Re: [Fedora 23] Installing KDE Plasma as a second Desktop Environment! [bug]

2015-11-25 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/25/2015 10:11 AM, Rick Stevens wrote: I find lightdm to be pretty good and doesn't spawn off all the junk that gdm does. I mean, if I'm not using gnome, why the hell does gdm insist on spawning a resource-hogging gnome-shell when the beblistered thing is never going to be used? After I

Re: [Fedora 23] Installing KDE Plasma as a second Desktop Environment! [bug]

2015-11-25 Thread Rick Stevens
On 11/24/2015 07:17 PM, Jon LaBadie wrote: On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 04:19:02PM +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Tue, 2015-11-24 at 09:41 +, Andrew R Paterson wrote: ... most people assume that in order to change DE youi have to change DM! The "slightly different capabilities" you

Re: [Fedora 23] Installing KDE Plasma as a second Desktop Environment! [bug]

2015-11-24 Thread Mihuleac Sergiu
Thanks for the info. So when i've installed kde with command $ dnf groupinstall "KDE Plasma Workspaces", i couldn't use it, but after i've removed it i've installed like this $ dnf install @kde-desktop Then all worked well, the idea came from here https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/KDE I discovered

Re: [Fedora 23] Installing KDE Plasma as a second Desktop Environment! [bug]

2015-11-24 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 04:19:02PM +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Tue, 2015-11-24 at 09:41 +, Andrew R Paterson wrote: > > ... most people assume that in order to change DE youi have to change DM! > > The "slightly different capabilities" you describe are so slight as > > make the

Re: [Fedora 23] Installing KDE Plasma as a second Desktop Environment! [bug]

2015-11-24 Thread Bill Oliver
On Mon, 23 Nov 2015, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: I do it quite often. It does work, but you may find that some things depend on which Desktop *Manager* you use (gdm, kdm, sddm, ...) as they don't all support each other equally well. The specific manager you're running (probably gdm for you)

Re: [Fedora 23] Installing KDE Plasma as a second Desktop Environment! [bug]

2015-11-24 Thread Sudhir Khanger
On Tuesday 24 Nov 2015 10:37:48 PM you wrote: > That page seems to suggest otherwise, that you've got to do an extra > step in the command line. That requires extra knowledge than just > installing another desktop. So they're in the same boat as us. I think the command is triggered

Re: [Fedora 23] Installing KDE Plasma as a second Desktop Environment! [bug]

2015-11-24 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2015-11-24 at 09:41 +, Andrew R Paterson wrote: > On Tuesday 24 November 2015 00:07:00 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Mon, 2015-11-23 at 19:23 +, Andrew R Paterson wrote: > > > I must be missing the point here, but I have always found that > > > after > > > installing multiple

Re: [Fedora 23] Installing KDE Plasma as a second Desktop Environment! [bug]

2015-11-24 Thread Andrew R Paterson
On Tuesday 24 November 2015 00:07:00 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Mon, 2015-11-23 at 19:23 +, Andrew R Paterson wrote: > > I must be missing the point here, but I have always found that after > > installing multiple desktops and leaving gdm as the login manager, > > when you > > are asked

Re: [Fedora 23] Installing KDE Plasma as a second Desktop Environment! [bug]

2015-11-23 Thread Andrew R Paterson
On Tuesday 24 November 2015 02:27:58 Tim wrote: > Tim: > >> If I install two or more different desktops, which display manager > >> should it enable by default, then? Does it ask you that question? > > Allegedly, on or about 23 November 2015, Paul Cartwright sent: > > I switched from GDM to

Re: [Fedora 23] Installing KDE Plasma as a second Desktop Environment! [bug]

2015-11-23 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2015-11-23 at 12:45 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > 1.  Make sure the ConsoleKit package is installed.  If not, install > it. Does ConsoleKit still exist in F23? poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options:

Re: [Fedora 23] Installing KDE Plasma as a second Desktop Environment! [bug]

2015-11-23 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/23/15 19:48, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Mon, 2015-11-23 at 12:45 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: >> 1. Make sure the ConsoleKit package is installed. If not, install >> it. > Does ConsoleKit still exist in F23? > > Surprise, surprise. Looks like not I know that a simple "startx"

Re: [Fedora 23] Installing KDE Plasma as a second Desktop Environment! [bug]

2015-11-23 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2015-11-23 at 00:38 +0200, Mihuleac Sergiu wrote: > What happened is that when I chose to log into `KDE` my screens > changes > and the Desktop Background appears the just in a few second I'm back > to > the log in screen. No matter how many restarts or how many times i > try > the result

Re: [Fedora 23] Installing KDE Plasma as a second Desktop Environment! [bug]

2015-11-23 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2015-11-23 at 20:27 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > > On 11/23/15 19:48, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Mon, 2015-11-23 at 12:45 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > > > 1.  Make sure the ConsoleKit package is installed.  If not, > > > install > > > it. > > Does ConsoleKit still exist in F23? > > >

Re: [Fedora 23] Installing KDE Plasma as a second Desktop Environment! [bug]

2015-11-23 Thread Sudhir Khanger
On Monday 23 Nov 2015 11:54:51 AM Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > The specific manager you're > running (probably gdm for you) doesn't change just because you install > a new Desktop *Environment* but you can do it manually. Ubuntu offers such convenience when installing multiple display manager as

Re: [Fedora 23] Installing KDE Plasma as a second Desktop Environment! [bug]

2015-11-23 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/23/15 21:12, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Mon, 2015-11-23 at 20:27 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 11/23/15 19:48, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >>> On Mon, 2015-11-23 at 12:45 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: 1. Make sure the ConsoleKit package is installed. If not, install it.

Re: [Fedora 23] Installing KDE Plasma as a second Desktop Environment! [bug]

2015-11-23 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/24/15 00:29, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > What is needed is an easier way for the average user to be able to > switch DMs without editing obscure config files. Sometimes I wonder about how/if terminology is used/changed/confused. Isn't a DM (Display Manager) the software supplying the

Re: [Fedora 23] Installing KDE Plasma as a second Desktop Environment! [bug]

2015-11-23 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2015-11-23 at 19:23 +, Andrew R Paterson wrote: > I must be missing the point here, but I have always found that after > installing multiple desktops and leaving gdm as the login manager, > when you > are asked for the password on login there is a little gear cog icon > which if >

Re: [Fedora 23] Installing KDE Plasma as a second Desktop Environment! [bug]

2015-11-23 Thread P. Gueckel
Mihuleac Sergiu wrote: > Hi! > == > > I have Fedora 23 installed... with the default Gnome 3 Desktop Environment. I was thinking of trying > multiple Desktop Environments, so... > > I've installed `KDE` using `dnf groupinstall "KDE Plasma > Workspaces"` > > * What is your experience in

Re: [Fedora 23] Installing KDE Plasma as a second Desktop Environment! [bug]

2015-11-23 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2015-11-24 at 05:55 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 11/24/15 00:29, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > What is needed is an easier way for the average user to be able to > > switch DMs without editing obscure config files. > > Sometimes I wonder about how/if terminology is

Re: [Fedora 23] Installing KDE Plasma as a second Desktop Environment! [bug]

2015-11-23 Thread Tim
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >> The specific manager you're running (probably gdm for you) doesn't change >> just because you install a new Desktop *Environment* but you can do >> it manually. Sudhir Khanger: > Ubuntu offers such convenience when installing multiple display manager as > part of

Re: [Fedora 23] Installing KDE Plasma as a second Desktop Environment! [bug]

2015-11-23 Thread Paul Cartwright
I switched from GDM to lightdm because I use mate and enlightenment. They seem to like lightdm better.. It is easy to switch between them using systemctl . Enable/disable.. I found the answer by googling "how-to change GDM to lightdm" .. Sent from my iPad > On Nov 23, 2015, at 10:11 AM, Tim

Re: [Fedora 23] Installing KDE Plasma as a second Desktop Environment! [bug]

2015-11-23 Thread Tim
Tim: >> If I install two or more different desktops, which display manager >> should it enable by default, then? Does it ask you that question? Allegedly, on or about 23 November 2015, Paul Cartwright sent: > I switched from GDM to lightdm because I use mate and enlightenment. > They seem to

Re: [Fedora 23] Installing KDE Plasma as a second Desktop Environment! [bug]

2015-11-23 Thread Sudhir Khanger
On Tuesday 24 Nov 2015 1:41:31 AM Tim wrote: > If I install two or more different desktops, which display manager > should it enable by default, then? Does it ask you that question? Yes, it does. http://www.webupd8.org/2011/07/how-to-switch-between-gdm-lightdm-or.html

Re: [Fedora 23] Installing KDE Plasma as a second Desktop Environment! [bug]

2015-11-23 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2015-11-23 at 10:18 -0500, Paul Cartwright wrote: > I switched from GDM to lightdm because I use mate and enlightenment. > They seem to like lightdm better.. It is easy to switch between them > using systemctl . Enable/disable.. I found the answer by googling > "how-to change GDM to

Re: [Fedora 23] Installing KDE Plasma as a second Desktop Environment! [bug]

2015-11-23 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2015-11-23 at 19:25 +0530, Sudhir Khanger wrote: > On Monday 23 Nov 2015 11:54:51 AM Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > The specific manager you're > > running (probably gdm for you) doesn't change just because you > > install > > a new Desktop *Environment* but you can do it manually. > >

Re: [Fedora 23] Installing KDE Plasma as a second Desktop Environment! [bug]

2015-11-23 Thread Timothy Murphy
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > What is needed is an easier way for the average user to be able to > switch DMs without editing obscure config files. I see I have DESKTOP="KDE" DISPLAYMANAGER="KDE" in /etc/etc/sysconfig/desktop (after installing Fedora-23/KDE from a LiveUSB stick). That

Re: [Fedora 23] Installing KDE Plasma as a second Desktop Environment! [bug]

2015-11-23 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2015-11-23 at 16:43 +, Timothy Murphy wrote: > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > What is needed is an easier way for the average user to be able to > > switch DMs without editing obscure config files. > > I see I have >   DESKTOP="KDE" >   DISPLAYMANAGER="KDE" > in

[Fedora 23] Installing KDE Plasma as a second Desktop Environment! [bug]

2015-11-22 Thread Mihuleac Sergiu
Hi! == I have Fedora 23 installed on a [Lenovo E540](http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/e-series/e540/#tab-tech_specs) with the default Gnome 3 Desktop Environment. I was thinking of trying multiple Desktop Environments, so that I might see what are thee new breakthroughs. Basically

Re: [Fedora 23] Installing KDE Plasma as a second Desktop Environment! [bug]

2015-11-22 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/23/15 06:38, Mihuleac Sergiu wrote: > Hi! > == > > I have Fedora 23 installed on a [Lenovo > E540](http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/e-series/e540/#tab-tech_specs) > with the default Gnome 3 Desktop Environment. I was thinking of trying > multiple Desktop Environments, so that I