Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-21 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 10/22/18 4:13 AM, Robbi Nespu wrote: On 10/21/18 5:42 AM, stan wrote: The idea is that it would invigorate the Fedora community by encouraging younger people raised on social media and mobile platforms to contribute. Young people tend to use social media such twitter and facebook but

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-21 Thread Joe Zeff
On 10/21/2018 07:58 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 10/21/18 5:19 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 10/21/2018 05:48 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: The forums only work if you only subscribe to ONE forum and make it your browser's home page. I'm subscribed to three support forums that I check

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-21 Thread Robbi Nespu
On 10/21/18 5:42 AM, stan wrote: > The idea is that > it would invigorate the Fedora community by encouraging younger people > raised on social media and mobile platforms to contribute. Young people tend to use social media such twitter and facebook but having forum board would be fun too. It

Re: Install / as RAID 0

2018-10-21 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 10/21/18 5:03 PM, Richard Shaw wrote: Got Fedora 28 LXDE installed and setting up the RAID 0 with bivlet was pretty easy. Since it's more or less a throw away system I went ahead I just want to point out that the actual name is "blivet". And if you look up the definition of that word,

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-21 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 10/21/18 5:19 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 10/21/2018 05:48 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: The forums only work if you only subscribe to ONE forum and make it your browser's home page. I'm subscribed to three support forums that I check pretty much daily and none of them are my browser's

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-21 Thread George N. White III
On Sat, 20 Oct 2018 at 19:01, stan wrote: > Hi, > There's a big mail thread on fedora-devel about using a web forum > software called Discourse instead of mailing lists. The idea is that > it would invigorate the Fedora community by encouraging younger people > raised on social media and mobile

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-21 Thread Joe Zeff
On 10/21/2018 05:48 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: The forums only work if you only subscribe to ONE forum and make it your browser's home page. I'm subscribed to three support forums that I check pretty much daily and none of them are my browser's home page. You may need that constant

Re: Install / as RAID 0

2018-10-21 Thread Richard Shaw
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 10:58 AM Doug H. wrote: > > Before deleting the tests I happened to notice that my first "custom" > install did not actually use the full available space on the two drives > for the root partition. This seems to be due to selecting the size > before setting it to raid0.

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-21 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 10/20/18 3:57 PM, Fulko Hew wrote: On Sat, Oct 20, 2018 at 6:35 PM Mike Wright > wrote: On 10/20/18 3:17 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Sat, 20 Oct 2018 14:42:20 -0700 > stan wrote: > >> I'm wondering how the people who regularly

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-21 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 10/20/18 3:17 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Sat, 20 Oct 2018 14:42:20 -0700 stan wrote: I'm wondering how the people who regularly use fedora-users mailing list feel about that. There is already a fedoraforum which I don't use at all because I despise forums because they are nothing like as

Re: Log programs

2018-10-21 Thread Mike Chambers
On Sun, 2018-10-21 at 14:12 -0700, stan wrote: > > Seems you are right based on those tickets, epylog is a victim of the > EOL for python2. There are python2-pygpgme and python3-pygpgme > packages that could be used for the dependency. So you could try > uninstalling pygpgme and installing

Re: kernel: Failed to load gpu_info firmware

2018-10-21 Thread Allan
Hi Suvayu... > Hello, > [..] >amdgpu :06:00.0: Direct firmware load for amdgpu/raven_gpu_info.bin > failed with error -2 > I have had the same fight with AMDGPU-PRO drivers on Centos. The problem is that

Re: Wifi Connection in F28 KDE Timing out Waiting for Kwallet Password?

2018-10-21 Thread Ed Greshko
On 10/22/18 5:57 AM, Stephen Morris wrote: > It might be worth noting that I am not using pam_kwallet or possibly kwallet > either (as > neither of those are installed), I am using kwalletmanager5. There is no connection between pam-kwallet (note you wrote pam_kwallet) and kwalletmanager5.

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-21 Thread Marcel J.E. Mol
On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 12:20:14PM -0600, Peter Reed wrote: > > Hello, > > Short answer: no. > > Longer answer: > I have been using the Fedora mailing lists since Fedora Core 2. I have > spent time setting up mail programs to sort all incoming email lists > into nice, neat categories that are

Re: Wifi Connection in F28 KDE Timing out Waiting for Kwallet Password?

2018-10-21 Thread Stephen Morris
On 22/10/18 7:42 am, Stephen Morris wrote: On 17/10/18 6:33 am, Rex Dieter wrote: Ed Greshko wrote: On 10/16/18 7:58 PM, Rex Dieter wrote: Ed Greshko wrote: my login pw is the same as my wallet pw and I'm still prompted for the kwallet pw on login. Interesting, that should be all that is

Re: Can't play .mov video -

2018-10-21 Thread Stephen Morris
On 16/10/18 3:25 pm, Ed Greshko wrote: On 10/16/18 12:05 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: Ok, so it tries the DVD first and then falls back to playing whatever it finds.  I've never tried that before. Yeah, I hadn't tried that before either.  I was a bit surprised. And/or maybe just "file *" in the

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-21 Thread Joe Zeff
On 10/21/2018 03:25 PM, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: Haven't found who wrote the code for the site, yet - but whoever did it: compliments: Minimal js - Signing in with, IIRC, a google account, FB etc. seems being no effort ... They're using the Askbot code from askbot.org. It keeps all of the

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-21 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 10/21/18 2:25 PM, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 01:05:57PM -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: https://ask.fedoraproject.org/ Wow - looks good. Signed up, and in. Thanks .. :) Haven't found who wrote the code for the site, yet - but whoever did it: compliments: Minimal js -

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-21 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 01:05:57PM -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: https://ask.fedoraproject.org/ Wow - looks good. Signed up, and in. Thanks .. :) Haven't found who wrote the code for the site, yet - but whoever did it: compliments: Minimal js - Signing in with, IIRC, a google account, FB etc.

Re: Log programs

2018-10-21 Thread stan
On Sun, 21 Oct 2018 14:20:29 -0500 Mike Chambers wrote: > Got it rebuilt, but it still fails to install per same dependency. > Already filed a bug before hand. > > Bug - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1641279 > > Possibly the problem - >

Re: Wifi Connection in F28 KDE Timing out Waiting for Kwallet Password?

2018-10-21 Thread Stephen Morris
On 17/10/18 6:33 am, Rex Dieter wrote: Ed Greshko wrote: On 10/16/18 7:58 PM, Rex Dieter wrote: Ed Greshko wrote: my login pw is the same as my wallet pw and I'm still prompted for the kwallet pw on login. Interesting, that should be all that is required. Clearly something is going wrong

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-21 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 10/21/18 11:58 AM, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 11:21:16AM -0700, stan wrote: It's not surprising that those on the mailing list are so opposed to a web forum; we have all self selected as preferring email lists.  As you say, a web forum would let those who prefer web

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-21 Thread Beartooth
On Sun, 21 Oct 2018 11:21:16 -0700, stan wrote: [] > It's not surprising that those on the mailing list are so opposed to a > web forum; we have all self selected as preferring email lists. As you > say, a web forum would let those who prefer web forums have their > preference. We

Re: Log programs

2018-10-21 Thread Mike Chambers
On Sun, 2018-10-21 at 10:40 -0700, stan wrote: > On Sun, 21 Oct 2018 11:23:10 -0500 > Mike Chambers wrote: > > > Epylog won't install on F29, think due to not being included/built > > for > > it, anyway it has a dep that I think has deprecated as well. > > > > Soo, what other programs do the

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-21 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 11:21:16AM -0700, stan wrote: It's not surprising that those on the mailing list are so opposed to a web forum; we have all self selected as preferring email lists. As you say, a web forum would let those who prefer web forums have their preference. We won't know how

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-21 Thread stan
On Sat, 20 Oct 2018 19:52:20 -0400 Todd Zullinger wrote: > But that said, I don't see any reason why there could not be > a users forum and an email list co-existing. Clearly, some > people prefer forums while other prefer email. Helping > users of Fedora in whatever format they prefer seems >

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-21 Thread Peter Reed
Hello, Short answer: no. Longer answer: I have been using the Fedora mailing lists since Fedora Core 2. I have spent time setting up mail programs to sort all incoming email lists into nice, neat categories that are easy to read through. They don't need a damn browser that has become a bloated

Re: Log programs

2018-10-21 Thread stan
On Sun, 21 Oct 2018 11:23:10 -0500 Mike Chambers wrote: > Epylog won't install on F29, think due to not being included/built for > it, anyway it has a dep that I think has deprecated as well. > > Soo, what other programs do the same sort of thing, that are automated > to work with cron like

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-21 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 10/20/18 11:42 PM, stan wrote: Hi, There's a big mail thread on fedora-devel about using a web forum software called Discourse instead of mailing lists. The idea is that it would invigorate the Fedora community by encouraging younger people raised on social media and mobile platforms to

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-21 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2018-10-21 at 11:15 -0400, Todd Zullinger wrote: > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Sun, 2018-10-21 at 08:16 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > > > Are you aware that is already the case for this mailing list? > > > > > >

Re: kernel: Failed to load gpu_info firmware

2018-10-21 Thread stan
On Sun, 21 Oct 2018 19:15:01 +0530 Suvayu Ali wrote: > Sorry for the late response, I wasn't monitoring the list. Not a problem. > I actually thought of what you mentioned in the other post, the > firmware making a persistent change in some register. I really don't > know how I could

Log programs

2018-10-21 Thread Mike Chambers
Epylog won't install on F29, think due to not being included/built for it, anyway it has a dep that I think has deprecated as well. Soo, what other programs do the same sort of thing, that are automated to work with cron like epylog does? -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best lil town on

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-21 Thread Bob Goodwin
. Why is it that whenever they have something that works well Linux people want to change it? This mailing list is an important feature of Fedora Linux. From my experience forums are a major step backward! Bob -- Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA http://www.qrz.com/db/W2BOD box10

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-21 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 06:35:35AM +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: On 10/21/18 5:42 AM, stan wrote: I'm wondering how the people who regularly use fedora-users mailing list feel about that. I would simply stop contributing. + 1000 Wolfgang ___ users

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-21 Thread Todd Zullinger
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Sun, 2018-10-21 at 08:16 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: >> Are you aware that is already the case for this mailing list? >> >> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org/ > > That in my view is the perfect argument for not doing this.

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-21 Thread Tim via users
On Sat, 2018-10-20 at 14:42 -0700, stan wrote: > There's a big mail thread on fedora-devel about using a web forum > software called Discourse instead of mailing lists. I won't use them, at all. I don't participate in any of them. I've looked at some when googling for answers, hated every one

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-21 Thread Joakim Forøysund
I was unfamiliar with mailing lists until I joined Fedora. I used to think it’s old fashioned until I registered. Mailing lists indeed have their strengths above forums. With mailing lists I scroll through all topics. I second what’s already said about not visiting forums. There are plenty of

Re: kernel: Failed to load gpu_info firmware

2018-10-21 Thread Suvayu Ali
Hi Stan, Sorry for the late response, I wasn't monitoring the list. I actually thought of what you mentioned in the other post, the firmware making a persistent change in some register. I really don't know how I could investigate that :-| On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 09:18:18AM -0700, stan wrote:

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-21 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Tom Horsley writes: On Sat, 20 Oct 2018 14:42:20 -0700 stan wrote: > I'm wondering how the people who regularly use fedora-users mailing > list feel about that. There is already a fedoraforum which I don't use at all because I despise forums because they are nothing like as useful as mailing

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-21 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2018-10-21 at 08:16 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 10/21/18 7:52 AM, Todd Zullinger wrote: > > But that said, I don't see any reason why there could not be > > a users forum and an email list co-existing. > > Are you aware that is already the case for this mailing list? > >

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-21 Thread ja
On Sat, 2018-10-20 at 18:59 -0400, Stephen Perkins wrote: > On Sat, Oct 20, 2018 at 6:56 PM Ed Greshko wrote: > > > > On 10/21/18 5:42 AM, stan wrote: > > > I'm wondering how the people who regularly use fedora-users mailing > > > list feel about that. > > > > I would simply stop contributing.

Re: OT: replace a timestamp across multiple files

2018-10-21 Thread Benjamin Smith
The way I've solved this in the past is to create a zone file template with "variables" in the text that are easy to find. EG: [TIMESTAMP] is where the number goes. All my zone files are managed by a script that parses the template files with values appropriate for each domain. On Wed, Oct 17,