On 4/28/20 9:38 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
I just did that. Booted the new instance. Waited until the notification that
new software is ready,
showed up. Checked to see that the packages have all been downloaded and then
used the GNOME power-off
button.
A dialog came up with the box checked
On 2020-04-29 11:52, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> On 4/28/20 7:50 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> On 2020-04-29 10:41, Tom Horsley wrote:
>>> On Wed, 29 Apr 2020 06:59:41 +0800
>>> Ed Greshko wrote:
>>>
Interesting. This leaves me with some questions. Like, what did you
install and how did you
On 2020-04-29 11:52, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> On 4/28/20 7:50 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> On 2020-04-29 10:41, Tom Horsley wrote:
>>> On Wed, 29 Apr 2020 06:59:41 +0800
>>> Ed Greshko wrote:
>>>
Interesting. This leaves me with some questions. Like, what did you
install and how did you
On 4/28/20 7:50 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 2020-04-29 10:41, Tom Horsley wrote:
On Wed, 29 Apr 2020 06:59:41 +0800
Ed Greshko wrote:
Interesting. This leaves me with some questions. Like, what did you install
and how did you install it?
I've just written this all up on my Game of Linux web
On 4/28/20 2:31 PM, Thomas Dineen wrote:
I am on a Fedora 30 X86 Host, and I want to cross compile to i686
for Windows.
I am using the cross tools provided by the Fedora distribution
/usr/i686-w64-mingw32.
The i686-w64-mingw32 cross compiler dose work on Hello.c, independant of
meson's
On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 8:28 PM David wrote:
> I have zero idea what are things like bodhi, koji, mock, rpmbuild, etc.
In the Red Hat / Fedora world, packages come in the form of files with
an ".rpm" suffix. RPM stands for RedHat Package Manager. The tool
that is used to create those rpm files
On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 6:58 PM George Avrunin wrote:
>
> Fedora 31, fully upgraded (I think...) Summary: twice in the last
> three days (since getting kernel 5.6.6, though I have no idea if that's
> related), this machine has hung completely after running "sudo dnf
> upgrade" while logged in
On 2020-04-29 10:41, Tom Horsley wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Apr 2020 06:59:41 +0800
> Ed Greshko wrote:
>
>> Interesting. This leaves me with some questions. Like, what did you
>> install and how did you install it?
> I've just written this all up on my Game of Linux web site:
>
>
George Avrunin writes:
[..]
I don't have any idea what's going on and it's very inconvenient (not to
mention strongly discouraged by the powers that be) to have to keep going
on campus to restart the machine. So I'd be very grateful for suggests
about how to figure this out, or at least
On Wed, 29 Apr 2020 06:59:41 +0800
Ed Greshko wrote:
> Interesting. This leaves me with some questions. Like, what did you install
> and how did you install it?
I've just written this all up on my Game of Linux web site:
https://tomhorsley.com/game/offline-update.html
You have to install
> On 29 Apr 2020, at 11:45, fedoraproj...@scottsavarese.com wrote:
>
> I have a new 389 installation running on Centos 8. I'm trying to follow the
> https://directory.fedoraproject.org/docs/389ds/howto/howto-install-389.html
> and
Mr. Sieb, and Mr. James,
Thank you very much. I will save these two emails and study them word for
word.
I have zero idea what are things like bodhi, koji, mock, rpmbuild, etc.
But I plan to at least to try to grasp the general basic newbie stuff.
David Locklear
I have a new 389 installation running on Centos 8. I'm trying to follow
the
https://directory.fedoraproject.org/docs/389ds/howto/howto-install-389.html
and https://directory.fedoraproject.org/docs/389ds/howto/howto-ssl.html
instructions. However, once I enable TLS, my instance no longer starts
On 2020-04-29 08:27, home user wrote:
>> On 2020-04-29 05:58, Ed Greshko wrote:
>>
>> And F31 as well.
> How do I get to it? I selected plasma during sign-in, went into kde system
> settings, and saw only a few choices. Neither Adwaita nor Adwaita-dark was
> available. I did this with both of
Fedora 31, fully upgraded (I think...) Summary: twice in the last
three days (since getting kernel 5.6.6, though I have no idea if that's
related), this machine has hung completely after running "sudo dnf
upgrade" while logged in over ssh. It becomes completely unresponsive to
the network and to
> On 2020-04-29 05:58, Ed Greshko wrote:
>
> And F31 as well.
How do I get to it? I selected plasma during sign-in, went into kde system
settings, and saw only a few choices. Neither Adwaita nor Adwaita-dark was
available. I did this with both of my user accounts.
On Mon, 27 Apr 2020 at 22:25, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
>
>
> You have to always keep your ears to the ground, for these kinds of
> things.
> Anytime you hear about a new bit of technology that gets introduced as an
> alleged successor and a superiod alternative to something that's already
> here,
On 2020-04-29 05:58, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 2020-04-29 01:03, home user wrote:
>>> - In plasma, the Files display is fine in all 4 accounts.
>> Correction:
>> I re-checked. Plasma does not offer the "Adwaita-dark" theme.
> It does, on my F32KDE system.
>
And F31 as well.
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On 2020-04-29 07:18, Tom Horsley wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Apr 2020 06:59:41 +0800
> Ed Greshko wrote:
>
>> So, how can I reproduce what caused your system to do something different?
> No idea, that's the same procedure I followed, but it took a while
> for me to get around to the first boot and gnome
Samuel's answers were excellent. I just want to add one thing.
On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 4:11 PM Samuel Sieb wrote:
> That is a huge topic. I don't know where to start with that. I use
> "rpmbuild" for my purposes, but I've seen it mentioned that "mock" is
> the recommended way to build.
On Wed, 29 Apr 2020 06:59:41 +0800
Ed Greshko wrote:
> So, how can I reproduce what caused your system to do something different?
No idea, that's the same procedure I followed, but it took a while
for me to get around to the first boot and gnome had yodelled at
me about available updates before
On 2020-04-29 01:12, Tom Horsley wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Apr 2020 11:57:01 -0400
> Jonathan Billings wrote:
>
>> I think it's the packagekit-offline-update.service that actually
>> performs the update during shutdown (triggered by
>> system-update.target). I bet if you run:
>> 'systemctl mask
James Szinger writes:
On Tue, 28 Apr 2020 13:12:35 -0400
Tom Horsley wrote:
> Bingo! I used "systemctl --root=/mnt/sysroot" to mask both
> packagekit-offline-update and packagekit before booting the
> first time after the reinstall, and rebooted with no messages
> about installing updates.
On 4/28/20 1:06 PM, David wrote:
I have nunerous Linux newbie questions, just using "bind" as a package
example.
The new 9.16 test-version of "bind" is considered "upstream.". Right ?
No, "upstream" is the project supplying the source code.
"dnf info bind" gives
On 4/28/20 12:35 PM, Beartooth wrote:
On Tue, 28 Apr 2020 10:06:24 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote:
On 4/28/20 9:14 AM, Beartooth wrote:
On Mon, 27 Apr 2020 14:12:49 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote:
On Thu, 23 Apr 2020 20:43:36 +0200, Łukasz Posadowski wrote:
Try:
dnf --color=never install
On 2020-04-29 01:03, home user wrote:
>> - In plasma, the Files display is fine in all 4 accounts.
> Correction:
> I re-checked. Plasma does not offer the "Adwaita-dark" theme.
It does, on my F32KDE system.
--
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GentlePeople:
I am trying to build gdk-pixbuf-2.40.0 out of the box.
The directions require the use of meson and ninja, my first
experience with both!
I am on a Fedora 30 X86 Host, and I want to cross compile to i686
for Windows.
I am using the cross tools provided by the Fedora
Seems the GDM option to switch desktops has been removed on Fedora 32.
switchdesk no longer works either.
How do you switch desktops on Fedora 32? It has become non-obvious.
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On 2020-04-28 13:30, Jonathan Billings wrote:
On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 01:12:03PM -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
Gots to look up nftables. Have you converted iptables
to nftables yet? Does it follow any of the iptables
syntax? (I have HUNDREDS of line of iptables.)
If you replace your
On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 01:12:03PM -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
> Gots to look up nftables. Have you converted iptables
> to nftables yet? Does it follow any of the iptables
> syntax? (I have HUNDREDS of line of iptables.)
If you replace your 'iptables' package with 'iptables-nft',
On 2020-04-28 05:15, Chris Adams wrote:
Once upon a time, Samuel Sieb said:
I still make my own iptables scripts, mostly using fwbuilder. I
think it might be possible to add the dynamic rules I would like to
have if I switch to firewalld, but I haven't had the time for that
yet. And then
I have nunerous Linux newbie questions, just using "bind" as a package
example.
The new 9.16 test-version of "bind" is considered "upstream.". Right ?
Is 9.17 "further upstream" ?
What factors will play out by the person choosing to replace the current
version of "bind" in the Rawhide repo"
On Tue, 28 Apr 2020 10:06:24 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> On 4/28/20 9:14 AM, Beartooth wrote:
>> On Mon, 27 Apr 2020 14:12:49 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote:
>>
On Thu, 23 Apr 2020 20:43:36 +0200, Łukasz Posadowski wrote:
> Try:
> dnf --color=never install python3-pygame
Hello Fedora users,
I have prepared BIND 9.16 builds on COPR [1]. It can be used to install
more recent version of bind onto supported Fedora, or CentOS 8. It is
technology preview, some derived version should land in Fedora Rawhide
and Fedora 33. I would like to ask opinions on that builds. And
On 04/28/2020 10:28 AM, Digimer wrote:
Auto-installing updates on shutdown is a terrible idea and should NOT be
the default behaviour of any modern OS.
And, of course, if somebody had the temerity to open a BZ on this
behavior, it would be instantly closed as NOTABUG.
On 2020-04-28 09:41, Łukasz Posadowski wrote:
Sun, 26 Apr 2020 19:58:14 -0700
ToddAndMargo via users :
Tip: if running Nextcloud, stay on Fedora 31 until
Nextcloud fixes their stuff.
-T
Fedora 32
nextcloud-18.0.4.zip
Brave Browser: http://127.0.0.1/nextcloud/index.php
This version of
On 4/28/20 11:18 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote:
Where can I download Fedora XFCE Workstation, is it even available yet,
I have not found it?
Bob
https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/32/Spins/x86_64/iso/Fedora-Xfce-Live-x86_64-32-1.6.iso
Le 28/04/2020 à 17:17, Tom Horsley a écrit :
> On Tue, 28 Apr 2020 23:07:41 +0800
> Ed Greshko wrote:
>
>> Failing that, google "gnome disable auto update"?
>
> This isn't gnome, it was well into the shutdown
> process when this nonsense suddenly popped up.
>
> Imagine how convenient it will be
On Tue, 28 Apr 2020 13:12:35 -0400
Tom Horsley wrote:
> Bingo! I used "systemctl --root=/mnt/sysroot" to mask both
> packagekit-offline-update and packagekit before booting the
> first time after the reinstall, and rebooted with no messages
> about installing updates. (And no gnome notifications
On Tue, 28 Apr 2020 11:57:01 -0400
Jonathan Billings wrote:
> I think it's the packagekit-offline-update.service that actually
> performs the update during shutdown (triggered by
> system-update.target). I bet if you run:
> 'systemctl mask packagekit-offline-update.service'
> ... it will disable
On 4/28/20 9:14 AM, Beartooth wrote:
On Mon, 27 Apr 2020 14:12:49 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote:
On Thu, 23 Apr 2020 20:43:36 +0200, Łukasz Posadowski wrote:
Try:
dnf --color=never install python3-pygame
I tried it, on all four machines. No joy. I rebooted them, and
did another upgrade.
> - In plasma, the Files display is fine in all 4 accounts.
Correction:
I re-checked. Plasma does not offer the "Adwaita-dark" theme.
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On Tue, 2020-04-28 at 16:45 +, david richyad wrote:
> cisco ise helps safeguard your business. It lets you control access
> throughout your network, see the user and device details, and stop/contain
> any threats. You can also use it to enforce security policies throughout your
> network.
On 4/28/20 5:15 AM, Chris Adams wrote:
Once upon a time, Samuel Sieb said:
I still make my own iptables scripts, mostly using fwbuilder. I
think it might be possible to add the dynamic rules I would like to
have if I switch to firewalld, but I haven't had the time for that
yet. And then
cisco ise helps safeguard your business. It lets you control access throughout
your network, see the user and device details, and stop/contain any threats.
You can also use it to enforce security policies throughout your network. As a
result, it helps prevent any technical issues and
Sun, 26 Apr 2020 19:58:14 -0700
ToddAndMargo via users :
> Tip: if running Nextcloud, stay on Fedora 31 until
> Nextcloud fixes their stuff.
>
> -T
>
> Fedora 32
> nextcloud-18.0.4.zip
>
> Brave Browser: http://127.0.0.1/nextcloud/index.php
>
> This version of Nextcloud is not compatible with
On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 11:37 AM sean darcy wrote:
>
> 32 is scheduled to be released day after tomorrow.
>
No, it was released today. You can get it from
https://spins.fedoraproject.org/xfce/download/index.html
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Senior Program Manager, Fedora & CentOS Stream
Red
On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 4:55 PM Tom Horsley
wrote:
>
> I try to shutdown my new fedora 32 virtual machine.
> It immediately says:
>
> "Installing updates, do not turn off"
>
> AAUGH! I don't want to install frigging updates (yet).
>
> How do I reinstall fedora and turn this crap off
> before
On 2020-04-28 11:57 a.m., Jonathan Billings wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 10:54:15AM -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
>>
>> I try to shutdown my new fedora 32 virtual machine.
>> It immediately says:
>>
>> "Installing updates, do not turn off"
>>
>> AAUGH! I don't want to install frigging updates
On Mon, 27 Apr 2020 14:12:49 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote:
>> On Thu, 23 Apr 2020 20:43:36 +0200, Łukasz Posadowski wrote:
>>
>>> Try:
>>> dnf --color=never install python3-pygame
>>
>> I tried it, on all four machines. No joy. I rebooted them, and
>> did another upgrade. Still no joy. I even
Let's start over (sort-of). In his signature, Ed says "The key to getting good
answers is to ask good questions.". True, but not complete. Good observations
and evidence are needed also. It did not occur to me try certain things; and
it did not occur to me that some things that I did notice
On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 10:54:15AM -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
>
> I try to shutdown my new fedora 32 virtual machine.
> It immediately says:
>
> "Installing updates, do not turn off"
>
> AAUGH! I don't want to install frigging updates (yet).
>
> How do I reinstall fedora and turn this crap
Hallo
official Release statement isn't out yet, but I say thanks for another
nice Fedora release to *all* people made F32 happen.
Running F32 since beta was released without bugs on an pure Intel box.
- some very minor though, but ... -
nice !
stay healthy
--
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On 2020-04-28 11:38, Terry Polzin wrote:
>
>
Here's the most recent release candidate:
https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/32_RC-1.6/Spins/x86_64/iso/Fedora-Xfce-Live-x86_64-32-1.6.iso
32 is scheduled to be released day after tomorrow.
sean
°
Ok, the rc1 site may be overwhelmed, it
On Tue, 28 Apr 2020 11:17:23 -0400 Tom Horsley wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Apr 2020 23:07:41 +0800
> Ed Greshko wrote:
>
> > Failing that, google "gnome disable auto update"?
>
> This isn't gnome, it was well into the shutdown
> process when this nonsense suddenly popped up.
>
> Imagine how convenient
https://mirror.atl.genesisadaptive.com/fedora/linux/releases/test/32_Beta/Spins/x86_64/iso/Fedora-Xfce-Live-x86_64-32_Beta-1.2.iso
On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 11:37 AM sean darcy wrote:
> On 4/28/20 11:18 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote:
> > Where can I download Fedora XFCE Workstation, is it even available
On 4/28/20 11:18 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote:
Where can I download Fedora XFCE Workstation, is it even available yet,
I have not found it?
Bob
Here's the most recent release candidate:
https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/32_RC-1.6/Spins/x86_64/iso/Fedora-Xfce-Live-x86_64-32-1.6.iso
32
On 2020-04-28 11:24, Terry Polzin wrote:
I downloaded the 32 spin off the mirrors.
°
I already have an F32 xfce beta VM that I can't update because of
insufficient space. Decided to just get another copy with xfce and put
it on another hard drive, but I will have to wait for an ISO
I downloaded the 32 spin off the mirrors.
On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 11:19 AM Bob Goodwin wrote:
> Where can I download Fedora XFCE Workstation, is it even available yet,
> I have not found it?
>
> Bob
>
>
> --
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> Fedora Linux-31 XFCE
>
Where can I download Fedora XFCE Workstation, is it even available yet,
I have not found it?
Bob
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Fedora Linux-31 XFCE
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On Tue, 28 Apr 2020 23:07:41 +0800
Ed Greshko wrote:
> Failing that, google "gnome disable auto update"?
This isn't gnome, it was well into the shutdown
process when this nonsense suddenly popped up.
Imagine how convenient it will be to be on your
laptop when the plane starts boarding and you
On Tue, 28 Apr 2020 23:07:41 +0800 Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 2020-04-28 22:54, Tom Horsley wrote:
> > I try to shutdown my new fedora 32 virtual machine.
> > It immediately says:
> >
> > "Installing updates, do not turn off"
> >
> > AAUGH! I don't want to install frigging updates (yet).
> >
> >
On 2020-04-28 22:54, Tom Horsley wrote:
> I try to shutdown my new fedora 32 virtual machine.
> It immediately says:
>
> "Installing updates, do not turn off"
>
> AAUGH! I don't want to install frigging updates (yet).
>
> How do I reinstall fedora and turn this crap off
> before I shutdown the
DNFDRAGORA?
On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 10:55 AM Tom Horsley wrote:
> I try to shutdown my new fedora 32 virtual machine.
> It immediately says:
>
> "Installing updates, do not turn off"
>
> AAUGH! I don't want to install frigging updates (yet).
>
> How do I reinstall fedora and turn this crap
I try to shutdown my new fedora 32 virtual machine.
It immediately says:
"Installing updates, do not turn off"
AAUGH! I don't want to install frigging updates (yet).
How do I reinstall fedora and turn this crap off
before I shutdown the next time?
Folks should be made aware that with the release of F32 they should be aware
they may see
some SELinux alerts about preventing a process from accessing sys_nice
capability.
This alert causes no issues or loss of functionality. There is a bugzilla
already submitted and
the next release of the
On 4/28/20 10:08 AM, sean darcy wrote:
On 4/27/20 6:33 PM, stan via users wrote:
On Mon, 27 Apr 2020 10:42:52 -0400
sean darcy wrote:
I am just guessing here, since I don't know what the problem is.
What happens if you comment or remove this line? This is the only
line in your
On 2020-04-28 21:31, Tim via users wrote:
Pardon the Top Post
MOOT
It’s here! We’re proud to announce the release of Fedora 32.
Thanks to the hard work of thousands of Fedora community
members and contributors, we’re celebrating yet another
on-time release!
> On Tue, 2020-04-28 at 10:27
Fedora 32 is official, so this discussion can continue on this list.
Anyway, it seems that same issue might be in F31, as the bug reported by
Andre is quite old
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Linux Fedora 32 Workstation
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Il giorno mar 28 apr 2020 alle ore 15:31 Tim via users <
On 4/27/20 6:33 PM, stan via users wrote:
On Mon, 27 Apr 2020 10:42:52 -0400
sean darcy wrote:
I am just guessing here, since I don't know what the problem is.
What happens if you comment or remove this line? This is the only
line in your configuration file that seems to have something
On Tue, 2020-04-28 at 10:27 +, Andre Robatino wrote:
> I'm not certain, but I thought it was considered okay to discuss a
> Beta version of an upcoming release on the users list.
It's generally considered not right. This list is for the current
*release*, the test list is for the not yet
On 2020-04-28 20:15, Chris Adams wrote:
> Once upon a time, Samuel Sieb said:
>> I still make my own iptables scripts, mostly using fwbuilder. I
>> think it might be possible to add the dynamic rules I would like to
>> have if I switch to firewalld, but I haven't had the time for that
>> yet.
Once upon a time, Samuel Sieb said:
> I still make my own iptables scripts, mostly using fwbuilder. I
> think it might be possible to add the dynamic rules I would like to
> have if I switch to firewalld, but I haven't had the time for that
> yet. And then there's nftables which is the new
I might be thinking of #fedora on IRC. The topic says "Topic for #fedora is:
#Fedora F30, F31, F32 Beta end user support".
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I'm not certain, but I thought it was considered okay to discuss a Beta version
of an upcoming release on the users list. Besides, by the time most people read
this thread, F32 will have been officially released (just a few hours from now).
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On Tue, 2020-04-28 at 07:02 +0200, antonio montagnani wrote:
> Installed F32 on two machines last sunday; I have experienced freezing
> of the machines and I had to hard reboot, Anyone experiencing same issue??
At the risk of being flamed yet again, I'll point out that the Fedora
Test list is
The machine experiencing the freezes is running the 5.6.6 kernel (the F32
release version), which is also the current stable kernel in F31, so I'd expect
some people running F31 to also be seeing the freezes right now. The previous
F31 kernel was 5.5.17, I don't know if that was affected.
furthermore if I use dnfdragora for updating it crashes immediately :-(
Antonio Montagnani
Linux Fedora 32 Workstation
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Il giorno mar 28 apr 2020 alle ore 10:34 Andre Robatino <
robat...@fedoraproject.org> ha scritto:
> Oh, and BTW, the reporter of the bug commented that he
Oh, and BTW, the reporter of the bug commented that he thought it should be a
32 blocker, but didn't mark it as such. I was noticing similar freezes in my 32
and Rawhide VMs a few weeks ago, but they went away, presumably when the fixes
made it into the kernel.
I have experienced freezes shortly after running dnf on one of my machines. It
has nothing to do with GNOME, it happens even in runlevel 3 (multi-user). I
found this bug:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1826091
It claims the problem is fixed with kernel 5.6.7 which is in testing, I
Experts please hit the delete button now, pretty please,
or correct my errors
I spent Day 50 of my self-quarantine trying to learn things about Linux.
Below is one of the more interesting articles that I found
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