Re: dual boot Windows10 fedora28

2018-06-02 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 06/02/2018 11:03 AM, peterlesterh...@telfort.nl wrote: So far so good. I can boot into Windows as well as Fedora. Now I want to have /home, /usr/ and/ /tmp on the HDD drive, which I intend to use as data-drive. I created a mountpoint for the new partition of the HDD drive (sudo mkdir

Re: mdadm raid1 lost (my fault)

2018-06-02 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 06/02/2018 06:51 PM, page p wrote: the two drives can be seen, are part of an array and a hexdump says that they are still XFS but i can not get luks to open the array. If it is supposed to be a LUKS device, then you should not be able to see the XFS filesystem. Can you show us the exact

Re: F28 - Today's updates messed up writing to USB

2018-06-02 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 06/02/2018 02:28 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Also, I usually have a VM running (Windows 10) that I prefer not to have to restart just because I updated one of Linux's libraries that the VM doesn't depend on. This might even mean restarting my desktop session, which I can do without the VM

Re: Where is tracer

2018-06-02 Thread Ed Greshko
On 06/03/18 11:37, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > So I decided to look into tracer. > > When I did my system build I did a 'dnf list > dnf.lst' to get a listing of > all > rpms in the repos (at least at that point it time). I have found this an easy > way > to go look for things of interest.  So I

Where is tracer

2018-06-02 Thread Robert Moskowitz
So I decided to look into tracer. When I did my system build I did a 'dnf list > dnf.lst' to get a listing of all rpms in the repos (at least at that point it time). I have found this an easy way to go look for things of interest.  So I did: # grep tracer dnf.lst traceroute.x86_64

Re: F28 - Today's updates messed up writing to USB

2018-06-02 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 06/02/2018 12:45 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 06/01/2018 09:32 PM, John Morris wrote: On Fri, 2018-06-01 at 11:30 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: You did online updates?  This is the reason why offline updates is the default now, because doing updates without a reboot can cause weird situations

Re: 4% battery; dpesn't suspend

2018-06-02 Thread Chris Murphy
Huh. So when hybrid suspend+hibernate happened, I had a randomly encrypted swap setup. So this obviously can't ever be recovered from, because the key is lost. Well, actually the key is in the image on encrypted swap. So the only copy of the key is encrypted. Ha. Anyway, after setting up an

HP Omen with F28 chromium fails to run under optirun

2018-06-02 Thread Wade Hampton
I have a HP Omen laptop with Optimus (Intel + Nvidia). Bumblebee is installed and optirun works for glxgears and glxspheres64, however I can not get it to work for Chrome or Chromium. Any ideas? I am running the Nvidia drivers from rpmfusion (the others did not work). Note I had to fix the

mdadm raid1 lost (my fault)

2018-06-02 Thread page p
Hi, I have two drives in a raid 1 configuration and used luks crypt on the raid once created. today i wanted to change the device number from 127 to 0 and can no longer open the array as luks says it is not a valid device. what i did was: $ mdadm --stop /dev/md127 $ mdadm --create

Re: F28 - Today's updates messed up writing to USB

2018-06-02 Thread Ed Greshko
On 06/03/18 09:30, Tim via users wrote: > Allegedly, on or about 3 June 2018, Ed Greshko sent: >> Oh, and let's not forget the times (twice in recent memory) where >> updates to KDE Plasma resulted in not being able to logout or even >> reboot from the menus. In that case one needed to know about

Re: F28 - Today's updates messed up writing to USB

2018-06-02 Thread Tim via users
Allegedly, on or about 3 June 2018, Ed Greshko sent: > Oh, and let's not forget the times (twice in recent memory) where > updates to KDE Plasma resulted in not being able to logout or even > reboot from the menus. In that case one needed to know about "init > 6". :-) :-) While some will argue

Re: 4% battery; dpesn't suspend

2018-06-02 Thread Chris Murphy
OK so I've run into this also on Fedora 28. (This is with the "sick" battery that Windows says is OK, and HP's battery checker says is OK. And yet at 18% battery and 45 minutes remaining it goes into "hibernation"). So what Fedora is doing is hybrid sleep. Jun 02 15:11:33 f28h.local systemd[1]:

Re: 4% battery; dpesn't suspend

2018-06-02 Thread Tim via users
Allegedly, on or about 31 May 2018, sent: >> The usual method of hibernating is to dump the memory into the swap >> partition. I do not know what will happen if your swap partition >> is smaller than your RAM, though. Wolfgang Pfeiffer: > 32 GB of RAM here, swap space is just ~16 GB: my guess

Re: F28 - Today's updates messed up writing to USB

2018-06-02 Thread Ed Greshko
On 06/03/18 05:43, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > As has been said, this is an ongoing debate. Linux follows Unix in not > forcing you to reboot except when switching to a new kernel (though > rebooting if glibc changes is strongly encouraged). Running apps will > continue to use old libraries even

Re: F28 - Today's updates messed up writing to USB

2018-06-02 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2018-06-02 at 18:49 +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: > On Sat, Jun 02, 2018 at 09:17:36AM -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > > On 06/02/2018 08:44 AM, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: > > > See: 2001 or so unless you had upgraded to a new gblic there wasn't a > > > need to reboot Linux machines. Most of

Re: F28 - Today's updates messed up writing to USB

2018-06-02 Thread Ed Greshko
On 06/02/18 23:57, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Sam seems to suggest that rebooting is the only way to be sure of > avoiding problems. I'm wondering if he's discounting the use of tracer > as a way to do this more selectively, and if so is it because he thinks > tracer is unreliable? The one

Re: F28 - Today's updates messed up writing to USB

2018-06-02 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2018-06-02 at 09:17 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 06/02/2018 08:44 AM, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: > > See: 2001 or so unless you had upgraded to a new gblic there wasn't a > > need to reboot Linux machines. Most of the times it was enough to log > > in/out of your X. And that was it. And

Re: dual boot Windows10 fedora28

2018-06-02 Thread Ahmad Samir
On 2 June 2018 at 20:03, peterlesterh...@telfort.nl wrote: > Hi, > > I purchased an Asus laptop with 2 hard drives (SSD 256 GB and HDD 1 TB). > Windows10 was preinstalled on the SSD and the HDD drive is used for data. > > I wanted to install fedora alongside Windows. > So I shrinked the partition

Re: dual boot Windows10 fedora28

2018-06-02 Thread stan
On Sat, 2 Jun 2018 20:03:59 +0200 (CEST) "peterlesterh...@telfort.nl" wrote: > Hi, > I purchased an Asus laptop with 2 hard drives (SSD 256 GB and HDD 1 > TB). Windows10 was preinstalled on the SSD and the HDD drive is used > for data. I wanted to install fedora alongside Windows. > So I

dual boot Windows10 fedora28

2018-06-02 Thread peterlesterh...@telfort.nl
Hi, I purchased an Asus laptop with 2 hard drives (SSD 256 GB and HDD 1 TB). Windows10 was preinstalled on the SSD and the HDD drive is used for data. I wanted to install fedora alongside Windows. So I shrinked the partition on the SSD drive (sdb) and also the partition on the HDD drive (sda).

Re: F28 - Today's updates messed up writing to USB

2018-06-02 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
On Sat, Jun 02, 2018 at 09:17:36AM -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 06/02/2018 08:44 AM, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: > > See: 2001 or so unless you had upgraded to a new gblic there wasn't a > > need to reboot Linux machines. Most of the times it was enough to log > > in/out of your X. And that was it.

Re: F28 - Today's updates messed up writing to USB

2018-06-02 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 06/02/2018 08:44 AM, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: See: 2001 or so unless you had upgraded to a new gblic there wasn't a need to reboot Linux machines. Most of the times it was enough to log in/out of your X. And that was it. And that approach was, AFAICS, what John Morris probably was referring

Re: F28 - Today's updates messed up writing to USB

2018-06-02 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 06/02/2018 08:57 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Sam seems to suggest that rebooting is the only way to be sure of avoiding problems. I'm wondering if he's discounting the use of tracer as a way to do this more selectively, and if so is it because he thinks tracer is unreliable? It is the

Re: web browser that will support java plugin(openjdk/icedtea)

2018-06-02 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 06/02/2018 06:46 AM, Dario Lesca wrote: Il giorno ven, 01/06/2018 alle 11.48 -0700, Samuel Sieb ha scritto: Yes, it's available, but the Java browser plugin is not included. If I point my firefox-60.0.1-3.fc28.x86_64 on iDRAC of a server Dell and I open the server console, icedtea-web

Re: F28 - Today's updates messed up writing to USB

2018-06-02 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2018-06-02 at 21:40 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > Seriously? This discussion comes up regularly. In most cases online > updates work, but sometimes there are issues. Read the past threads for > more info, but it's an extremely hard problem to make it always work for >

Re: F28 - Today's updates messed up writing to USB

2018-06-02 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
On Fri, Jun 01, 2018 at 09:45:50PM -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 06/01/2018 09:32 PM, John Morris wrote: > > On Fri, 2018-06-01 at 11:30 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > > > > > You did online updates? This is the reason why offline updates is the > > > default now, because doing updates without a

Re: Tip: my notes on 28's new core dump

2018-06-02 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 02 Jun 2018 09:23:35 -0400 Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Actually, it's better to manually set the ulimit in your shell. This way, if > some random process dumps core it won't spew it somewhere. Right, that is what the DefaultLimitCore change accomplishes. Without it, everything that aborts

Re: web browser that will support java plugin(openjdk/icedtea)

2018-06-02 Thread Dario Lesca
Il giorno ven, 01/06/2018 alle 11.48 -0700, Samuel Sieb ha scritto: > Yes, it's available, but the Java browser plugin is not included. If I point my firefox-60.0.1-3.fc28.x86_64 on iDRAC of a server Dell and I open the server console, icedtea-web start and all work fine. how does it happen?

Re: F28 - Today's updates messed up writing to USB

2018-06-02 Thread Ed Greshko
On 06/02/18 21:22, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Sat, 2018-06-02 at 20:03 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 06/02/18 17:09, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >>> On Fri, 2018-06-01 at 21:45 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 06/01/2018 09:32 PM, John Morris wrote: > On Fri, 2018-06-01 at 11:30 -0700,

Re: Tip: my notes on 28's new core dump

2018-06-02 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Tom Horsley writes: On Fri, 01 Jun 2018 23:15:24 -0400 Sam Varshavchik wrote: > On the machine where you do development work, and have to deal with core > dumps all the time, you can rig this to be done automatically during the > boot, and completely avoid having to deal with all that brain

Re: F28 - Today's updates messed up writing to USB

2018-06-02 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2018-06-02 at 20:03 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 06/02/18 17:09, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Fri, 2018-06-01 at 21:45 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > > > On 06/01/2018 09:32 PM, John Morris wrote: > > > > On Fri, 2018-06-01 at 11:30 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > > > > > > > > > You did

Re: Tip: my notes on 28's new core dump

2018-06-02 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 2 Jun 2018 15:04:17 +0200 Ahmad Samir wrote: > Most likely a typo, you meant 'echo' not cat. True! Thanks for the correction. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to

Re: Tip: my notes on 28's new core dump

2018-06-02 Thread Ahmad Samir
On 2 June 2018 at 14:48, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Fri, 01 Jun 2018 23:15:24 -0400 > Sam Varshavchik wrote: > >> On the machine where you do development work, and have to deal with core >> dumps all the time, you can rig this to be done automatically during the >> boot, and completely avoid having

Re: Tip: my notes on 28's new core dump

2018-06-02 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 01 Jun 2018 23:15:24 -0400 Sam Varshavchik wrote: > On the machine where you do development work, and have to deal with core > dumps all the time, you can rig this to be done automatically during the > boot, and completely avoid having to deal with all that brain damage. Permanently

Re: F28 - Today's updates messed up writing to USB

2018-06-02 Thread Ed Greshko
On 06/02/18 17:09, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Fri, 2018-06-01 at 21:45 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: >> On 06/01/2018 09:32 PM, John Morris wrote: >>> On Fri, 2018-06-01 at 11:30 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: >>> You did online updates? This is the reason why offline updates is the default

Re: F28 - Today's updates messed up writing to USB

2018-06-02 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2018-06-01 at 21:45 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 06/01/2018 09:32 PM, John Morris wrote: > > On Fri, 2018-06-01 at 11:30 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > > > > > You did online updates? This is the reason why offline updates is the > > > default now, because doing updates without a reboot

Re: web browser that will support java plugin(openjdk/icedtea)

2018-06-02 Thread andrea via users
On 01/06/18 17:08, None via users wrote: Dear Fellow Fedora Users, In light of many changes is there a web browser Fedora supported that honors the java plugins.  The new firefox does not support java like it used to .  Firefox-esr will soon deprecate the java support and we will not have