Re: Any better gnome-system-monitor?

2020-10-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2020-10-11 at 17:59 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > Hi All, > >I have been using gnome-system-monitor, but it does > not show CPU usages when CPU's are tied up with > system interrupts. htop does, but it is not GUI based. > >Anyone have a favorite GUI that will give me > a

Re: Any better gnome-system-monitor?

2020-10-12 Thread Richard Shaw
On Sun, Oct 11, 2020 at 7:59 PM ToddAndMargo via users < users@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > Hi All, > >I have been using gnome-system-monitor, but it does > not show CPU usages when CPU's are tied up with > system interrupts. htop does, but it is not GUI based. > >Anyone have a favor

Web camera works intermittently as for recently

2020-10-12 Thread Paul Smith
Dear All, I have a web camera, which has worked perfectly on Fedora 32. However, recently, it only works intermittently on Skype. Intriguily, if I plug it into a different USB port, the web camera works with no problem. Any ideas? Thanks in advance, Paul _

Re: Web camera works intermittently as for recently

2020-10-12 Thread George N. White III
On Mon, 12 Oct 2020 at 12:02, Paul Smith wrote: > Dear All, > > I have a web camera, which has worked perfectly on Fedora 32. However, > recently, it only works intermittently on Skype. Intriguily, if I plug > it into a different USB port, the web camera works with no problem. > Any ideas? > Sky

Re: Web camera works intermittently as for recently

2020-10-12 Thread ITwrx
On 10/12/20 10:01 AM, Paul Smith wrote: > Dear All, > > I have a web camera, which has worked perfectly on Fedora 32. However, > recently, it only works intermittently on Skype. Intriguily, if I plug > it into a different USB port, the web camera works with no problem. > Any ideas? > > Thanks in ad

Re: Any better gnome-system-monitor?

2020-10-12 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 2020-10-12 02:02, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sun, 2020-10-11 at 17:59 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, I have been using gnome-system-monitor, but it does not show CPU usages when CPU's are tied up with system interrupts. htop does, but it is not GUI based. Anyone ha

Re: Any better gnome-system-monitor?

2020-10-12 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 2020-10-12 05:10, Richard Shaw wrote: On Sun, Oct 11, 2020 at 7:59 PM ToddAndMargo via users mailto:users@lists.fedoraproject.org>> wrote: Hi All,    I have been using gnome-system-monitor, but it does not show CPU usages when CPU's are tied up with system interrupts.  hto

Re: Any better gnome-system-monitor?

2020-10-12 Thread Richard Shaw
On Mon, Oct 12, 2020 at 11:23 AM ToddAndMargo via users < users@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > On 2020-10-12 05:10, Richard Shaw wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 11, 2020 at 7:59 PM ToddAndMargo via users > > mailto:users@lists.fedoraproject.org>> > > wrote: > > > > Hi All, > > > > I have bee

Fedora 32 UEFI boot grub frozen

2020-10-12 Thread Richard Shaw
I used my laptop all weekend without issue, I don't recall updating, but this morning when I boot I see grub but no buttons work and the 5s countdown doesn't change. Ideas? Thanks, Richard ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsub

Re: Any better gnome-system-monitor?

2020-10-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2020-10-12 at 09:22 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > On 2020-10-12 05:10, Richard Shaw wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 11, 2020 at 7:59 PM ToddAndMargo via users > > mailto:users@lists.fedoraproject.org>> > > wrote: > > > > Hi All, > > > > I have been using gnome-system-monitor

Re: Web camera works intermittently as for recently

2020-10-12 Thread Paul Smith
Thanks, ITwrx and George. It appears to be related to Thunar (XFCE), according to the logs below. Paul Oct 12 18:33:54 new-host kernel: usb 1-8: USB disconnect, device number 26 Oct 12 18:33:54 new-host kernel: usb 1-8: new high-speed USB device number 27 using xhci_hc

Re: Web camera works intermittently as for recently

2020-10-12 Thread Paul Smith
Actually, it appears to be a kernel issue. Paul On Mon, Oct 12, 2020 at 6:34 PM Paul Smith wrote: > > Thanks, ITwrx and George. It appears to be related to Thunar (XFCE), > according to the logs below. > > Paul > > Oct 12 18:33:54 new-host kernel: usb 1-8: USB discon

Re: Web camera works intermittently as for recently

2020-10-12 Thread ITwrx
On 10/12/20 12:34 PM, Paul Smith wrote: > Oct 12 18:33:54 new-host kernel: uvcvideo: Failed to initialize entity > for entity 6 it looks like the trouble may start further up as noted above. You could always install another Desktop Environment and log in there to rule out LDM, XFCE, etc. Also, i e

Re: Web camera works intermittently as for recently

2020-10-12 Thread Paul Smith
Thanks again, According to the new logs (with a different kernel), the reason is that the kernel keeps disconnecting usb. Maybe a kernel issue. Paul Oct 12 19:03:11 new-host kernel: usb 1-8: USB disconnect, device number 8 Oct 12 19:03:11 new-host kernel: usb 1-8: ne

Re: Any better gnome-system-monitor?

2020-10-12 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Mon, Oct 12, 2020 at 09:22:54AM -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > On 2020-10-12 05:10, Richard Shaw wrote: > > > > It's not a GUI based one but I really like "glances". > > > > Thanks, > > Richard > > I see why you like it. > > It does not give individual cpu load like htop though and >

Re: Web camera works intermittently as for recently

2020-10-12 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 10/12/20 11:36 AM, Paul Smith wrote: According to the new logs (with a different kernel), the reason is that the kernel keeps disconnecting usb. Maybe a kernel issue. Oct 12 19:03:11 new-host kernel: usb 1-8: USB disconnect, device number 8 Oct 12 19:03:11 new-hos

Re: Web camera works intermittently as for recently

2020-10-12 Thread ITwrx
On 10/12/20 1:36 PM, Paul Smith wrote: > According to the new logs (with a different kernel), the reason is > that the kernel keeps disconnecting usb. Maybe a kernel issue. if it was working a few weeks ago (for instance) and you use a kernel that was in use a few weeks ago, and it still doesn't w

Re: Web camera works intermittently as for recently

2020-10-12 Thread ITwrx
On 10/12/20 1:40 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: > That's not the kernel causing the disconnect.  This is a message from > the kernel saying that the device disconnected and then reconnected. Right. Like when the cable is going bad, or the device itself is failing. This exact thing happened to me (many dis

Thunderbird changes to tree view - added icons taking up space

2020-10-12 Thread Robert Moskowitz
I just got around to doing an update and reboot, been running for 40+ days and got some changes in Thunderbird that are rather distracting. In the tree view, there are now icons along with the name.  I did some googling and this is "a new vector style"? Just takes up screen space and distract

Re: Thunderbird changes to tree view - added icons taking up space

2020-10-12 Thread Tim Evans
On 10/12/20 2:47 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I just got around to doing an update and reboot, been running for 40+ days and got some changes in Thunderbird that are rather distracting. In the tree view, there are now icons along with the name.  I did some googling and this is "a new vector sty

Re: Thunderbird changes to tree view - added icons taking up space

2020-10-12 Thread home user
> I just got around to doing an update and reboot, been running for 40+ > days and got some changes in Thunderbird that are rather distracting. > > In the tree view, there are now icons along with the name.  I did some > googling and this is "a new vector style"? > > Just takes up screen space

Re: Fedora 32 UEFI boot grub frozen

2020-10-12 Thread Richard Shaw
I figured out the what, but not the why! Apparently having my Logitech USB dongle inserted locked up grub, but that's a strange issue... Thanks, Richard > ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le.

Re: Fedora 32 UEFI boot grub frozen

2020-10-12 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 10/12/20 12:12 PM, Richard Shaw wrote: I figured out the what, but not the why! Apparently having my Logitech USB dongle inserted locked up grub, but that's a strange issue... You aren't the first to run into that. There are some suggestions around. Try upgrading the firmware on the rec

Re: Fedora 32 UEFI boot grub frozen

2020-10-12 Thread Richard Shaw
On Mon, Oct 12, 2020 at 3:32 PM Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 10/12/20 12:12 PM, Richard Shaw wrote: > > I figured out the what, but not the why! > > > > Apparently having my Logitech USB dongle inserted locked up grub, but > > that's a strange issue... > > You aren't the first to run into that. There

Re: Web camera works intermittently as for recently

2020-10-12 Thread Roger Heflin
Try disabling the mtp-probe udev, that has been causing others usb devices to act up. The mtp-probe rule is badly written, it has an explicit list of devices that are mtp-devices, but even if something is not in that list it still tries to probe certain devices and those devices do not support wha

Re: Web camera works intermittently as for recently

2020-10-12 Thread Paul Smith
Thanks to all who have tried to help me. Let me report the results of all experiments I have done up to now: 1. Tried with all kernels installed on my machine, but with no success; 2. Tried with GNOME instead of XFCE, but again with no success; 3. Tried the web camera plugged in another USB por

Re: Web camera works intermittently as for recently

2020-10-12 Thread ITwrx
On 10/12/20 4:47 PM, Paul Smith wrote: > 3. Tried the web camera plugged in another USB port, and all works fine; > > 4. Tried to use the "problematic" USB port for backuping on an > external disk, and all worked fine. > > I believe that I had not run into the reported problem because only > recent

Re: Thunderbird changes to tree view - added icons taking up space

2020-10-12 Thread Digimer
On 2020-10-12 2:47 p.m., Robert Moskowitz wrote: > I just got around to doing an update and reboot, been running for 40+ > days and got some changes in Thunderbird that are rather distracting. > > In the tree view, there are now icons along with the name.  I did some > googling and this is "a new

Re: Any better gnome-system-monitor?

2020-10-12 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 2020-10-11 17:59, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All,   I have been using gnome-system-monitor, but it does not show CPU usages when CPU's are tied up with system interrupts.  htop does, but it is not GUI based.   Anyone have a favorite GUI that will give me accurate CPU usage? Many tha

Re: Any better gnome-system-monitor?

2020-10-12 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 2020-10-12 17:35, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 2020-10-11 17:59, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All,    I have been using gnome-system-monitor, but it does not show CPU usages when CPU's are tied up with system interrupts.  htop does, but it is not GUI based.    Anyone have a favorite

Re: Web camera works intermittently as for recently

2020-10-12 Thread Tim via users
Samuel Sieb: >> That's not the kernel causing the disconnect. This is a message >> from the kernel saying that the device disconnected and then >> reconnected. ITwrx: > Right. Like when the cable is going bad, or the device itself is > failing. And the connectors... If the connection feels in t