Re: [389-users] Switching from 389-ds-base 1.2.11 to 1.3.3

2014-12-01 Thread Rich Megginson
On 11/27/2014 12:47 PM, Fong, Trevor wrote: Hi Again Everyone, Looking at other threads on this group, it looks like for EL6, only 1.2.11 is available. Correct. And just to be clear, 1.2.11 is not going to be discontinued - only the 1.2.11 COPR repos are going to be discontinued. Updates

Re: grub : how to edit grub config by command / script ?

2014-12-01 Thread santosh
Thanks to all of you for responses. Now I am able to do the required task using grubby Thanks Santosh -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct:

Re: Latest systemd news

2014-12-01 Thread Lars E. Pettersson
On 12/01/14 02:31, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Hi On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 2:48 PM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote: On 11/18/14 04:20, Rahul Sundaram wrote: user mailing list of a distribution which doesn't even use the component at all yet. Well, how long do you think

Re: how to set LC_TIME in gnome?

2014-12-01 Thread Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak
Dottore are you saying system wide settings doesn't apply to GNOME? Not sure. Is it normal for locale and localectl to report different values for LC_TIME? [mjc@xena ~]$ localectl System Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8 LC_TIME=en_DK.UTF-8 VC Keymap: us X11 Layout:

Re: Is my USB drive dying?

2014-12-01 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/01/2014 12:08 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 12/01/2014 03:12 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: /dev/sdc: Unknown USB bridge [0x059f:0x1053 (0x006)] googling for usb id 0x059f:0x1053 points to http://www.smartmontools.org/wiki/Supported_USB-Devices which indicates LaCie Porsche design

Re: Latest systemd news

2014-12-01 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 5:33 AM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote: What part(s) of the systemd suite has not been adopted by Fedora so far? What says that this component will not be adopted by fedora? Look up feature pages to understand which components have been adopted.

Re: Pleasant experience with yumex on F21 beta

2014-12-01 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 2:08 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: It's possible that your change in DE was responsible. I don't use Gnome, but by all reports it's a resource hog, and Xfce is much more light weight, and that might make the difference. It is just a speedup in yumex itself. Rahul --

Re: Latest systemd news

2014-12-01 Thread Lars E. Pettersson
On 12/01/14 15:50, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 5:33 AM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote: What part(s) of the systemd suite has not been adopted by Fedora so far? What says that this component will not be adopted by fedora? Look up feature pages to understand which components

Re: Latest systemd news

2014-12-01 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 10:49 AM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote: My question was What part(s) of the systemd suite has not been adopted. Note the not part. Yes. I understood that fine. I was pointing out which parts have been adopted so you can count the rest as not adopted. There are

GRUB setup (after using clonezilla)

2014-12-01 Thread Angelo Moreschini
Hi, I tried Clonezilla. I made an image-backup of the disk where Fedora is installed, and after I restored, on the same disk, the image that I backuped . Actually, when I boot the disk where there is the restored image,at the begin I get the prompt of the GRUB . I know that I didn't use

Re: Is my USB drive dying?

2014-12-01 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/01/2014 05:34 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: So I am working on building a replacement for this server. The system will be a Cubieboard2 running either Redsleeve6 or Fedora21. Would have been nice to have Centos7 as an option, but still no progress on the C7 arm beta. I'm not familiar with

Re: Is my USB drive dying?

2014-12-01 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/01/2014 12:47 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/01/2014 05:34 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: So I am working on building a replacement for this server. The system will be a Cubieboard2 running either Redsleeve6 or Fedora21. Would have been nice to have Centos7 as an option, but still no progress

Re: Is my USB drive dying?

2014-12-01 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/01/2014 11:09 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Centos6 port to arm. http://www.redsleeve.org/ Thank you; live and learn. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of

Re: Latest systemd news

2014-12-01 Thread Lars E. Pettersson
On 12/01/14 17:27, Rahul Sundaram wrote: There are several different components which haven't been adopted nor even proposed because they are simply not yet ready or not general purpose enough to be used by default. Well, if they are not yet ready or not general purpose enough to be used by

Re: Latest systemd news

2014-12-01 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 3:15 PM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote: The issue being discussed in this thread has nothing to do with test releases and has because of that nothing to do on the test list. It has nothing to do with the development releases (rawhide) and has because of that nothing to

Re: Latest systemd news

2014-12-01 Thread Lars E. Pettersson
On 12/01/14 21:47, Rahul Sundaram wrote: I will limit my answer to one point to keep it brief. Despite your insistence, development features that are part of upstream project but not in any Fedora release *cannot* affect Fedora users by definition Hence they are offtopic for this list. If

Ordered a new drive - Re: Is my USB drive dying?

2014-12-01 Thread Robert Moskowitz
http://www.rakuten.com/prod/wd-my-book-3-0-3-tb-external-hard-drive-usb-3-0-desktop/252424114.html?scid=em_Promotional_20141201MON2adid=28892 $70 for 3TB if you pay with paypal. Plus about $5 shipping. Best deal I was finding for 2TB was $65 on ebay. I have bought a number of items through

Re: Latest systemd news

2014-12-01 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 4:04 PM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote: As systemd is (a huge) part of Fedora, and what we discuss is a new feature in systemd, it will, eventually, That is by no means a good assumption but even if you take that assumption as a given, it is not a good justification.

Re: GRUB setup (after using clonezilla)

2014-12-01 Thread Chris Murphy
On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 9:31 AM, Angelo Moreschini mrangelo.fed...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I tried Clonezilla. I made an image-backup of the disk where Fedora is installed, and after I restored, on the same disk, the image that I backuped . Actually, when I boot the disk where there is the

Re: Latest systemd news

2014-12-01 Thread Lars E. Pettersson
On 12/01/14 22:13, Rahul Sundaram wrote: In a similar way, development branches of systemd has its own mailing list for discussing such functionality called systemd-devel list. Use that list if you are so keen on discussing development branches of systemd. I am keen on discussing how new

Re: Latest systemd news

2014-12-01 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 4:25 PM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote: I am keen on discussing how new features in systemd (or any other packages used by Fedora for that matter) will affect the users of Fedora. The best place for that is this users list. By that account why would rawhide or test

Re: Latest systemd news

2014-12-01 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, Dec 01, 2014 at 04:32:49PM -0500, Rahul Sundaram wrote: I am keen on discussing how new features in systemd (or any other packages used by Fedora for that matter) will affect the users of Fedora. The best place for that is this users list. By that account why would rawhide or test

Re: GRUB setup (after using clonezilla)

2014-12-01 Thread Chris Murphy
On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 2:20 PM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote: On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 9:31 AM, Angelo Moreschini mrangelo.fed...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I tried Clonezilla. I made an image-backup of the disk where Fedora is installed, and after I restored, on the same disk, the

Re: Latest systemd news

2014-12-01 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 4:56 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: If the thread goes off the rails and outside of the scope of community assistance, encouragement, and advice — not to mention the Friends foundation — that's a different story. I would suggest that the thread is off the rails long time

Re: Latest systemd news

2014-12-01 Thread Dave Ihnat
On Mon, Dec 01, 2014 at 07:00:39PM -0500, Rahul Sundaram wrote: I would suggest that the thread is off the rails long time back and not enforcing the list guidelines and keeping the list on topic leads to us, unable to point our own users to the list for help because they have to wade through

Re: Latest systemd news

2014-12-01 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 7:23 PM, Dave Ihnat wrote: Just telling them to shut up, out of scope seems a bad idea. Good thing nobody did that then, right? With all due respect, you can't argue against your own made up quote. As to the question of response from Red Hat, in case you

Re: Latest systemd news

2014-12-01 Thread Dave Ihnat
On Mon, Dec 01, 2014 at 07:55:51PM -0500, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Good thing nobody did that then, right? Well, that's good. With all due respect, you can't argue against your own made up quote. (Hands up), no arguing. Ranting about ... Excuse me; I worked very hard to *not* rant. It

Better tools needed - Re: Latest systemd news

2014-12-01 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/01/2014 07:23 PM, Dave Ihnat wrote: On Mon, Dec 01, 2014 at 07:00:39PM -0500, Rahul Sundaram wrote: I would suggest that the thread is off the rails long time back and not enforcing the list guidelines and keeping the list on topic leads to us, unable to point our own users to the list

Re: Latest systemd news

2014-12-01 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 8:08 PM, Dave Ihnat wrote: Ranting about ... Excuse me; I worked very hard to *not* rant. Sure. I wasn't referring to your post. Your effort is appreciated. It intended to be, and I believe was, a reasoned and rational attempt to explain why someone would

Re: Better tools needed - Re: Latest systemd news

2014-12-01 Thread Rahul Sundaram
HI On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 8:17 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Perhaps at some point we will get better tools for using systemd. Thanks for bringing in something useful to the discussion that I can address: I mean compare: systemctl restart sshd.service with service sshd restart Is there

Re: Latest systemd news

2014-12-01 Thread Dave Ihnat
On Mon, Dec 01, 2014 at 08:19:47PM -0500, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Sure. I wasn't referring to your post. Your effort is appreciated. Ah; thank you. I really am tired of drama, and try not to contribute. I don't disagree with all that. I do disagree that the current approach taken in the

Re: Better tools needed - Re: Latest systemd news

2014-12-01 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/01/2014 08:23 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: HI On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 8:17 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Perhaps at some point we will get better tools for using systemd. Thanks for bringing in something useful to the discussion that I can address: I mean compare:

Re: Better tools needed - Re: Latest systemd news

2014-12-01 Thread Rahul Sundaram
HI On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 8:31 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: And the list is hugh compared to what services are really up to user control. I mean listed items like: Yes that list is larger because systemd does allow you to control more than sysvinit does directly. Try it out Oh, and that

Re: Latest systemd news

2014-12-01 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 8:31 PM, Dave Ihnat wrote: I agree, but I will point out that incorporating systemd is an...extremely controversial...decision. And, the entire arena seems to be fraught with extreme opinions. Couple that with the fact that many here seem not to have known it

Re: Latest systemd news

2014-12-01 Thread Dave Ihnat
On Mon, Dec 01, 2014 at 08:45:28PM -0500, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Well, it was originally meant to be default in Fedora 14 and there were many discussions about it. it is been years since that point. Perhaps people didn't pay attention to it and didn't realize it but it wasn't snuck in when

Re: Latest systemd news

2014-12-01 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 9:01 PM, Dave Ihnat wrote: That is intensely needed. I think either new material explaining exactly why systemd is needed, and good, is critical. If it already exists, collected pointers are just as good (if not better) There are dozens of references about half

Re: Latest systemd news

2014-12-01 Thread Dave Ihnat
Just to point out how explosive the systemd issue is in the Linux community, note that Debian has been forked just beause of this: https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20141127.212941.f55acc3a.en.html Yes, I know, this isn't Fedora. But if it's that controversial that an enire distro will

Re: Latest systemd news

2014-12-01 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 9:14 PM, Dave Ihnat wrote: Just to point out how explosive the systemd issue is in the Linux community, note that Debian has been forked just beause of this: https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20141127.212941.f55acc3a.en.html Yes, I know, this isn't Fedora.

Re: Latest systemd news

2014-12-01 Thread Gary Hodder
On Mon, 2014-12-01 at 20:14 -0600, Dave Ihnat wrote: Just to point out how explosive the systemd issue is in the Linux community, note that Debian has been forked just beause of this: https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20141127.212941.f55acc3a.en.html Thanks for the link, not all

Re: Better tools needed - Re: Latest systemd news

2014-12-01 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/01/2014 05:17 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Then there was good old 'chkconfig' that produced a nice tablular report of services that can be controlled. I have yet to find anything close to this with systemd. systemctl list-unit-files -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: GRUB setup (after using clonezilla)

2014-12-01 Thread Angelo Moreschini
Hi Chris I can not tell you from where comes the grub prompt, because it came, to me, by chance. But if I type help, then comes a long list of commands, including 'l' ... However, I can not nor to print this list and even I cannot read it, because I can not stop the scroll of the screen.