Re: unwanted checks for updates.

2018-12-22 Thread Ed Greshko
> The problem is that now it looks to me like > apper and Software cannot be used to find to find tools and apps without > also checking for updates. Am I correct? How do I make these tools > useful for searching without them checking for updates? What desktop do you use? KDE has dnfdragor

Re: unwanted checks for updates.

2018-12-22 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 12/22/18 2:54 PM, home user via users wrote: (Samuel suggested) systemctl disable dnf-makecache.timer I did that, rebooted, and tried dnf upgrade --refresh The command was much slower starting and displaying what would be patched.  But it looked like it worked.  I did not continue with the

Re: unwanted checks for updates.

2018-12-22 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 12/22/18 10:50 AM, home user via users wrote: These confirm what Ed and Samuel say about apper and Software being dependent on PackageKit.  The problem is that now it looks to me like apper and Software cannot be used to find to find tools and apps without also checking for updates.  Am I co

Re: unwanted checks for updates.

2018-12-22 Thread home user via users
Now responding to the dnf part... (Samuel suggested) systemctl disable dnf-makecache.timer I did that, rebooted, and tried dnf upgrade --refresh The command was much slower starting and displaying what would be patched. But it looked like it worked. I did not continue with the patches, as

Re: How do I unsubscribe from the Fedora users mailing list?

2018-12-22 Thread John Pilkington
On 22/12/2018 21:50, Command FreeBSD wrote: How do I unsubscribe from the Fedora users mailing list? Every message that I get from the list includes this line: To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org ___ users mailing

Re: How do I unsubscribe from the Fedora users mailing list?

2018-12-22 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/22/2018 02:50 PM, Command FreeBSD wrote: How do I unsubscribe from the Fedora users mailing list? You just follow the instructions at the bottom of every message from the list, including this one. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedorapr

How do I unsubscribe from the Fedora users mailing list?

2018-12-22 Thread Command FreeBSD
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Re: unwanted checks for updates.

2018-12-22 Thread home user via users
I'm finally back to this. Here, I'll respond to the apper part. (Ed said) > apper is packagekit based. ... This is the first time I've > seen you mention apper. (and Samuel said) > Right. ... anything that depends on PackageKit won't work. ... > dnf does not require PackageKit, but Apper and Gno

Re: downsized grub menu. [CLOSED]

2018-12-22 Thread Tim via users
Patrick O'Callaghan: > IIRC it used to be 72.72 (my first job was working on an early > typesetting system at Cambridge University Press :-) However > according to Wikipedia a point is now officially 1/72 of an > "international inch": > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point_(typography) I stayed

Re: xorg problems

2018-12-22 Thread Frank McCormick
On 12/21/18 3:56 PM, ja wrote: On Fri, 2018-12-21 at 11:57 -0500, Tom Horsley wrote: On Fri, 21 Dec 2018 11:39:09 -0500 Frank McCormick wrote: I know when I put an xorg.conf file in /etc/X11, X refused to start and I was left with a blank screen. You can put fragments of an xorg.conf fil

Re: downsized grub menu. [CLOSED]

2018-12-22 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2018-12-22 at 15:56 +1030, Tim via users wrote: > Don't believe me? Fire up LibreOffice, try out 12 and 24 point text, > and look at the on-screen ruler, or print it out. > > There's approx 72 of *these* points in an inch. IIRC it used to be 72.72 (my first job was working on an early ty