did not lose all of my email passwords, only one. The same on my PC. I am being

Re: Fedora/Redhat and perfect forward secrecy

2013-08-26 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 26.08.2013, Alchemist wrote: Very good discussion. This is an important issue. OpenSSL with Elliptic Curve was added to the http://rpmfusion.org/Wishlist, but the question remains open Is the crypto the real problem (=weakest link), or is it something else? I guess that would be the

Re: Another amusing bug

2013-08-26 Thread g
On 08/25/2013 12:49 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 25.08.2013 19:20, schrieb Tom Horsley: Given that, I've had to develop my own theory: The mei module is actually the primary back door for the NSA to access linux systems. Why else would they go to so much trouble to generate so much obfuscated

Re: Something weird... some passwords gone

2013-08-26 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/26/2013 10:14 AM, linuxnuts...@videotron.ca wrote: I've suddenly had to retype a bunch of passwords, including banking passwords, in firefox and thunderbird. I had selinux disabled on my PC and notebook and reactivated it. The strange thing

Re: Something weird... some passwords gone

2013-08-26 Thread Alchemist
2013/8/26 linuxnuts...@videotron.ca I've suddenly had to retype a bunch of passwords, including banking passwords, in firefox and thunderbird. I had selinux disabled on my PC and notebook and reactivated it. The strange thing is that thunderbird did not lose all of my email passwords, only

Re: Another amusing bug

2013-08-26 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 26.08.2013 16:39, schrieb g: On 08/25/2013 12:49 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 25.08.2013 19:20, schrieb Tom Horsley: Given that, I've had to develop my own theory: The mei module is actually the primary back door for the NSA to access linux systems. Why else would they go to so much

Re: Fedora/Redhat and perfect forward secrecy

2013-08-26 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 26.08.2013 16:24, schrieb Chuck Anderson: On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 11:17:52AM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: cause and effect because Fedora does *not* support Ciphers without large performance impacts in reality without ECDHE you have no way go to https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/ and look

Re: Another amusing bug

2013-08-26 Thread g
On 08/26/2013 10:01 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: i referred to wikipedia because *every* article there has references so if you are so gently and scroll down or click on the anchors on top you find a ton of links referring to Intel websites and PDF's a virgin, i am not, to wiki*, having been

Re: MATE desktop

2013-08-26 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 9:59 AM, Ben Greear wrote: One thing I noticed, 'gdm' appears to use gnome-shell, so if you have a system w/out accelerated graphics, your CPU will still be eaten by gnome-shell even if you log into MATE. Is that an actual experience or are you speculating?

Re: Another amusing bug

2013-08-26 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 25 August 2013, Joe Zeff sent: *WE ARE THE VOGONS! RESISTANCE IS USELESS!* I think the cybermen managed to predate the Vogans and Borg with the resistance is useless, and you will become like us, threats, in the 1960s. ;-) -- All mail to my mailbox is automatically

Re: MATE desktop

2013-08-26 Thread Ben Greear
On 08/26/2013 08:28 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Hi On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 9:59 AM, Ben Greear wrote: One thing I noticed, 'gdm' appears to use gnome-shell, so if you have a system w/out accelerated graphics, your CPU will still be eaten by gnome-shell even if you log into MATE.

Re: Another amusing bug

2013-08-26 Thread g
On 08/26/2013 11:20 AM, Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 25 August 2013, Joe Zeff sent: *WE ARE THE VOGONS! RESISTANCE IS USELESS!* I think the cybermen managed to predate the Vogans and Borg with the resistance is useless, and you will become like us, threats, in the 1960s. ;-)

Re: canon network scanner

2013-08-26 Thread Louis Lagendijk
On Mon, 2013-08-26 at 10:57 +0400, Hiisi wrote: Hi there! We have the following configuration in our lab: multifunctional (printer+scanner) device canon mf4410 is connected to the usb port of a router. Router is netgear WNR3500L and is configured to share this printer to every computer in the

Re: Another amusing bug

2013-08-26 Thread Joe Zeff
On 08/26/2013 09:20 AM, Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 25 August 2013, Joe Zeff sent: *WE ARE THE VOGONS! RESISTANCE IS USELESS!* I think the cybermen managed to predate the Vogans and Borg with the resistance is useless, and you will become like us, threats, in the 1960s. ;-) Well, I

Re: Another amusing bug

2013-08-26 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 26.08.2013 19:10, schrieb Joe Zeff: On 08/26/2013 09:20 AM, Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 25 August 2013, Joe Zeff sent: *WE ARE THE VOGONS! RESISTANCE IS USELESS!* I think the cybermen managed to predate the Vogans and Borg with the resistance is useless, and you will become like

Re: Something weird... some passwords gone

2013-08-26 Thread linuxnutster
On 08/26/2013 11:22 AM, Alchemist wrote: 2013/8/26 linuxnuts...@videotron.ca mailto:linuxnuts...@videotron.ca I've suddenly had to retype a bunch of passwords, including banking passwords, in firefox and thunderbird. I had selinux disabled on my PC and notebook and reactivated

Re: MATE desktop

2013-08-26 Thread Les Howell
On Mon, 2013-08-26 at 09:53 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: sudo yum groupinstall MATE Desktop Thanks, Pat, This will help. I did look through the software list, but couldn't figure out the root of the desktop. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe

Re: Something weird... some passwords gone

2013-08-26 Thread Alchemist
2013/8/26 linuxnuts...@videotron.ca On 08/26/2013 11:22 AM, Alchemist wrote: 2013/8/26 linuxnuts...@videotron.ca mailto:linuxnutster@**videotron.calinuxnuts...@videotron.ca I've suddenly had to retype a bunch of passwords, including banking passwords, in firefox and

F19: Wireless not working - dhclient not running?

2013-08-26 Thread John Horne
Hello, Updated from F17 to F19 with a fresh install, and have hit a few problems. The main one is that my wireless interface does not come up (it is an Atheros AR9170 device). I configured it in F17 without NetworkManager by modifying the /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf and

cannot access incoming yahoo from evolution

2013-08-26 Thread Ron
When I attempt to login to receive my email from yahoo.comĀ  the password is not recognized. If I login from the yahoo web page with the same password i am able to retreve my incoming messages. I am using Server (pop.mail.yahoo.com) Port 110. I have encryption turned off. The Authentication is

Re: cannot access incoming yahoo from evolution

2013-08-26 Thread Patrick Kobly
Have you got Access Yahoo! Mail via POP turned on in your mail settings on the yahoo site? PK Sent from my iPhone On 2013-08-26, at 2:04 PM, Ron rcher...@excite.com wrote: When I attempt to login to receive my email from yahoo.com the password is not recognized. If I login from the yahoo

Re: F19: Wireless not working - dhclient not running?

2013-08-26 Thread g
hello john, On 08/26/2013 01:39 PM, John Horne wrote: Hello, Updated from F17 to F19 with a fresh install, and have hit a few problems. The main one is that my wireless interface does not come up (it is an Atheros AR9170 device). i do not recall exactly when something similar was

Re: F19: Wireless not working - dhclient not running?

2013-08-26 Thread John Horne
On Mon, 2013-08-26 at 15:46 -0500, g wrote: hello john, On 08/26/2013 01:39 PM, John Horne wrote: Hello, Updated from F17 to F19 with a fresh install, and have hit a few problems. The main one is that my wireless interface does not come up (it is an Atheros AR9170 device). i do

Reinstall over LVM

2013-08-26 Thread Roger
Is it possible to do a re installation of Fedora 19 where the file system is LVM on a 2nd partition on my hard drive without losing files in the /home directory structure? There was a discussion about this some time ago but I didn't take much notice then. TIA Roger -- users mailing list

The One Million Bugs Bunny

2013-08-26 Thread poma
And the winner is https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=100 Should we cry or laugh!? poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct:

Re: Another amusing bug

2013-08-26 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 26 August 2013, g sent: showing our age, are we not. ;=) No point acquiring it if you can't show it off... ;-) Though, in my defence, I'll say that I didn't get to see them the first time around. -- All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point

Re: Reinstall over LVM

2013-08-26 Thread Rejy M Cyriac
On 08/27/2013 08:04 AM, Roger wrote: Is it possible to do a re installation of Fedora 19 where the file system is LVM on a 2nd partition on my hard drive without losing files in the /home directory structure? There was a discussion about this some time ago but I didn't take much notice then.

Re: The One Million Bugs Bunny

2013-08-26 Thread Rejy M Cyriac
On 08/27/2013 08:16 AM, poma wrote: And the winner is https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=100 Should we cry or laugh!? poma A smile and tears of pride from me, for Bugzilla having faithfully and tirelessly served millions over the years... :-) -- Regards, Rejy M

Re: Reinstall over LVM

2013-08-26 Thread Roger
On 27/08/13 14:04, Rejy M Cyriac wrote: On 08/27/2013 08:04 AM, Roger wrote: Is it possible to do a re installation of Fedora 19 where the file system is LVM on a 2nd partition on my hard drive without losing files in the /home directory structure? There was a discussion about this some time

Re: Reinstall over LVM

2013-08-26 Thread Joe Zeff
On 08/26/2013 09:04 PM, Rejy M Cyriac wrote: You can re-install, as long as you maintain the same LVM structure in partitioning, and you can retain files if do not choose to reformat the logical volume for '/home' Just be sure to back /home up before you start. It may take a little time, but

Re: Reinstall over LVM

2013-08-26 Thread Rejy M Cyriac
On 08/27/2013 10:17 AM, Roger wrote: On 27/08/13 14:04, Rejy M Cyriac wrote: On 08/27/2013 08:04 AM, Roger wrote: Is it possible to do a re installation of Fedora 19 where the file system is LVM on a 2nd partition on my hard drive without losing files in the /home directory structure? There

Re: Another amusing bug

2013-08-26 Thread Martin S
On Tuesday, August 27, 2013 12:32:50 PM Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 26 August 2013, g sent: showing our age, are we not. ;=) No point acquiring it if you can't show it off... ;-) Though, in my defence, I'll say that I didn't get to see them the first time around. Dr Who is