Re: Rebuilding a failing drive

2016-11-21 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/21/2016 05:21 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Given that I am experiencing I/O errors, it would seem that a dd is not advisable. I can dd the boot portion onto a new drive, I can build the partitions on a new drive. I can boot the system with a live CD. What is a good way to move the OS and

Re: Down(up)grading from desktop to server

2016-11-21 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/21/2016 09:00 PM, Robin Laing wrote: I have an old desktop that is being re-purposed to a file server. What is the best procedure with F25 coming out. Presently running F23. As a desktop, it was dual purpose but now will be just a file server. Is it better to just remove the extra packa

Re: FTP on 32 bit machines not working?

2016-11-21 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/22/16 13:23, Michael D. Setzer II wrote: > I am aware of that, and had the same problem, but got around it by setting > the min and max ports in the vsftpd.conf and opening those ports. > > Until a little before 5pm yesterday when I did and dnf update on a 32 bit > system the ftp was work

Re: FTP on 32 bit machines not working?

2016-11-21 Thread Michael D. Setzer II
I am aware of that, and had the same problem, but got around it by setting the min and max ports in the vsftpd.conf and opening those ports. Until a little before 5pm yesterday when I did and dnf update on a 32 bit system the ftp was working just fine. Have a monitor program that checks the sta

Re: grub recovery

2016-11-21 Thread Robin Laing
On 20/11/16 20:19, Tod Merley wrote: The grub command line shell affords you the opportunity to find out what has happened. But you need to take the time to learn how to use it. I think it would be well worth your time for you and for us. Then we know what happened. You are booting to grub.

Down(up)grading from desktop to server

2016-11-21 Thread Robin Laing
I have an old desktop that is being re-purposed to a file server. What is the best procedure with F25 coming out. Presently running F23. sudo dnf system-upgrade download --refresh --releasever=25 As a desktop, it was dual purpose but now will be just a file server. Is it better to just remo

Re: FTP on 32 bit machines not working?

2016-11-21 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/22/16 08:17, Michael D. Setzer II wrote: > I just noticed after the recent updates that ftp doesn't work on two of the > 32 > bit systems. Seems to be fine on the 64 bit machines?? > > The nf_conntrack seems to not be there at all. > If I disable firewalld and actually add port 21 like th

Re: Using John to crack a password

2016-11-21 Thread geo.inbox.ignored
On 11/21/2016 02:25 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > I have a running system that I have forgotten the root password. I > really do not want to take down the system, go through the steps to boot > up in single user mode and change the password. > > I just happen to have used the same password on

Re: Using John to crack a password

2016-11-21 Thread Fred Smith
On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 08:07:26PM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 03:25:40PM -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > > Well john has been working for 20 hours (one cpu pegged at 100%). I > > did not think the password was that complex! > > Without using cloud resources or multipl

Re: Rebuilding a failing drive

2016-11-21 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 11/21/2016 08:32 PM, Fred Smith wrote: On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 08:21:01AM -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I have a 1TB drive that is getting I/O errors enough that while I was out of the country, it hung and my wife was NOT happy. So it is time to replace it. And with a 2TB file. This is

Re: Using John to crack a password

2016-11-21 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 11/21/2016 07:44 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: On 11/21/2016 04:33 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: The stupid build for this system has no sudo installed! First thing I fix once I recover the password... john has been running for 35 hrs. Uhm, running a cracker for 35 hours is more efficient than r

Re: Rebuilding a failing drive

2016-11-21 Thread Fred Smith
On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 08:21:01AM -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > I have a 1TB drive that is getting I/O errors enough that while I > was out of the country, it hung and my wife was NOT happy. So it is > time to replace it. And with a 2TB file. > > This is a server with the drive as EXT4, boot

Re: Using John to crack a password

2016-11-21 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 03:25:40PM -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > Well john has been working for 20 hours (one cpu pegged at 100%). I > did not think the password was that complex! Without using cloud resources or multiple GPUs, these programs are really going to be effective with older -- and

Re: Using John to crack a password

2016-11-21 Thread fred roller
Hate to say it but you could have booted to a live disk and reset the password by now, unless the drive is encrypted... Just an interesting problem at this point. Still worth pursuing for the "can it be done" value IMO. ___ users mailing list -- users@li

Re: Using John to crack a password

2016-11-21 Thread Alchemist
If you want no downtime, use sucrack+john. Take https://labs.portcullis.co.uk/download/sucrack-1.2.3.tar.gz and https://github.com/magnumripper/JohnTheRipper Compile and run as folows ./john -min-len=8 -max-len=12 -mask="password?d" --stdout | SUCRACK_AUTH_FAILURE="su: Authentication failure" ./s

Re: Using John to crack a password

2016-11-21 Thread Rick Stevens
On 11/21/2016 04:33 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > The stupid build for this system has no sudo installed! > > First thing I fix once I recover the password... > > john has been running for 35 hrs. Uhm, running a cracker for 35 hours is more efficient than rebooting off a CD in rescue mode, mount

Re: Using John to crack a password

2016-11-21 Thread Robert Moskowitz
The stupid build for this system has no sudo installed! First thing I fix once I recover the password... john has been running for 35 hrs. On 11/21/2016 07:03 PM, fred roller wrote: Is the user in the sudo group? ___ users mailing list -- users@lis

FTP on 32 bit machines not working?

2016-11-21 Thread Michael D. Setzer II
I just noticed after the recent updates that ftp doesn't work on two of the 32 bit systems. Seems to be fine on the 64 bit machines?? The nf_conntrack seems to not be there at all. If I disable firewalld and actually add port 21 like the port 22 in the iptables the ftp connection works, otherwi

Re: problem with custom partitioning installing 32-bit F25

2016-11-21 Thread fred roller
On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 12:38 PM, Kari Koskinen wrote: > (Partitioning is not something I'm familiar with or good at.) >> > set up a virtual machine and practice. It is easy to assign mount points to existing partitions once you have done it a time or two through the custom install route. __

Re: Using John to crack a password

2016-11-21 Thread fred roller
Is the user in the sudo group? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Using John to crack a password

2016-11-21 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2016-11-21 at 13:12 -0800, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 11/21/2016 01:06 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > > > > Um, how to I get the REAL /etc/passwd file from the system when logged > > in as a regular user? Yeah, I did things like this back in the days > > before /etc/shadow, but since then... >

Re: Using John to crack a password

2016-11-21 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/21/2016 01:06 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Um, how to I get the REAL /etc/passwd file from the system when logged in as a regular user? Yeah, I did things like this back in the days before /etc/shadow, but since then... Ah! I'd forgotten about that. Maybe copy both?

Re: Backing up the OS - Re: Rebuilding a failing drive

2016-11-21 Thread Michael D. Setzer II
A couple of things that might work. I have maintained the g4l disk imaging project since 2004, and it's main options use dd to either clone a disk/partition or make an image file, but it would also have issues with bad sectors. But I have sometimes found that booting to it rather than the runnin

Re: Using John to crack a password

2016-11-21 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 11/21/2016 03:54 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/21/2016 12:25 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I have a running system that I have forgotten the root password. I really do not want to take down the system, go through the steps to boot up in single user mode and change the password. I just happen to

Re: Using John to crack a password

2016-11-21 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/21/2016 12:25 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I have a running system that I have forgotten the root password. I really do not want to take down the system, go through the steps to boot up in single user mode and change the password. I just happen to have used the same password on a test syst

Using John to crack a password

2016-11-21 Thread Robert Moskowitz
I have a running system that I have forgotten the root password. I really do not want to take down the system, go through the steps to boot up in single user mode and change the password. I just happen to have used the same password on a test system, so I was able to copy the /etc/passwd, edi

Backing up the OS - Re: Rebuilding a failing drive

2016-11-21 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 11/21/2016 01:42 PM, George N. White III wrote: On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 12:59 PM, Robert Moskowitz mailto:r...@htt-consult.com>> wrote: On 11/21/2016 09:20 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 08:21:01AM -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I have a 1TB d

Re: New kernels won't boot

2016-11-21 Thread David A. De Graaf
On 11/21/16 12:16, Rick Stevens wrote: On 11/20/2016 03:43 PM, Jeffrey Ross wrote: On 11/10/2016 04:24 PM, David A. De Graaf wrote: My trusty old IBM T30 laptop will no longer boot with the latest kernel-4.7.9-200.fc24.i686 kernel-4.8.4-200.fc24.i686 kernel-PAE-4.8.4-200.fc24.i6

Re: Rebuilding a failing drive

2016-11-21 Thread George N. White III
On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 12:59 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > > > On 11/21/2016 09:20 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: > >> On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 08:21:01AM -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: >> >>> I have a 1TB drive that is getting I/O errors enough that while I >>> What is a good way to move the OS and

Re: problem with custom partitioning installing 32-bit F25

2016-11-21 Thread Kari Koskinen
2016-11-21 0:14 GMT+02:00 Andre Robatino : > > Use a Live version of GParted to do your partitioning first, then > install. > > The machine currently has a clean install of F24 (dual-boot with Windows). > Normally, the installer makes me delete the existing Fedora partitions to > free up space, th

Re: clusterssh

2016-11-21 Thread Rick Stevens
On 11/21/2016 06:03 AM, bruce wrote: > Hey Rick (and any others with thoughts!) > > Starting to fire up clusterSSH/cssh > > Couple of things.. > > 1) The app actually fires up sep xterm/term window sessions! So > looking at X windows is going to take up space! might need a sep > monitor! > > 2)

Re: New kernels won't boot

2016-11-21 Thread Rick Stevens
On 11/20/2016 03:43 PM, Jeffrey Ross wrote: > > > On 11/10/2016 04:24 PM, David A. De Graaf wrote: >> >> My trusty old IBM T30 laptop will no longer boot with the latest >> kernel-4.7.9-200.fc24.i686 >> kernel-4.8.4-200.fc24.i686 >> kernel-PAE-4.8.4-200.fc24.i686 >> It will still boot

Re: Rebuilding a failing drive

2016-11-21 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 11/21/2016 09:20 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 08:21:01AM -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I have a 1TB drive that is getting I/O errors enough that while I What is a good way to move the OS and all the data? I used Clonezilla some many years ago, but that does not seem

Re: Recover from unintended dd

2016-11-21 Thread Robert Nichols
On 11/20/2016 11:52 PM, Kalpa Welivitigoda wrote: Hi all, I wanted to create a live install media from by flash drive using dd. Following is the command I used, sudo dd bs=4M if=Fedora-Live-Desktop-x86_64-19-1.iso of=/dev/sdc1 The sad part is /dev/sdc1 happened to be my external hard disk (I w

Re: how to correctly log without journald (and its blobs)?

2016-11-21 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 7:12 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > > So that said, if you really want a journald-free system based on > Fedora, you might try uselessd, a "minimized" fork of system. > http://uselessd.darknedgy.net/. We don't include it, but you might be > able to create a Fedora Remix which

Re: Rebuilding a failing drive

2016-11-21 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 08:21:01AM -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > I have a 1TB drive that is getting I/O errors enough that while I > What is a good way to move the OS and all the data? I used > Clonezilla some many years ago, but that does not seem to be the way > to go when there are bad sect

Re: Recover from unintended dd

2016-11-21 Thread William Oliver
On Mon, 2016-11-21 at 07:26 -0500, fred roller wrote: > On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 6:30 AM, Sam Varshavchik om> wrote: > > > Any help/clue to get the hard disk recovered is highly > > > appreciated. > > > > >   > > For a full recovery you can research some advance software which > *may* rebuild.  T

clusterssh

2016-11-21 Thread bruce
Hey Rick (and any others with thoughts!) Starting to fire up clusterSSH/cssh Couple of things.. 1) The app actually fires up sep xterm/term window sessions! So looking at X windows is going to take up space! might need a sep monitor! 2) I saw that the app has a "launcher" from the desktop/gnome

Re: Rebuilding a failing drive

2016-11-21 Thread fred roller
On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 8:49 AM, Dave Ihnat wrote: > Likely not, but you _can_ try ddrescue. > ddrescue would be an excellent option. Also, if the I/O's errors are consistent sectors then perhaps you can "fsck" the disk to repair the bad sectors to buy you enough time to format a new disk and d

Re: Rebuilding a failing drive

2016-11-21 Thread Dave Ihnat
On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 08:21:01AM -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > Given that I am experiencing I/O errors, it would seem that a dd is > not advisable. Likely not, but you _can_ try ddrescue. G'luck, -- Dave Ihnat dih...@dminet.com ___

Rebuilding a failing drive

2016-11-21 Thread Robert Moskowitz
I have a 1TB drive that is getting I/O errors enough that while I was out of the country, it hung and my wife was NOT happy. So it is time to replace it. And with a 2TB file. This is a server with the drive as EXT4, boot partitions, swap partition, and a few data (/boot, /, etc.) partitions.

Re: problem with custom partitioning installing 32-bit F25

2016-11-21 Thread fred roller
> Is there any fairly easy way to achieve this without custom partitioning in the installer? My experience has been that any distro will work with existing partitions ( I had a /Crypt partition which needed mounting install to install plus custom lay out). Use gparted, or somesuch in your f24 bui

Re: fc23 python2-cryptography

2016-11-21 Thread John Pilkington
On 21/11/16 11:59, John Pilkington wrote: On 21/11/16 11:45, John Pilkington wrote: yumex-dnf shows 1.5.3-3 as an update, but has errors in building the transaction. I don't have an earlier version installed. ? ... but I do have python-cryptography 1.2.1-1 Bz 1361916 - note added 'Softwa

Re: Recover from unintended dd

2016-11-21 Thread fred roller
On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 6:30 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Any help/clue to get the hard disk recovered is highly appreciated. >> > For a full recovery you can research some advance software which *may* rebuild. The names escape me atm but it does exists and you need to be comfortable with some a

Re: fc23 python2-cryptography

2016-11-21 Thread John Pilkington
On 21/11/16 11:45, John Pilkington wrote: yumex-dnf shows 1.5.3-3 as an update, but has errors in building the transaction. I don't have an earlier version installed. ? ... but I do have python-cryptography 1.2.1-1 Bz 1361916 John P ___ users ma

fc23 python2-cryptography

2016-11-21 Thread John Pilkington
yumex-dnf shows 1.5.3-3 as an update, but has errors in building the transaction. I don't have an earlier version installed. ? John P ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproj

Re: problem with custom partitioning installing 32-bit F25

2016-11-21 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 20 November 2016, Andre Robatino sent: > My understanding that after Branched reaches Beta, it's acceptable to > ask on the user list My understanding was that on this user list, you discuss the current releases, only. Anything that's not a current (normal public) release

Re: Ktorrent problem

2016-11-21 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 20 November 2016, jd1008 sent: > FYI. > > Quiting ktorrent does not cause ktorrent to exit. > After I quit, I run ps -ef | grep ktorrent > and it is still running long after I quit. *How* are you quitting it? While I'm not familiar with that particular client, some torren

Re: Recover from unintended dd

2016-11-21 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Kalpa Welivitigoda writes: Hi all, I wanted to create a live install media from by flash drive using dd. Following is the command I used, sudo dd bs=4M if=Fedora-Live-Desktop-x86_64-19-1.iso of=/dev/sdc1 The sad part is /dev/sdc1 happened to be my external hard disk (I wanted to write th

Re: problem with custom partitioning installing 32-bit F25

2016-11-21 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2016-11-21 at 01:15 +, Andre Robatino wrote: > I'm not absolutely sure. It's definitely the policy on IRC with #fedora where > /topic currently says "Fedora 23, 24, 25 Beta end-user support". I never use IRC. No special reason, I just don't. I was going to consult the Intro text for

Re: NPAPI Plugins and Firefox

2016-11-21 Thread Stephen Morris
On 16/11/16 08:41, Rick Stevens wrote: On 11/15/2016 12:56 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: Hi, I'm currently using Nightly V53 of Firefox and a lot of the plugins provided by Fedora that I have installed Firefox refuses to use, this included the Gnome Shell Integration plugin. It appears that as

Re: Racket & Fedora

2016-11-21 Thread Saša Janiška
Antonio M writes: > http://cha1tanya.com/2013/06/05/installing-racket-on-fedora.html Thanks. Sincerely, Gour -- The intricacies of action are very hard to understand. Therefore one should know properly what action is, what forbidden action is, and what inaction is. __