Re: gnu linux update question

2011-06-29 Thread BeartoothHOS
On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 17:38:34 +0100, Bryn M. Reeves wrote: [] > Then you should know to run needs-restarting when it has finished to > check for this yourself. Maybe the OP knows, but in thirteen years of running linux (almost all RedHat or clones) I've never heard of it. And g

Re: Current preupgrade?

2011-06-15 Thread BeartoothHOS
On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 15:25:39 -0500, Ranjan Maitra wrote: [] > It appears, however, that you would like to use XFCE instead of G3. In > that case, why not do a clear install from the F15 LiveCD XFCE spin? I wrote a reply yesterday, which seems to have evaporated into cyberspace

Re: Current preupgrade?

2011-06-13 Thread BeartoothHOS
On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 13:19:11 -0700, suvayu ali wrote: > yum groupinstall xfce Done, with thanks. Stay tuned. -- Beartooth Staffwright, Neo-Redneck Not Quite Clueless Power User I have precious (very precious!) little idea where up is. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject

Current preupgrade?

2011-06-13 Thread BeartoothHOS
Some weeks ago, when preupgrade led or could lead to F15 Beta, I tried it and got royally snarled up. I never did get Gnome3 to boot properly on that machine, and finally installed Scientific Linux, which I also wanted to try. (I like it.) I'm thinking I might want to try F15 a

Re: gnome/XFCE desktop wallpaper problem - it won't stay!

2011-06-13 Thread BeartoothHOS
On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 09:14:09 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 06/13/2011 08:10 AM, BeartoothHOS wrote: >> Do you have it set to show different backgrounds of different >> workspaces? > > I was going to originally, but ended up with having all of them change > backgroun

Re: gnome/XFCE desktop wallpaper problem - it won't stay!

2011-06-13 Thread BeartoothHOS
On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 23:23:35 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 06/12/2011 08:53 AM, BeartoothHOS wrote: >> Did you start wallpapoz and not turn it off? It'll do that. > > I beg to differ. I use wallpapoz on both my desktop and my laptop and > haven't had the slight

Re: gnome/XFCE desktop wallpaper problem - it won't stay!

2011-06-12 Thread BeartoothHOS
On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 06:46:29 -0400, Gary Waters wrote: > Ok, no matter what I do I cannot change my desktop wallpaper and get it > to stay put. After the switch and once I start multitasking it switches > back to the default blue "birds in a tree" background. What the heck am > I doing wrong this

Re: Why on the Earth GNOME Shell hiding Shutdown & Restart options

2011-06-04 Thread BeartoothHOS
On Fri, 03 Jun 2011 15:47:58 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Fri, Jun 03, 2011 at 19:02:28 +, > BeartoothHOS wrote: >> On Thu, 26 May 2011 07:55:30 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> >> Is there a way to do that with a live CD or DVD? Or a respin mea

Re: Why on the Earth GNOME Shell hiding Shutdown & Restart options

2011-06-03 Thread BeartoothHOS
On Thu, 26 May 2011 07:55:30 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > In any case, if you don't like this > behaviour, I maintain a bunch of GNOME Shell Extensions in the Fedora > repo (yum search gnome-shell-extensions -C) and one of them can help > > # yum install gnome-shell-extensions-alterna

Re: Another failure

2011-06-01 Thread BeartoothHOS
On Tue, 31 May 2011 14:03:10 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 05/31/2011 01:50 PM, Beartooth wrote: >> I couldn't face the effort to enable KDE4 or Xfce via ssh again, nor >> the learning curve that would follow. > > I can't speak for anybody else, of course, but I can tell you that when > I migrated

Re: Adblock Plus add-on for FireFox

2011-05-21 Thread BeartoothHOS
On Fri, 20 May 2011 11:39:02 -0700, JD wrote: [] > I have tried to use privoxy along with tor and along with the firefox > add-on torbutton. It has not provided me with the type of security I was > looking for: namely being constantly barraged by the javascripts from > web sites that sc

Re: Adblock Plus add-on for FireFox

2011-05-20 Thread BeartoothHOS
On Tue, 17 May 2011 05:55:22 +, g wrote: > On 05/17/2011 05:44 AM, Jason Turning wrote: >> You might take a look at Privoxy. I run that on my Fedora laptop, >> Mandriva desktop and even my XP work computer. > > privoxy does not show in search at; > > https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefo

Re: preupgrading to fedora 15

2011-05-13 Thread BeartoothHOS
On Fri, 13 May 2011 10:35:11 -0500, Brian Wood wrote: > Hi. Yesterday I tried to preupgrade-cli from fedora 14 to 15 but it > didn't work. When booted it would hang and didn't get to a login > screen. It gave some brief message about not being able to finish > something and that it was giving u

wallpaper sync for workspaces?

2011-05-10 Thread BeartoothHOS
Till very recently, I've always used a single desktop background, varying from PC to PC and keeping all windows less than full-screen (if only a little less). That was a convenient way to keep track of which machine I might be KVM-switched to. Then I decided to try wallpapoz, w

serial port paths for Vbox/XP for GPSs

2011-05-01 Thread BeartoothHOS
I'm in process of installing XP under VirtualBox on Fedora 14 Linux, after which I'll install MapSource, TopoUS2008, and others under XP, hoping to be able to get my Etrexes and Rinos to talk to the software. I do have a physical serial port on the machine; but I don't see what path to

Re: So where are my workspaces??

2011-04-29 Thread BeartoothHOS
On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 14:38:21 +, Beartooth wrote: >> On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 4:31 PM, I Beartooth >> wrote: > OK, I jumped through the hoops, and have just confirmed; but my > newsreader didn't save a copy of my post. Any hope there's still one > floating around fedoraproject somewhere

Re: So where are my workspaces??

2011-04-29 Thread BeartoothHOS
On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 21:37:20 +, Andre Robatino wrote: > Beartooth comcast.net> writes: > >> Nope, alas! I get a picture of a sad face on a screen, telling me >> "Oh no, something has gone wrong." [] >> > If you didn't have the terminal, the bug reports indicate how to fix >> > thin

Re: So where are my workspaces??

2011-04-29 Thread BeartoothHOS
On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 00:50:05 -0400, Chris Kloiber wrote: > I run 8 workspaces, 4 across, 2 high. Email on screen 4 (upper right) > personal stuff on 8 (lower right) and up to 6 different work tickets on > the others. It's important for me to directly access any of them with a > click on the panel

Home virtual topo map advice?

2011-04-21 Thread BeartoothHOS
I have four legacy suites of map software (Garmin and three others that I care less about) and four different GPSs (all Garmin), with a dozen years' accumulation of waypoints, routes, etc. Wine under Fedora usually (not always, for some reason) lets me install and run the Garmi

boot messages : say it ain't so

2010-07-09 Thread BeartoothHOS
Several machines have been showing lines like these : Press 'I' to enter interactive startup. Starting udev: udevd[405]: BUS= will be removed in a future udev version, please use SUBSYSTEM= to match the event device, or SUBSYSTEMS= to match a parent device, in /etc/udev

Re: gpk-update-viewer vs. yum

2010-04-20 Thread BeartoothHOS
On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 16:14:31 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Fri, 2010-04-16 at 18:51 +, BeartoothHOS wrote: >> Is it just me?? [] > Sounds like the old "interface not managed by NetworkManager" trick. > Some Gnome apps rely on NM

gpk-update-viewer vs. yum

2010-04-16 Thread BeartoothHOS
Is it just me?? I've noticed, on several machines (PC, laptop, netbook) that if the machine has no connection, or thinks it has none, the gpk function claims there are no updates; but if I doubt that and run yum update, it may immediately get over a hundred -- or at least repo

Rearrange users??

2010-04-13 Thread BeartoothHOS
I keep a loaner laptop for houseguests, and keep their accounts set to /sbin/nologin except when they're here. The last pair won't be back for another year, and the next pair will arrive this month. I'd like to put their usernames above the last pair's instead of below on the l

Re: F12 Bug 540584 recrudesces -- Second Update : Surprise!

2010-04-11 Thread BeartoothHOS
On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 20:01:30 +, BeartoothHOS wrote: On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 13:58:53 +, I Beartooth wrote: > [] > I've now established that all three machines run fine while out > from behind the KVM switch, as expected. > > Next I'll try reboo

Re: F12 Bug 540584 recrudesces -- Update

2010-04-11 Thread BeartoothHOS
On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 13:58:53 +, I Beartooth wrote: [] > Yesterday having been a large occasion here, I have not yet tried > to ssh into a machine behind the switch from one not behind it. Even > before that, I want to make sure all machines still work normally when > not behin

F12 Bug 540584 recrudesces

2010-04-11 Thread BeartoothHOS
RedHat Bugzilla Bug 540584 is suddenly biting again, harder than ever, since yesterday's PackageKit update on F12. Now, if behind the Trendnet TK-407 USB KVM switch, none of the three machines sees keyboard, mouse, nor even a login display. (I found a good home for the fourth m

Re: PS Re: What is /usr/share/locale?

2010-03-29 Thread BeartoothHOS
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 10:58:28 -0700, jack craig wrote: > what do the settings under preferences->mouse look like? Right-handed, single-click > also, i am curious where you found the omega distro? http://omega.dgplug.org/ -- Beartooth Staffwright, Neo-Redneck Not Quite Clueless Power U

"open" defaulting to K3B

2010-03-29 Thread BeartoothHOS
In F12, lots of things default to K3B to be opened with, even though K3B can't open them. And I don't get the option to "open with" on most of them, either. I did manage to get into the settings to configure K3B, but saw nothing there that would explain why it pushes itself for

Re: PS Re: What is /usr/share/locale?

2010-03-29 Thread BeartoothHOS
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 07:05:17 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 03/29/2010 06:15 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> It might be easier to do >> # yum -v grouplist >> # yum install @tibetan-support >> For a lot of groups, the shorter names are far less clumsier to type. > Well, you could use "copy & pa

PS Re: What is /usr/share/locale?

2010-03-28 Thread BeartoothHOS
On Sun, 28 Mar 2010 16:43:11 +, BeartoothHOS wrote: > On Sun, 28 Mar 2010 23:15:43 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: >> Yes, basically it does have to do with various language and regional >> support. >> >> But, of course, you shouldn't go about blindly deleting stuf

Re: What is /usr/share/locale?

2010-03-28 Thread BeartoothHOS
On Sun, 28 Mar 2010 09:38:35 -0700, suvayu ali wrote: [] > This might be useful. :) > The pictures are certainly enticing, especially as compared with what baobab gives me; but the links are way beyond me -

Re: What is /usr/share/locale?

2010-03-28 Thread BeartoothHOS
On Sun, 28 Mar 2010 23:15:43 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 03/28/2010 10:49 PM, BeartoothHOS wrote: >> I have an ASUS EeePC 701 (the earliest smallest slowest, afaik), [] >> >> If "locale" does mean languages, meseems I ought to be able to do

What is /usr/share/locale?

2010-03-28 Thread BeartoothHOS
I have an ASUS EeePC 701 (the earliest smallest slowest, afaik), currently running Omega (Fedora for netbooks). I'm looking to remove everything I can, to make space for my own stuff. (I've long since added a memory card.) "locale" in other apps seems often to mean languages --

Re: Sorbet on Fedora's future

2010-03-23 Thread BeartoothHOS
On Mon, 22 Mar 2010 17:38:03 -0400, Marcel Rieux wrote: >> Are you saying that if you run Linux, and then re-boot, and enter the >> BIOS, it is changed in some way? > I would think this is exactly what I said. ... and, of course, it never occurs to you that all the rest of us might be

Re: KVM and screen savers

2010-03-11 Thread BeartoothHOS
On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:44:15 -0500, William Henry wrote: > On my F12 laptop I experience the following issue: > > If my cursor is in a KVM instance (RHEL 5) and I leave the machine for a > while the Fedora screen saver with lock does not kick in. That is until > I press CTRL-ALT to take focus fr

icons vs. messages in gpk-update-viewer??

2010-03-10 Thread BeartoothHOS
The last couple batches of updates have shown lots of apps with the little round gray power button icon, like the one you click to shut down, reboot, etc. And the initial box interprets it as meaning restart (which seems generally to be spreading as a substitute for reboot). Bu

F12 on one machine bollixed, but BAD

2010-02-15 Thread BeartoothHOS
My wife got an obnoxious popup on her machine, couldn't get rid of it, and called me downstairs. I got rid of it in a trice -- and then dove heavily into a trap. She complained also of the cursor giving trouble -- I had noticed that it always appeared somewhat to the right of w

Re: F12 failing with KVM switches

2010-01-17 Thread BeartoothHOS
On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 19:20:45 +, BeartoothHOS wrote: > I normally run four PCs behind a KVM switch. The same ones worked fine > for years, with several Fedora releases, and three or four switches as > those wore out. > > Sometime since I installed F12, I began seeing a n

abrt making no sense

2010-01-17 Thread BeartoothHOS
It alerts me, and shows a bug unreported. I tell it to report. It churns through seventy downloads, or so it says. When it thinks it's ready, I fill out its question as to what I was doing, and tell it to go. It gives me a box, labelled Report Done, but containing two

F12 failing with KVM switches

2010-01-16 Thread BeartoothHOS
I normally run four PCs behind a KVM switch. The same ones worked fine for years, with several Fedora releases, and three or four switches as those wore out. Sometime since I installed F12, I began seeing a nasty trick. Any one machine works fine, so long as you stay on it; but

Re: Fedora mailing list migration complete!

2010-01-10 Thread BeartoothHOS
> On 01/10/2010 04:38 AM, Jon Stanley wrote: >> I'm happy to announce that the Fedora mailing list migration to Fedora >> infrastructure has been completed! Many thanks to all involved in this > > Thanks for your efforts (all 17 hours today!) ... it works great and > I'm happy to report the turn