lee writes:
David Benfell writes:
I think mainly that you don't need logrotate. journald takes care of it
automatically.
Well, with logrotate, you can have to logs mailed to you. Can journald
do that, too?
Couldn't tell you. I don't understand the man page well enough. (
, I dare say, you
ever will.
'Linux' most certainly does not hate him. Many of us recognize a
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, this sounds like a bug and a rather nasty one at that. Second, do
other terminal emulators exhibit this behavior?
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lee writes:
David Benfell writes:
Why should it be seen separately? Poorly chosen terms is a feature of
systemd like any other it may have, and this feature leads straightaway
to unexpected and undesired results when used. That the authors even
deny fixing it is ... well, I'm not sur
guess the concept of 'mask' is as in to disguise, as in to hide. For me,
that's two steps of abstraction and I don't normally infer the second from
the first. So it throws me too.
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appears that even though they have taken their vote, and chosen
systemd, they have not yet developed service files for all their packages
(neither has Fedora), and that they will support alternatives:
https://lists.debian.org/debian-ctte/2014/02/msg00281.html
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poma writes:
For you Roquefort will always be just a fungus.
It's beyond your comprehension.
Fascinating.
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What is the "sediment" in the thread context?
I suspect the word that was meant here is 'sentiment'.
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when
told to enable a service (which is to say, a service file in
/etc/systemd/system will supercede one in /usr/lib/systemd/system at the
time of an enable command).
I know that /etc/systemd/system continues to work. I've been using it.
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remarked on their behavior--and on
some rather blatant double standards.
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is a very loud voice in every distribution
that adopts systemd (and, for that matter, pulseaudio). To not be allowed
to challenge that voice, just because it is allegedly not present, is to
ignore that which *is* present.
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Bill Oliver writes:
On Sun, 6 Jul 2014, David Benfell wrote:
So in your view, I have no right to object to his behavior but you have a right
to object to my objection?
Something ain't right there.
Some things are above criticism. It's important that you know your place.
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On July 6, 2014 3:16:43 PM PDT, Olav Vitters wrote:
>On Sun, Jul 06, 2014 at 02:23:44PM -0700, David Benfell wrote:
>> Olav Vitters writes:
>>
>> >On Sun, Jul 06, 2014 at 01:34:24PM -0700, David Benfell wrote:
>>
link back
into /etc. I've never paid enough attention to the file hierarchy standard
to be able to say what is appropriate here.
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Sam Varshavchik writes:
David Benfell writes:
Systemd needs to be a vast improvement to justify this. And it seems that
not everyone even agrees that it's an improvement at all.
Here's something that I can't figure out: with this entire thread in mind,
why is all of thi
Olav Vitters writes:
On Sun, Jul 06, 2014 at 01:34:24PM -0700, David Benfell wrote:
Poettering reminds me of a teenager who thinks the world would be
perfect if everybody just did things his (gender-biased language
*might* be appropriate here) way. The difference is that
distributions are
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n improvement at all.
I really prefer using grep and less on a plain text log file that gets
rotated so it is of manageable length. It's simple. It works. It's
reliable. Which is just what I need when something is broken.
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You can propose your terminology.
You're asking him to do Poettering's technical writing when he isn't even
sure he understands Poettering correctly.
Not only is that an imposition, it's an unfair one.
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uot;file?" And if the documentation really means files
or pipes or devices, then why not say "files or pipes or devices?"
This kind of verbiage simply adds an additional layer of abstraction that
removes the text ever farther from whatever it's talking about and reduces
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I think mainly that you don't need logrotate. journald takes care of it
automatically.
On July 6, 2014 12:52:24 AM MST, lee wrote:
>Kevin Fenzi writes:
>
>> output. With systemd/journald, ALL output is saved and easy to query.
>
>
>How do you que
with this operation is that one must also accept
the removal of a meta-package. This is harmless.
On July 6, 2014 12:48:04 AM MST, lee wrote:
>David Benfell writes:
>
>> Kevin Fenzi writes:
>> pulseaudio, which I leave alone right up to the moment I have
>> problems--any proble
in of control possible (and, for my
purposes, this doesn't matter).
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Kevin Fenzi writes:
On Sat, 05 Jul 2014 18:10:45 -0700
David Benfell wrote:
Were you tying your services to specific IP addresses?
I have ten IP addresses, one for each of several domains and subdomains. At
the time I made this decision, SNI didn't work, at least for me, and from
w
Ed Greshko writes:
Did you just fix your problem or did you also bugzilla it?
I was having trouble getting into bugzilla and set it aside. But I've
revisited this: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1116539
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ion, using network-
online.target, is the same.
The issue is real.
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David Benfell writes:
Hi all,
This is still going awry
[root@munich]/home/benfell# systemctl status postfix
postfix.service - Postfix Mail Transport Agent
Loaded: loaded (/etc/systemd/system/postfix.service; enabled)
Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since Wed 2014-07-02 05:00:31
ailed | grep "failed"
I'll finish this tomorrow after it fails again (I reboot daily to limit the
impact of memory leaks).
I do dimly recall that there was a cleaner way to do this. But I'm
completely failing to find what it is.
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per the exchange yesterday.
I'm sure glad I have a secondary server for both mail and DNS, because nsd
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run systemctl --failed.
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Rick Stevens writes:
On 07/01/2014 01:13 PM, David Benfell issued this missive:
Hi all,
I have no idea why this might be happening. I've looked at the systemd
control file for postfix and compared it to dovecot's. Both want the
network.target before starting.
"want" is a
David Benfell writes:
The difference is that dovecot starts correctly. Postfix does not. The
problem has only appeared since Saturday, when I probably did a yum
update.
I have since discovered that nsd also failed to start and that ejabberd
apparently failed to start correctly--pidgin on my
e Saturday, when I probably did a yum
update.
Postfix issues an error from one of the pre-commands having to do with
the aliases database saying its network interface (and it duly lists
the IPv4 address) doesn't exist. Starting postfix manually later
works.
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Ian Malone writes:
On 20 May 2014 04:50, David Benfell wrote:
But even
so, unless you have a specialized need for Pulseaudio, which apparently may
include very high-end audiophile applications, removing it seems generally
harmless.
High end audiophile applications like having more than one
right. Sabayon
and Linux Mint seem, in my experience, to be two that have done so. But
even so, unless you have a specialized need for Pulseaudio, which
apparently may include very high-end audiophile applications, removing it
seems generally harmless.
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n GPT, not that
> GPT is a requirement. Windows 7 installs just fine on a disk with only a
> legacy MBR partition table.
>
Yes, that's right. I was responding to a claim that Windows couldn't
be installed on GPT. Out of context, however, the statement appears
entirely wron
: /etc/httpd/modules/mod_ssl.so:
undefined symbol: unixd_config
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