Re: system-upgrade

2020-09-01 Thread Michael D. Setzer II via users
On 1 Sep 2020 at 19:17, Samuel Sieb wrote: Subject:Re: system-upgrade To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org From: Samuel Sieb Date sent: Tue, 1 Sep 2020 19:17:36 -0700 Send reply to: Community support for Fedora users > On

Re: system-upgrade

2020-09-01 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 9/1/20 6:54 PM, Michael D. Setzer II via users wrote: I'd recommand doing one version upgrade at a time. You are suppose to be able to upgrade 2 versions, but I once had it fail and system was not easily fixable, so just did a clean install that was a pain to get back to the state of the syste

Re: system-upgrade

2020-09-01 Thread Michael D. Setzer II via users
I'd recommand doing one version upgrade at a time. You are suppose to be able to upgrade 2 versions, but I once had it fail and system was not easily fixable, so just did a clean install that was a pain to get back to the state of the system. I just updated two machines from fc31 to fc32 using d

Re: Fn key -

2020-09-01 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 9/1/20 5:23 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: Well then the next thing I will do is see how the F8 key code changes when Fn is pressed. It did not occur to me, I just expected Fn to be another key code which it seems it is not. /If it will retain the present setting through a reboot I may never have to

Re: Fn key -

2020-09-01 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 2020-09-01 19:13, Samuel Sieb wrote: Does anyone know how to produce "Fn" from a standard desktop keyboard? The Fn key by itself does nothing.  It just changes the code sent by the keyboard when the F8 (or whatever) key is pressed.  The tricky bit is that sometimes it's not a key that ge

Re: dnfdragora not making all updates available

2020-09-01 Thread Temlakos
On 9/1/20 6:55 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 2020-09-02 04:10, Temlakos wrote: >> On 8/29/20 6:33 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >>> On 2020-08-29 21:24, Temlakos wrote: The reform of dnfdragora to put all available updates into groups is not updating everything, and not updating many things it used

Re: Fn key -

2020-09-01 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 9/1/20 11:21 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote: ° I have an old Dell E4310 Latitude portable I've installed Fedora 32 on. it works but I would like to run it with an external keyboard, monitor,and track ball. Those things mostly workexcept that it wants to run the external monitor at the display settin

Re: dnfdragora not making all updates available

2020-09-01 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-09-02 04:10, Temlakos wrote: > On 8/29/20 6:33 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 2020-08-29 21:24, Temlakos wrote: >>> The reform of dnfdragora to put all available updates into groups is not >>> updating everything, and not updating many things it used to update >>> without fail. >> On the leftm

Re: Fn key -

2020-09-01 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 2020-09-01 17:59, Fred Smith wrote: Does anyone know how to produce "Fn" from a standard desktop keyboard? No clue, but isn't there a "monitor preference" application, possibly called "display"? it is used when you have two or more displays to arrange them relative to eachother, to set each

Re: Fn key -

2020-09-01 Thread Fred Smith
On Tue, Sep 01, 2020 at 02:21:21PM -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote: > ° > I have an old Dell E4310 Latitude portable I've installed Fedora 32 > on. it works but I would like to run it with an external keyboard, > monitor,and track ball. Those things mostly workexcept that it wants > to run the external mo

Re: system-upgrade

2020-09-01 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2020-09-01 at 18:40 +0200, François Patte wrote: > Bonjour, > > I have a computer which runs fedora 29, may I use dnf system-upgrade to > upgrade to fedora 32? > > Thank you. > > If not, what is the safer way to upgrade? system-upgrade is expected to work across two versions, but not ne

Re: fedora php package and apache user with nginx

2020-09-01 Thread PGNet Dev
On 9/1/20 12:28 PM, ITwrx wrote: > At roughly a billion $ a quarter in gross > revenue(IIRC), i think Red Hat should double/triple down on Fedora and CentOS it's a head-scratcher sometimes. particularly when you _talk_ to really interested & capable devs in Fedora-land -- many of whom _are_ RH/

Re: dnfdragora not making all updates available

2020-09-01 Thread Temlakos
On 8/29/20 6:33 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 2020-08-29 21:24, Temlakos wrote: >> The reform of dnfdragora to put all available updates into groups is not >> updating everything, and not updating many things it used to update >> without fail. > On the leftmost drop-down box, toggle it from "Groups" t

Re: fedora php package and apache user with nginx

2020-09-01 Thread ITwrx
On 9/1/20 1:31 PM, PGNet Dev wrote: > The devs seem amenable, but are vastly under-resourced IMO. For my money, > better Fedora support ==> more Redhat support contract adoption. > > But that's a corporate Redhat/IBM issue that they've yet to come to terms > with and focus on. Unless you're a b

Re: fedora php package and apache user with nginx

2020-09-01 Thread PGNet Dev
> Thanks for the detailed answer. Very useful. I've come to some of the same > conclusions/solutions. > > I wanted to mention this source of friction since Fedora targets devs/ops > people and they will expect that something as prevalent as a LEMP stack is a > very smooth experience. It shows

Re: Fn key -

2020-09-01 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 1 Sep 2020 14:21:21 -0400 Bob Goodwin wrote: > Does anyone know how to produce "Fn" from a standard desktop keyboard? Odds are good that is a special modifier key that only means something to the innards of the dell laptop. You could try running xev on the dell and see if fn+f8 shows up

Fn key -

2020-09-01 Thread Bob Goodwin
° I have an old Dell E4310 Latitude portable I've installed Fedora 32 on. it works but I would like to run it with an external keyboard, monitor,and track ball. Those things mostly workexcept that it wants to run the external monitor at the display settings for the little 14" screen. In order

Re: fedora php package and apache user with nginx

2020-09-01 Thread ITwrx
On 9/1/20 11:38 AM, PGNet Dev wrote: > for 'fun', install composer from pkgs, and see what comes along for > the ride! no thanks. i think i remember that. :) > > i install the rpms, simply ignore the (admittedly annoying) installed apache > dependencies, and then override the systemd unit, Yes, th

system-upgrade

2020-09-01 Thread François Patte
Bonjour, I have a computer which runs fedora 29, may I use dnf system-upgrade to upgrade to fedora 32? Thank you. If not, what is the safer way to upgrade? -- François Patte UFR de mathématiques et informatique Laboratoire CNRS MAP5, UMR 8145 Université Paris Descartes 45, rue des Saints Père

Re: fedora php package and apache user with nginx

2020-09-01 Thread PGNet Dev
On 9/1/20 8:05 AM, ITwrx wrote: > Am i missing something about how people are using nginx and php > together, or is this just legacy packaging defaults from a time when > there was only apache, which haven't been reconsidered since then? If > the latter, it would be nice if Fedora would reconsider

fedora php package and apache user with nginx

2020-09-01 Thread ITwrx
i was wondering why Fedora (and openSUSE) still use "apache" for the php user (and "nginx" user for nginx) instead of using a generic "http" or "www" user for php, apache and nginx like some other distros? When running php under the "nginx" user, the session gets broken every time php is updated, b