Re: new release of zoom needed in @system repository.

2020-05-14 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 5/14/20 10:14 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 05/14/2020 07:58 PM, John M. Harris Jr wrote: No, there will not be. Zoom isn't packaged in Fedora. You manually installed it. You'll have to reach out to the vendor for that one. Thanx!  I've been trying to use Zoom for meetings of a club I belong to

Re: ADDITIONAL INFO -trying to convert to nftables I have a problem that it adds rules on its own - SOLVED

2020-05-14 Thread by way of D
On Thu, 14 May 2020 12:14:07 -0500 dwoody5...@gmail.com wrote: > On Wed, 13 May 2020 22:57:42 -0500 > i...@itwrx.org wrote: > > > On 5/13/20 10:02 PM, D wrote: > > > nftable.conf is setup as: > > > > > > flush ruleset > > > table inet nat { > > > chain postrouting { > > >

Re: new release of zoom needed in @system repository.

2020-05-14 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/14/2020 07:58 PM, John M. Harris Jr wrote: No, there will not be. Zoom isn't packaged in Fedora. You manually installed it. You'll have to reach out to the vendor for that one. Thanx! I've been trying to use Zoom for meetings of a club I belong to but my tablet's audio keeps breaking

Re: new release of zoom needed in @system repository.

2020-05-14 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 5/14/20 9:56 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 2020-05-15 12:30, Samuel Sieb wrote: That error message has nothing to do with zoom other than it calls some mime update function in the post install.  I get that message regularly from other updates as well.  I checked the script and it's this: #

Re: new release of zoom needed in @system repository.

2020-05-14 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-05-15 12:30, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 5/14/20 9:08 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 2020-05-15 11:43, Samuel Sieb wrote: >>> You could file a bug on blender if there isn't one already, but I don't >>> think it's a big problem. >> >> For fun, I installed zoom in a VM and got. >> >>   

Re: Too Many Clicks

2020-05-14 Thread Robert McBroom via users
On 5/15/20 12:13 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 2020-05-15 12:01, Robert McBroom via users wrote: In Xfce, I was looking at the settings for the mouse and clicked the button to turn it off.  Now the cursor sits in the middle of the screen and I have very few options for control.  A few pop ups with

Re: new release of zoom needed in @system repository.

2020-05-14 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 5/14/20 9:08 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 2020-05-15 11:43, Samuel Sieb wrote: You could file a bug on blender if there isn't one already, but I don't think it's a big problem. For fun, I installed zoom in a VM and got.   Running scriptlet: zoom-5.0.403652.0509-1.x86_64  

Re: Too Many Clicks

2020-05-14 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-05-15 12:01, Robert McBroom via users wrote: > In Xfce, I was looking at the settings for the mouse and clicked the button > to turn it off.  Now the cursor sits in the middle of the screen and I have > very few options for control.  A few pop ups with the function keys but > logout is

Re: Too Many Clicks

2020-05-14 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 5/14/20 9:01 PM, Robert McBroom via users wrote: In Xfce, I was looking at the settings for the mouse and clicked the button to turn it off.  Now the cursor sits in the middle of the screen and I have very few options for control.  A few pop ups with the function keys but logout is the only

Re: Too Many Clicks

2020-05-14 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-05-15 12:01, Robert McBroom via users wrote: > In Xfce, I was looking at the settings for the mouse and clicked the button > to turn it off.  Now the cursor sits in the middle of the screen and I have > very few options for control.  A few pop ups with the function keys but > logout is

Re: new release of zoom needed in @system repository.

2020-05-14 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-05-15 11:43, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 5/14/20 7:23 PM, home user wrote: >> How do I fix whatever is wrong as indicated by "Wrong namespace on document >> element in '/usr/share/mime/packages/blender.xml' (should be >> http://www.freedesktop.org/standards/shared-mime-info)", or is that a

Too Many Clicks

2020-05-14 Thread Robert McBroom via users
In Xfce, I was looking at the settings for the mouse and clicked the button to turn it off.  Now the cursor sits in the middle of the screen and I have very few options for control.  A few pop ups with the function keys but logout is the only useful one.  Is there a key combination that will

Re: new release of zoom needed in @system repository.

2020-05-14 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 5/14/20 7:23 PM, home user wrote: How do I fix whatever is wrong as indicated by "Wrong namespace on document element in '/usr/share/mime/packages/blender.xml' (should be http://www.freedesktop.org/standards/shared-mime-info)", or is that a non-issue? I forgot to mention: this is f31; I'm

Re: new release of zoom needed in @system repository.

2020-05-14 Thread home user
> On 5/14/20 6:49 PM, home user wrote: > > That is really old. > > > No, you will never get an update that way. Zoom doesn't provide a repo. > You need to download the new rpm (which always has the same name) and > install it with "dnf install zoom_x86_64.rpm". That will do an upgrade >

Re: new release of zoom needed in @system repository.

2020-05-14 Thread home user
> On 2020-05-15 09:49, home user wrote: > > How did, where did, you acquire "zoom"? > > Note that on a standard F31 system with only google and rpmfusion added repos. > > [egreshko@f31k ~]$ dnf info zoom > . > . > Error: No matching Packages to list > > Also, note your src.rpm package doesn't

Re: new release of zoom needed in @system repository.

2020-05-14 Thread John M. Harris Jr
On Thursday, May 14, 2020 6:49:38 PM MST home user wrote: > I signed in to zoom a short while ago to schedule a meeting, and found the > following three notices: > New Features > Our latest release went live on April 12th. Please subscribe to our blog and > visit our release notes to stay

Re: new release of zoom needed in @system repository.

2020-05-14 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-05-15 09:49, home user wrote: > I signed in to zoom a short while ago to schedule a meeting, and found the > following three notices: > > New Features > Our latest release went live on April 12th. Please subscribe to our blog and > visit our release notes to stay up-to-date on all the

Re: new release of zoom needed in @system repository.

2020-05-14 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 5/14/20 6:49 PM, home user wrote: -bash.3[~]: dnf info zoom Last metadata expiration check: 0:38:48 ago on Thu 14 May 2020 06:49:20 PM MDT. Installed Packages Name : zoom Version : 2.8.252201.0616 That is really old. Will an update be available via dnf before zoom starts

new release of zoom needed in @system repository.

2020-05-14 Thread home user
I signed in to zoom a short while ago to schedule a meeting, and found the following three notices: New Features Our latest release went live on April 12th. Please subscribe to our blog and visit our release notes to stay up-to-date on all the latest enhancements to your account. To update to

Re: Terminal bleed through?

2020-05-14 Thread Christopher Marlow
On Thu, 2020-05-14 at 17:36 -0700, John M. Harris Jr wrote: > 44 > > Wayland or Xorg? > > -- > John M. Harris, Jr. > Splentity XORG. Chris ch...@cwm030.com ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to

[389-users] Re: intro to 389 LDAP administration

2020-05-14 Thread William Brown
> On 15 May 2020, at 08:47, Matt Zagrabelny wrote: > > Hey William, > > Thanks for the welcome! > >> Hey there, welcome to LDAP and 389-ds! >> >> >> Yeah, this socket file name is encoded. Check for /var/run/slapd-> name>.socket, which in your case, is slapd-gopher.socket. > > Hmmm. Nope.

Re: Terminal bleed through?

2020-05-14 Thread John M. Harris Jr
On Thursday, May 14, 2020 11:42:08 AM MST Christopher Marlow wrote: > What could cause this issue? > > When I open a terminal in FC 32 I see bleed through of my wallpaper as > seen below. > > https://imgur.com/a/EhaLRQu > > See the line right up under the password prompt? > > It will go away

Re: Terminal bleed through?

2020-05-14 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-05-15 06:44, Christopher Marlow wrote: > On Fri, 2020-05-15 at 06:25 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 2020-05-15 06:06, Christopher Marlow wrote: >>> On Thu, 2020-05-14 at 17:00 -0400, Jon LaBadie wrote: Check your terminal's "profile". My mate terminals have profiles with a

[389-users] Re: intro to 389 LDAP administration

2020-05-14 Thread Matt Zagrabelny
Hey William, Thanks for the welcome! > Hey there, welcome to LDAP and 389-ds! > > > Yeah, this socket file name is encoded. Check for /var/run/slapd- name>.socket, which in your case, is slapd-gopher.socket. Hmmm. Nope. No sockets. Here is what is in /var/run... # find -L /var/run -name

Re: Terminal bleed through?

2020-05-14 Thread Christopher Marlow
On Fri, 2020-05-15 at 06:25 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 2020-05-15 06:06, Christopher Marlow wrote: > > On Thu, 2020-05-14 at 17:00 -0400, Jon LaBadie wrote: > > > Check your terminal's "profile". My mate terminals have profiles > > > with a background setting where one option is "transparent".

Re: Errors in Classifying Updates

2020-05-14 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-05-15 02:51, Samuel Sieb wrote: > But this discussion is rather irrelevant anyway.  You're not going to get > what you want.  Online updates are not "supported".  You can do them if you > want, but you are on your own.  I do online upgrades (not system upgrades), > but I also generally

Re: Terminal bleed through?

2020-05-14 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-05-15 06:06, Christopher Marlow wrote: > On Thu, 2020-05-14 at 17:00 -0400, Jon LaBadie wrote: >> Check your terminal's "profile". My mate terminals have profiles >> with a background setting where one option is "transparent". >> A slider goes along with that setting for the degree of

Re: Terminal bleed through?

2020-05-14 Thread Christopher Marlow
On Thu, 2020-05-14 at 17:00 -0400, Jon LaBadie wrote: > > Check your terminal's "profile". My mate terminals have profiles > with a background setting where one option is "transparent". > A slider goes along with that setting for the degree of transparency. > > Nope, nothing in there about

Re: Terminal bleed through?

2020-05-14 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 01:42:08PM -0500, Christopher Marlow wrote: > What could cause this issue? > > When I open a terminal in FC 32 I see bleed through of my wallpaper as > seen below. > > https://imgur.com/a/EhaLRQu > > See the line right up under the password prompt? > > It will go away

Re: Errors in Classifying Updates

2020-05-14 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/14/2020 12:51 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: I'm saying that if one executable has a shared library open and then that library is deleted, the inode still exists.  However, the same path could now point to a different inode with a new version of the library and any executables getting started

Re: L1TF CPU bug present - What do I do now ?

2020-05-14 Thread stan via users
On Thu, 14 May 2020 12:33:59 -0700 stan via users wrote: > I think for single use systems, Tom's response is the correct one, but > you can worry if you want. :-) After posting, I vaguely recalled that there was a javascript implementation of the sample exploit code. So, that is another thing

Re: L1TF CPU bug present - What do I do now ?

2020-05-14 Thread stan via users
On Thu, 14 May 2020 15:53:52 -0400 Tom Horsley wrote: > On Thu, 14 May 2020 12:33:59 -0700 > stan via users wrote: > > > These are meant to > > be silos, but this attack would allow someone on one virtual > > machine to capture data of another virtual machine running on the > > same core. >

Re: Terminal bleed through?

2020-05-14 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 14 May 2020 12:45:29 -0700 stan via users wrote: > Have you tried a different terminal program? I'm pretty sure there is at least one terminal program I've seen that does this deliberately to show off how clever it is. (I stopped ever using it and forgot it existed, so I don't remember

Re: L1TF CPU bug present - What do I do now ?

2020-05-14 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 14 May 2020 12:33:59 -0700 stan via users wrote: > These are meant to > be silos, but this attack would allow someone on one virtual machine to > capture data of another virtual machine running on the same core. Reminds me of the very early days of KVM virtualization where I discovered

Re: Terminal bleed through?

2020-05-14 Thread Christopher Marlow
On Thu, 2020-05-14 at 12:45 -0700, stan via users wrote: > On Thu, 14 May 2020 13:42:08 -0500 > Christopher Marlow wrote: > > > What could cause this issue? > > > > When I open a terminal in FC 32 I see bleed through of my wallpaper > > as > > seen below. > > > > https://imgur.com/a/EhaLRQu >

Re: Terminal bleed through?

2020-05-14 Thread stan via users
On Thu, 14 May 2020 13:42:08 -0500 Christopher Marlow wrote: > What could cause this issue? > > When I open a terminal in FC 32 I see bleed through of my wallpaper as > seen below. > > https://imgur.com/a/EhaLRQu > > See the line right up under the password prompt? > > It will go away if

Re: L1TF CPU bug present - What do I do now ?

2020-05-14 Thread stan via users
On Thu, 14 May 2020 23:01:04 +0530 Sreyan Chakravarty wrote: > While booting up I get a scary message saying: > > L1TF CPU bug present and SMT on, data leak possible. > The scariest thing about this bug, specifically, is that even > malicious VMs pose a threat. May speculative execution burn in

Re: Errors in Classifying Updates

2020-05-14 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 11:51:11AM -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 5/14/20 11:34 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: > > On 05/14/2020 12:20 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: > > > > > > Besides, you say the file doesn't vanish until the last program > > > closes it.  While technically true, it's not practically true.  > >

Re: L1TF CPU bug present - What do I do now ?

2020-05-14 Thread Thorsten Schubert
On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 7:31 PM Sreyan Chakravarty wrote: > I am in the process of reading this detailed article about the bug: > > https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/admin-guide/hw-vuln/l1tf.html > > > Meanwhile, I wanted to know if any one here has the same problem and > what they did for

Re: Errors in Classifying Updates

2020-05-14 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 5/14/20 11:34 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 05/14/2020 12:20 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: Besides, you say the file doesn't vanish until the last program closes it.  While technically true, it's not practically true.  Sure, the inode still exists in the file system, but the name is gone or points to

Terminal bleed through?

2020-05-14 Thread Christopher Marlow
What could cause this issue? When I open a terminal in FC 32 I see bleed through of my wallpaper as seen below. https://imgur.com/a/EhaLRQu See the line right up under the password prompt? It will go away if you highlight the line with your mouse or type in your password and hit enter. Its

Re: Errors in Classifying Updates

2020-05-14 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/14/2020 12:20 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: Besides, you say the file doesn't vanish until the last program closes it.  While technically true, it's not practically true.  Sure, the inode still exists in the file system, but the name is gone or points to a different file.  So even if one

Re: is this a dnf bug?

2020-05-14 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 14 May 2020 11:24:48 -0700 Samuel Sieb wrote: > You will only remove the new > packages and the old ones will stay around forever. That actually happens already. If I don't do an dnf update long enough and there are duplicate versions in the cache there will be old packages left over

Re: is this a dnf bug?

2020-05-14 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 5/14/20 10:52 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Thu, 14 May 2020 10:19:35 -0700 Samuel Sieb wrote: Set the keep cache option next time if you're only doing a partial update. That would then keep everything, including the ones I updated :-). Only have it set for that transaction. Then when you

Re: Errors in Classifying Updates

2020-05-14 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 5/14/20 10:12 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 05/14/2020 09:26 AM, Richard Hughes wrote: It's impossible. Desktop applications do not expect files to just disappear when running. This is Linux we're talking about, so they don't.  When you delete a file, it doesn't vanish until the last program

Re: L1TF CPU bug present - What do I do now ?

2020-05-14 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 14 May 2020 23:01:04 +0530 Sreyan Chakravarty wrote: > Meanwhile, I wanted to know if any one here has the same problem and > what they did for mitigations. I mitigate by ignoring it :-). (Seeing as how there I nothing I can do about it). ___

Re: is this a dnf bug?

2020-05-14 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 14 May 2020 10:19:35 -0700 Samuel Sieb wrote: > Set the > keep cache option next time if you're only doing a partial update. That would then keep everything, including the ones I updated :-). Still doesn't seem reasonable for it to delete things not involved in the successful

L1TF CPU bug present - What do I do now ?

2020-05-14 Thread Sreyan Chakravarty
Hi guys, While booting up I get a scary message saying: L1TF CPU bug present and SMT on, data leak possible. Yup you guessed it, I am on an Intel processor, which is in fact quiet old: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6200U CPU Vulnerability info from the kernel: cat

Re: is this a dnf bug?

2020-05-14 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 5/14/20 6:09 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: I download updates to the cache on cron at night. I wanted to apply some updates, but not have to reboot because I got a new kernel or something, so I did: dnf update 'libre*' That updated all the libreoffice packages. Then I look at the cache, and it

Re: trying to convert to nftables I have a problem that it adds rules on its own - SOLVED

2020-05-14 Thread ITwrx
On 5/14/20 12:14 PM, D wrote: > My nftables has been running for hours with no problem. > > Thanks for your responses, > > David great! I didn't do much, but you're welcome. :) sometimes it just helps to have someone to bounce ideas off of. ITwrx ___

Re: trying to convert to nftables I have a problem that it adds rules on its own - SOLVED

2020-05-14 Thread D
On Wed, 13 May 2020 22:57:42 -0500 i...@itwrx.org wrote: > On 5/13/20 10:02 PM, D wrote: > > nftable.conf is setup as: > > > > flush ruleset > > table inet nat { > > chain postrouting { > > type nat hook postrouting priority srcnat; policy accept; > >

Re: Errors in Classifying Updates

2020-05-14 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/14/2020 09:26 AM, Richard Hughes wrote: It's impossible. Desktop applications do not expect files to just disappear when running. This is Linux we're talking about, so they don't. When you delete a file, it doesn't vanish until the last program using it closes the file. HTH, HAND.

Re: Thunderburd notifications -

2020-05-14 Thread ITwrx
On 5/14/20 10:40 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote: > ° > > Some time ago Thunderbird email notifications stopped happening and I > can't determine why. I have it set to provide both visual and sound > notification but neither happens. Thunderbird provides audio from > various sources but never for email

Thunderburd notifications -

2020-05-14 Thread Bob Goodwin
° Some time ago Thunderbird email notifications stopped happening and I can't determine why. I have it set to provide both visual and sound notification but neither happens. Thunderbird provides audio from various sources but never for email notifications now and my effort to troubleshoot

Re: Errors in Classifying Updates

2020-05-14 Thread Richard Hughes
On Thu, 14 May 2020 at 13:45, John Mellor wrote: > > All package updates are scheduled for offline installation. There's no > > safe way to update packages at runtime, and I've written a lot about > > this in the past. > That is untrue. I have observed a few packages installing without a >

Re: is this a dnf bug?

2020-05-14 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 9:10 AM Tom Horsley wrote: > I download updates to the cache on cron at night. > > I wanted to apply some updates, but not have to reboot > because I got a new kernel or something, so I did: > > dnf update 'libre*' > > That updated all the libreoffice packages. > >

is this a dnf bug?

2020-05-14 Thread Tom Horsley
I download updates to the cache on cron at night. I wanted to apply some updates, but not have to reboot because I got a new kernel or something, so I did: dnf update 'libre*' That updated all the libreoffice packages. Then I look at the cache, and it deleted *everything*, not just the

Re: Power Mgmt problem

2020-05-14 Thread stan via users
On Wed, 13 May 2020 18:03:07 -0500 Christopher Marlow wrote: > Good News! I found a 22" at Walmart today for 88.00 and tax. So I had > to buy it and I did! Its nice coming from 17.. I open Evo and theres > this huge white gap on the side of space. I need to figure out how to > make everything

Re: Errors in Classifying Updates

2020-05-14 Thread John Mellor
On 2020-05-14 8:08 a.m., Richard Hughes wrote: On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 13:28, John Mellor wrote: That just stumps me. How can Vim possibly be an update requiring a system reboot? All package updates are scheduled for offline installation. There's no safe way to update packages at runtime,

Re: Power Mgmt problem

2020-05-14 Thread stan via users
On Wed, 13 May 2020 22:14:15 -0500 Christopher Marlow wrote: > Turns out the new monitor fixed my problem I left the computer alone > for 30 + min and then moved the mouse and I didnt have the problem I > have been talking about for the last week now! HURRAY! So it wasn't > Fedora or my computer

Re: Errors in Classifying Updates

2020-05-14 Thread Richard Hughes
On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 13:28, John Mellor wrote: > That just stumps me. How can Vim possibly be an update requiring a > system reboot? All package updates are scheduled for offline installation. There's no safe way to update packages at runtime, and I've written a lot about this in the past. >

Re: trying to convert to nftables I have a problem that it adds rules on its own

2020-05-14 Thread Richard Shaw
On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 10:58 PM ITwrx wrote: > > maybe something else is running like firewalld? i've been using nftables > for a while on other distros and now on fedora and i haven't seen any > changes being made to my nftables.conf. > > maybe run "systemctl status firewalld"? > Quite

Re: sound in KDE ?

2020-05-14 Thread Tim via users
On Thu, 2020-05-14 at 11:26 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > I may not be your imagination, but simply a setting. There's a meme in there. Brilliant! -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1127.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Mar 31 23:36:51 UTC 2020 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is

Re: VideoConference Package?

2020-05-14 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2020-05-14 at 08:55 +0530, Thomas Stephen Lee wrote: > On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 6:21 PM Patrick O'Callaghan > wrote: > > > On Wed, 2020-05-13 at 08:26 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: > > > On Wed, 13 May 2020 13:07:32 +0100 > > > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > > > > > BTW, Google say that